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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS
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StreetsAhead
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See, now I don't mind returning stages when it's not the only stage representing a franchise. Variety is the spice of life.
Although the part about not wanting to use specific areas from Fire Emblem games because of height smells like some bs. Just add random floating platforms. Works for most stages.
Edit: the stage looks better, somehow, to me than it did in Brawl, but it could just be that I've been staring at the 3DS graphics for too long.
Although the part about not wanting to use specific areas from Fire Emblem games because of height smells like some bs. Just add random floating platforms. Works for most stages.
Edit: the stage looks better, somehow, to me than it did in Brawl, but it could just be that I've been staring at the 3DS graphics for too long.
Jawmuncher
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It is better but the 3DS part still applies.
So much on that the last 2 weeks I forgot what the WiiU version even looked like.
StreetsAhead
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Glad it's not just me. Halberd looked the same, though, no?
PotD is up
Here is a comparison from Dolphin (Project M)
Looks like they updated the textures for the main stage and castle. They are much better in the Wii U PoTD. Lighting might have also been improved.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I always thought Reset Bomb 1 looked familiar.
Oh fuck yeah, Hype for the U version suddenly got a much appreciated shot. The stage looks so damn good...Must be that I've been seeing so much of the 3DS version lately, but I could swear they upgraded it somehow; curiously, the Halberd looked identical back in the Direct. Could it be that they've polished returning stages since? Hope so.
At any rate, this is one of my favorite stages in Brawl, so I'm pleased as punch with its return. Definitely prefer it to Colosseum, which is one of the most boring stages in the series as far as I'm concerned...If it didn't have walk-offs, if the moving platforms weren't so easy to ignore and added nothing, if it had a more exciting background (FE favorites in the crowd, a lá the Animal Crossing stage?), now we'd be talking. Part of me hopes for another new FE stage, but I know having three in total is far from plausible. Oh well, should have a fun Final Destination mode.
And speaking of Final Destination mode, funny to think Castle Siege sort of already included it; its third section fits the bill nicely. Wonder if it'll have a FD version for each section this time around, with the same platform and just the backgrounds changing.
At any rate, this is one of my favorite stages in Brawl, so I'm pleased as punch with its return. Definitely prefer it to Colosseum, which is one of the most boring stages in the series as far as I'm concerned...If it didn't have walk-offs, if the moving platforms weren't so easy to ignore and added nothing, if it had a more exciting background (FE favorites in the crowd, a lá the Animal Crossing stage?), now we'd be talking. Part of me hopes for another new FE stage, but I know having three in total is far from plausible. Oh well, should have a fun Final Destination mode.
And speaking of Final Destination mode, funny to think Castle Siege sort of already included it; its third section fits the bill nicely. Wonder if it'll have a FD version for each section this time around, with the same platform and just the backgrounds changing.
OricWindstar
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Very cool stage to bring back! Love it.
Looking at them side-by-side, there's definitely an improvement. I wonder why Castle Siege got that treatment and not Halberd...perhaps they had higher-quality assets they were unable to utilise in Brawl lying around, that could have been inserted into this version of the stage with minimal effort?
Lighting is clearly improved. Geometry looks a little different too. I think they rebuilt at least the stage part.
OricWindstar
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At least with the floor on the main platform, it's been cleaned up quite a bit.
EDIT: Haha, I quoted too early!
uncleniccius
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Just noticed that the official Gamecube controllers are listed on Amazon, in Red Mario, White Yoshi and Pink Peach flavours.
Release date 14th November, which is a Friday when games are released in the UK. Fingers crossed that could be the release date for the game too.
I fell for this at first, and posted it here - but look at the C stick.. it isn't official. Its third party.
QuixoticNeutral
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Sakurai said:
Fire Emblem content is always welcome, but one wonders what the hypothetical candidates for stages specific to a single game would be, as so many maps in the series follow the same pattern of locales. Grima's back in Awakening comes to mind, but it looks as though Pilotwings and Star Fox already satisfy the quota of inflight stages, and I don't mind the return of one of the finest stages in Brawl.
It's not even a gamecube controller. Gamecube controlelr doesn't have a + and - button
Grima's Back would be the coolest option, but Sakurai might consider it a spoiler.
I would also have accepted The Mila Tree, or even Grima's Remains. The Dragon's Table could also be interesting. If you wanted to do an actual iconic castle siege, The Future Past would have been a great choice.
Jawmuncher
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If I can get new pork city in the WiiU version I'll already be happy with the stage selection.
Cosmic Dreams
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To be fair, if we were to compare both of their supports from their games, I have to say, I think male robin is much more likeable as a person. female robin is cool too though but i'll have to give it to the dude.
Female Robin is more interesting and has more personality.
Male Robin is probably canon in the same way that SumiaxChrom is canon.
You know what's bad? Since the 3DS already has Jungle Japes, Wii U is gonna have either Rumble Falls or 75m as its returning DK stage...Dislike both stages to the point where I'd rather have Jungle Japes repeated on the U. I'd kill for the other DK Melee stage, but that's not feasible...
Lunchbillion
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That didn't stop him from including Zelda + Sheik, but I find myself agreeing with you.
Fire Emblem Awakening spoiler:
It would be hilarously inappropriate for them to make a stage based on the cliff Emmeryn commits suicide from
Any notions of a single unbreakable canon should have died as soon as the Outrealms were introduced. I hope we can recruit four Morgans from different universes as bonus units in the next FE.
Cosmic Dreams
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Why so? Even Tiki likes Male Robin more than Female Robin. lol
Female Robin seems like the kind of girl that's level headed but can get annoyed pretty easily.
I'd like a new stage, too. I'm surprised we still haven't seen a Returns stage at all.
I'll have to try Female Robin once I go back to Awakening, I thought each gender's convos were the same, sans S options where applicable.
Chrom reeeeeaally shows a bit too much affection toward his "friend" Robin, you'd think female Robin is the intended canon.
Cosmic Dreams
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There's differences here and there. The support with Tiki or Virion comes to mind but I think there's more. Much more with the 2nd gen kids too.
Here's a PoTD with Halberd
Here's Halberd on Dolphin (Project M)
So far I think the lighting is different (better). That's all that is noticeable to me.
Fake Edit:
Turns out the main platform is actually improved compared to Brawl.
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Brawl
Jawmuncher
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I would kill for the return of this stage
Still the best DK stage.
Jungle Japes pales in comparison.
I would kill for the return of this stage
Unfortunately, that would require an actual conversion. I wouldn't expect the return of any 64 or Melee stage not appearing in Brawl, but there may be a slight possibility for some to appear as DLC. Even if they only got similar touchups to Castle Siege, stages like Fountain of Dreams or Metal Cavern could look pretty good on the Wii U version.
I would kill for the return of this stage
Funnily enough, if the numerous 3DS playlists aren't lying, its music plays on the 3DS' Jungle Japes. Would love it back too.
I'm convinced it'll happen. Otherwise that'd mean no new DK stage in either installment of Smash 4 AT ALL; I guarantee we'll have one new DK stage at least.
Jawmuncher
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If removing Lucas has any potential positive at all, it's that it may make New Pork City less likely to return, given how it repped a game in the series that lost its playable character.
The DK options -are- a cause for concern, though :/
Benzychenz
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There's no way we won't get one new DK stage. Even Metroid got that much.
At least New Pork City would look good as an Omega stage. Though it'd be unforgivable to prioritise it over Onett, especially since Lucas will never return.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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I want ALL of the N64 stages to come back. I'd be willing to sacrifice the Mushroom Kingdom stage though. Just let me hop along Hyrule Castle and throw people into Charmander's face. That's all I want.
Stop that.
Stop that.
Something like this would be cool for Dreamland 64 if it were to return with a whole new modern look.
Though I would expect an official one to look a lot better.
Jawmuncher
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No love for NPC. So sad.
Yeah...and I wouldn't be surprised if Metroid gets two new stages, was one of the four franchises in Brawl that had multiple new ones. Come on, Prime representation...
A scary point in New Pork City's favor is that, with The Ultimate Chimera, it already has an in-built boss, a feature which Sakurai considered notable enough to give it its own section in the Direct. Crossing my fingers for Onett, though!
Who else thinks that Mario's pipes will be an usable item in Stage Builder this time around?
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