IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Sorry, that channel isn't deaf friendly for me, so you have to explain to me in texts.
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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS
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Sorry, that channel isn't deaf friendly for me, so you have to explain to me in texts.
There's 3 sets of Star Fox voice actors, 1 set from Adventures, 1 from Assault, & 1 from SF643D.
Hero of Legend
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Any idea if Jigglypuff still has Rachael Lillis' voice?
KLatin Scelus
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And seriously, what's with Yoshi's placement?
I know it's a minor thing, but my god, it's annoying.
Yes I'm aware he's a part of the Mario Universe, but why does he have his own icon then?
theprodigy
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I think they stopped caring this time around.
The Captain
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The matching apartment pic was credible because it was a picture. Text leaks are inherently less credible than picture leaks.
It depends on the stage that's confirmed. If it's something like a stage from Nintendo Land I don't think it would be any more credible than it already is. However, if we get one of those really out-of-left-field stages confirmed, it will get more credible.
No, I just think this leak is too good to be true. Five fan requested characters? 55 stages? It's too much.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Whoops, meant OT3 and no that wasent the eye patch one, it was something far darker that we're choosing to forget now
Didn't know you were deaf D:
I wanted to have something crap that I could move freely ... that roster program don't have a "replace" or "line" moving tool like photoshop xD
If this is any chance .. I would say that Chorus Men has the least chance of being playable, for the fact that he is 3 characters AND that he is where the mii fighters should be.
The GameXplain dude recorded the treehouse stream and saw that there are Star Fox Assault and Star Fox 64 3D voice actors in the 3ds credits.
No Sign of the Xenoblade enemy, so it is not listing the credits to both version, so he thinks that linking will give the 3ds AT LEAST some of the stages, wich would use the arrow graphic that was found
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Ah sorry about that! Anyways, looks like Platy covered it pretty well =)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
balladofwindfishes
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Smash 64 had 9
Melee had 29 stages, adding 20 from 64's total
Brawl had 41 stages, adding 12 from Melee's total
Smash 4 could have 55 and add 14 from Brawl, which looking at past additions isn't that crazy, especially when a number of those additions come from retro stages.
Especially when Smash 4's stages can borrow heavily from the source material (like Skyloft, Garden of Hope and Pyrosphere)
There's also 3 games worth of music to throw in to pad out music choices. Non-returning Brawl stages will be targets to have their music distributed between various levels, making the music count on each stage still reasonable with less work.
Yeah, but it's only worth a grain of salt unless we get substantial visual evidence (images, footage, etc.) supporting it.
Heard about it (from Spainkiller I think). Doesn't sound legit but that mode looks interesting from the description.
theprodigy
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time is split with the 3DS version, so it's not like Wii U will get all the stages
The Captain
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You are ignoring the most important Smash game here: the 3DS version. Fewer new stages than Melee, fewer stages in general than Brawl. With the roster parity already in place, and split focus, I doubt the Wii U version will get 55.
yeah it actually sounds awesome, little bit too mortal kombat-ish but awesome
Lord_Byron28
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There's already 21 new stages for the 3DS title though.
balladofwindfishes
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A bunch of levels are borrowed from Smash 3DS, plus more than a third of the stages in the 3DS are retro levels. When you boil down to levels that are 100% new and 100% exclusive to the 3DS, the number isn't really all too much if you toss them into the total stage count. It still remains around what Melee added for Stages, and most of those stages had full orchestrated soundtracks, less resources on the Melee team, the inability to port resources from games because they were all SNES or N64 resources. And yet they managed to add 26 entirely new stages and 3 retro stages.
Smash 4 has the ability to port resources from GCN, Wii and Wii U titles. This saves a ton of work. Like, chances are Sky Loft was shown very early because it was just that easy to create.
We also haven't seen the phrase "most stages will have a final destination" come into play. This may be relevant to the Wii U, where resources were more spent on new stages instead of FD of all stages.
theprodigy
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MrSaturn99
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We haven't seen Corneria in the localized release, right? Maybe they rerecorded the old dialogue with Assault/SF643D actors for w/e reason.
Couldn't stand Rare's Slippy/Peppy voices anyway, so that'd be a plus for me.
Edit: Wait, was the NOA stream playing the JP version? If so, disregard what I said lol
Couldn't stand Rare's Slippy/Peppy voices anyway, so that'd be a plus for me.
Edit: Wait, was the NOA stream playing the JP version? If so, disregard what I said lol
In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
balladofwindfishes
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There are 16 levels not shared with the Wii U version. Of these, how many have 100% unique art assets?
Probably less than 5.
Something like Golden Plains probably wasn't that much work for them to put together since it uses 100% of its art directly ripped from NSMB 2.
Yes, and the direct said "most stages have a final destination"
ALL stages so far have a Final Destination. Even Final Destination has a Final Destination! We haven't seen one that doesn't. Why would they say that unless a few do not on the Wii U version?
KLatin Scelus
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In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
That would be such epic placement.
Palutena would be right in the middle staring at us, as Pit and Dark Pit are beside her.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wolf reconfirmed?
Jawmuncher
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As reconfirmed as snake and Lucas at the moment.
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Here you go. A high def quality screenshot of the character select screen taken by me:
Please stop using the leak picture.
Lord_Byron28
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In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
That's fine for the most part. Although I'd swap R.O.B.'s, Mr. G&W's and DHD's positions with Villager, Pikmin and Shulk since the bottom row seems to fit better for retro/gaming accessories/3rd parties reps(Mr. G&W- G&W, R.O.B.- ROB, WFT- Balance Board, DHD- Zapper).
Yeah, the solo franchise don't matter so much to me, those can go anywhere. I put DHD where he was so that the whole row would be animals
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Spainkiller didn't leaked that one. He only mentioned Ridley, Dixie, Chorus Kids and Mewtwo.
balladofwindfishes
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It's not actually the stage count that gets me, it's the inclusion of a fifth character, because it breaks the css and forces a second page, while four would fit cleanly.
Where's the Chorus Kids?In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
Why people decided to toss Impa in the roster. There are two different sources/rumors that said only Ridley, Dixie, Chorus Kids and Mewtwo. Only that Wii U leak had Impa, which isn't believable.
KLatin Scelus
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MrSaturn99
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desperation
theprodigy
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leak misinformation EVERYWHERE
Oh I probably mixed up that one. Too many leaks! XD
...anyone have easy acess to Brawl to test something ?
If you are using a wiimote with the INTERNAL SPEAKER UP, does the star fox radio transmissions come from the wiimote speaker ?
That would explain the actors, since you can use the 3DS as a controller for the wiiu version ....
If you are using a wiimote with the INTERNAL SPEAKER UP, does the star fox radio transmissions come from the wiimote speaker ?
That would explain the actors, since you can use the 3DS as a controller for the wiiu version ....
Hence my line at the end:
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
They could be anything, for all I care.
I think all 9 top row being mario, and then palu/kirby being center of 3rd and 4th row respectively, are all that matter.
I put impa in because I have a zelda bias, but it could easily be chorus kids. Same w/ mewtwo, that could be wolf, for all I care.
B-but, ssshhhhhhhhh.... Let me have this while it lasts Heath.
I need more SS Impa in my life.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, I don't mind to see playable Impa as well. It would be even amazing if they are going to do Hyrule Warrior movesesets for Impa.
(I know it wouldn't happens)
(I know it wouldn't happens)
The Captain
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I'd say the top row goes:In my mind, sakurai would put palutena and kirby in the middle, like so:
With everything revolving around them. Put dr mario in top row, and all 9 are mario characters, w/ yoshi smack dab in the middle, diving them in twain!
Dixie, impa, ridley, and mewtwo subject to change, of course.
Dr. Mario - Mario - Luigi - Peach - Bowser - Bowser Jr. - Rosalina - Yoshi - Wario
That way Yoshi isn't splitting up the Mario series, the two side-series go on the side, Dr. Mario is to the left of Mario (like he was in Melee), Bowser Jr. is with his papa, and everyone from Mario and onwards is in chronological order.
Then make the buttom row like this:
Mr. Game & Watch - R.O.B. - Duck Hunt - Wii Fit Trainer - Pac Man - Mega Man - Sonic - Mii Fighters
So that the row would go Nintendo peripheral stuff (in chronological order) and then third party characters.
Other than the Mario side-series top row, every 2+ character series is in chronological order right?
theprodigy
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MannyToons
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Speaking of leaks, I find the timing of the '3DS to Wii U transfer = additional characters' leak to be pretty damn convenient coming right after the final roster was confirmed through early copies of the game. Desperation, man.
Unless if that "leak" was posted before the final roster was officially confirmed, then I retract my statement entirely. ...Except the desperation part.
The Captain
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What I really don't get is why, with a 49 character roster, he didn't do something like 7x7 (without random) or 5x10 (with random) instead of making the weird funnel shape that leads to empty slots and an empty row.
If the Wii U version doesn't have the odd Yoshi placement and the clone corner, I would be very happy. Those are my two main complaints with the way the roster is laid out right now.
I know I've hated on Dark Pit a lot in the past, but I probably would've liked him a lot more if he "provided backup" for Palutena in the character select screen. Shoving him into the corner makes it seem like he is something to be ashamed of, along with Lucina and Doctor Mario.
If the Wii U version doesn't have the odd Yoshi placement and the clone corner, I would be very happy. Those are my two main complaints with the way the roster is laid out right now.
I know I've hated on Dark Pit a lot in the past, but I probably would've liked him a lot more if he "provided backup" for Palutena in the character select screen. Shoving him into the corner makes it seem like he is something to be ashamed of, along with Lucina and Doctor Mario.
No way top left isn't mario! I know it was in melee, but that's because of the way clones appeared on the CSS in that game. In this 'characters shift around' world of CSS, mario is top left!
Beelzebufo
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There was a list that had those four along with Duck Hunt, Bowser Jr, and the rest when those leak lists originally came out, but it was from a different source. The rumor only really started once the final roster was confirmed, and someone was confused because they thought those four were a lock, since their friend new about moving models for them.
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