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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!

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jlai

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Masamuna said:
A lot of characters get an ultra off of a deep jumping FP/RH.

I think its just not used much because the opportunity never arises. Rarely do you get a free open jump in that's guaranteed to hit.
 
BotoxAgent said:
it's weird how ur connection goes up and down like that. Anyway GGs. The Moe is strong with you :).
Yeah, it all started when AT&T was doing something to a box about a month and a half ago. Internet went out for a week. Then when they fixed it, our signal decides to go down randomly. And in most cases, the signal will just stop altogether.

But It'll be better in three weeks when I go back to college
when I won't be able to connect to most of you all due to the strict NAT. =/


stabicron7 said:
Or Bison for that matter lol
I believe he can j.fierce/j.roundhouse into Nightmare Booster.
And I think DJ can use both his ultras with the set-up.
 

AZ Greg

Member
I'm not sure where everyone gets those hit box pics, so can someone post Makoto's AA punch move. I don't know what it's called but it's the one where she stays in place and does it. Jab version?
 

Dartastic

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AZ Greg said:
I'm not sure where everyone gets those hit box pics, so can someone post Makoto's AA punch move. I don't know what it's called but it's the one where she stays in place and does it. Jab version?
I don't know where you find them either? I just know it barely works. :(
 
dragonballjoseph said:
I believe he can j.fierce/j.roundhouse into Nightmare Booster.
And I think DJ can use both his ultras with the set-up.

Hmm I might have to go into the lab and check that out, granted it won't be all that useful if it does work but no less useless than his j.mpx2 setup at least.

Edit: Initially it doesn't seem like you can, seems to be lack of charge time that's the issue. I wonder if you have gdlk execution you could get it off j.hp,s.cl.hp xx NMB. Personally I can't seem to pull it off, but I seem to remember hearing somewhere that you can't cancel into an ultra anyways..
 
TheSeks said:
Alright. Question:

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73044 SF4 Controller

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73045 SF4 Stick non TE.

Which is better for the cash in the long-run? I'm sort-of leery about Mad Catz. but for $50, if the stick is trustworthy and good I'm thinking of splurging on it just so I can see if I can adjust to a fight stick.

However, the Pad has been my main thought/thinking-of-buying because a) I wouldn't mind a good 2D/Saturn-style pad and b) It's cheap ($40 compared to $100 for a Stick generally).

So yeah, has anyone in this thread tried both? Are they reliable? Do I have to worry about the parts breaking? Do I have to replace them constantly?

I've got the Mad Catz Fight Pad and I'm not too happy with it. It's been over a month, I've tried to break it in but no progress. There's constantly missing diagonals in my jumps and inputs. SFIV is lenient with the inputs, but with any other game, the controller's been a problem. You're probably better off with the stick. Modding it is simple, just detach and attach your new part.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Cerrius said:
Speaking from personal experience, avoid the Fightstick SE unless you plan to mod it.

The buttons started going wonky on me the first day I got it and the stick wouldn't register the up left direction.

If you want a beginner's stick but don't plan to mod I suggest the Hori EX2.


riceandbeans said:
I've got the Mad Catz Fight Pad and I'm not too happy with it. It's been over a month, I've tried to break it in but no progress. There's constantly missing diagonals in my jumps and inputs. SFIV is lenient with the inputs, but with any other game, the controller's been a problem. You're probably better off with the stick. Modding it is simple, just detach and attach your new part.

So, they both aren't great. Well, the stick isn't unless I mod it (which I don't have the cash or experience for... *sigh*)

That Hori EX2 is 360 only, and the button placement is wonky. Not really my idea of a good stick, esp. since I play on the PS3 (I think the only mod I really want to do to a stick/pay a person for is the ability to use it on 360 [if I choose to play MvC2 XBLA], when PS3 can play on Wii, PC, PS3 just fine being standard USB). :/

Thanks, guys. I think I'll just stick with the Dual Shock 3 (not ideal, esp. since my executions are wonky on it) and pick up BB:CS just by itself for my birthday next week. *sigh*
 
stabicron7 said:
Hmm I might have to go into the lab and check that out, granted it won't be all that useful if it does work but no less useless than his j.mpx2 setup at least.

Edit: Initially it doesn't seem like you can, seems to be lack of charge time that's the issue. I wonder if you have gdlk execution you could get it off j.hp,s.cl.hp xx NMB. Personally I can't seem to pull it off, but I seem to remember hearing somewhere that you can't cancel into an ultra anyways..
I think the timing is really strict.
And now that you mention the cancel, I think it's possible. You can cancel into ultra with teleport. So I wonder if you can do a st.fierce xx teleport xx ultra (works for both).
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
XenoRaven said:
Chun can do it into Kikosho off of j HK, j HP, and nj HP. Maybe more. Haven't tested them all. Haven't tested into Hosenka either. I think it's a pretty common thing. Especially for a really deep jump in.
j HP, HP, U1 works but the timing is pretty strict. You can't really hitconfirm it.
 

Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
AZ Greg said:
I'm not sure where everyone gets those hit box pics, so can someone post Makoto's AA punch move. I don't know what it's called but it's the one where she stays in place and does it. Jab version?

There're pics of everything of her's but that, afaik.
 

XenoRaven

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Hitokage said:
j HP, HP, U1 works but the timing is pretty strict. You can't really hitconfirm it.
Yeah. I know with Kikosho you have to buffer the Ultra motion inside the HPs or HK, then you have to land and hit it immediately or else it drops. Can't think of a situation where you'd actually get a chance to do it though unless you got a stun and wanted to show off, or had no meter.
 

SmokeMaxX

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dragonballjoseph said:
I think the timing is really strict.
And now that you mention the cancel, I think it's possible. You can cancel into ultra with teleport. So I wonder if you can do a st.fierce xx teleport xx ultra (works for both).
Don't cancel TP into Ultra. I mean, you can- but you don't gain any additional properties (esp. not the ability to combo into it). If you just want a purple flash, go for it.

Also, I'm almost positive you can't j. fp or j. rh into Ultra, although there could be some case with particular circumstances where it's possible (counterhit? counterhit + meaty jump in?).

And finally, I'm particularly fond of the j. mp x2 into Ultra setup. People say that noone jumps in on Bison after he gets Ultra 1, but I find even really good players will jump if you set them up for it.
 
SmokeMaxX said:
And finally, I'm particularly fond of the j. mp x2 into Ultra setup. People say that noone jumps in on Bison after he gets Ultra 1, but I find even really good players will jump if you set them up for it.

It isn't the fact that no one jumps in on Bison, far from it, its more that the move has such crappy priority that the only real ways to get it to hit is if they whiff something big, in which case you could probably do a naked ultra anyways.
 

vissione

Banned
Shoutouts to Rocwell blowing me up 34-5 on PSN right now... Also shoutouts to Tim and Reigun for blowing me up with their Chun Li's...

Good thing this isn't for ranbats
 

vulva

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vissione said:
Shoutouts to Rocwell blowing me up 34-5 on PSN right now... Also shoutouts to Tim and Reigun for blowing me up with their Chun Li's...

Good thing this isn't for ranbats
tiimmay here

ggs everyone. I'm sorry if I was lagging a bit, my brother was probably torrenting some porn or something =\

That said your cammy is scary =(
 

Joekage

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Anybody on 360, send me a friend request or invite. Over my friends house and under his gamertag

chuvylicious

Would like to get some matches on with some XBL peeps
 

vulva

Member
Joekage said:
Anybody on 360, send me a friend request or invite. Over my friends house and under his gamertag

chuvylicious

Would like to get some matches on with some XBL peeps
I thought we were bros =(
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Joekage said:
Anybody on 360, send me a friend request or invite. Over my friends house and under his gamertag

chuvylicious

Would like to get some matches on with some XBL peeps

you guys in europe?

I can play if anyone is up for it, tell me here on gaf and I'll log on to my 360
 

Joekage

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Nope sorry haha . Texas, USA here. We can give it the old college try if you're down.

Also so Is it just me or is XBL not working?
 
So I just bought a stick and it's been really hard to unlearn my pad muscle memory.
I went from 3000 pp down to 900:lol

Is there any way to learn using the fightstick without making me want to cry?

It also doesn't help that I'm trying out Chun Li...



Also for some weird reason my execution is a lot better when I'm facing left than the other way around.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Joekage said:
Nope sorry haha . Texas, USA here. We can give it the old college try if you're down.

Also so Is it just me or is XBL not working?

oh, :( well my broadband is pretty junk in general so I think it would be a waste of time :'(
 
VoteForPedro said:
So I just bought a stick and it's been really hard to unlearn my pad muscle memory.
I went from 3000 pp down to 900:lol

Is there any way to learn using the fightstick without making me want to cry?

It also doesn't help that I'm trying out Chun Li...



Also for some weird reason my execution is a lot better when I'm facing left than the other way around.
Generally, most people have difficulty from the right side. Just practice and it'll get better.

And I wouldn't jump to rank when getting your stick, try playing with friends or so. Also, go to training mode with Ryu and practice the FADC into ultra until you get it perfectly everytime from both sides. This helps you with doing the DP and QCF motions as well as assist you in mastering the FADC. You should get it in no time.
 

derFeef

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dragonballjoseph said:
Generally, most people have difficulty from the right side. Just practice and it'll get better.

And I wouldn't jump to rank when getting your stick, try playing with friends or so. Also, go to training mode with Ryu and practice the FADC into ultra until you get it perfectly everytime from both sides. This helps you with doing the DP and QCF motions as well as assist you in mastering the FADC. You should get it in no time.
Complete opposit for me. I can execute everything from the right side (except guiles Ultra1), but I am having problems with 2xQCF or HCF from left. FADC to Ultra is a cakewalk if I am on the right, but impossible if I am on the left. I am right-handed btw.
 
dragonballjoseph said:
Generally, most people have difficulty from the right side. Just practice and it'll get better.

And I wouldn't jump to rank when getting your stick, try playing with friends or so. Also, go to training mode with Ryu and practice the FADC into ultra until you get it perfectly everytime from both sides. This helps you with doing the DP and QCF motions as well as assist you in mastering the FADC. You should get it in no time.

Unfortunately, being from Europe and on PSN I don't have that many friends who play street fighter. That's why I'm doing ranked as it seems to be the fastest way to play several matches in a row. I don't generally care much about points but it kind of bites at my ego when I lose to someone I know I could easily defeat If I was playing on pad :D

And thanks for the FADC tip, I'll try to spend a couple of hours each day doing that as it seems like a neat way to practice the more important motions.

Btw it's worth a shot, I'm pedrooleao on PSN if anyone wants to play a really bad Chun/Bison/Dudley. I'm usually on from 20 to 23 GMT. I would really apreciate some new friends to spar with :D
 

Joekage

Member
Just had a crazy match with Saty (dhalsim player on XBL) in ranked. Barely edged out a win. Counter hit setups worked perfectly. Man I love Cody haha.
 
derFeef said:
Complete opposit for me. I can execute everything from the right side (except guiles Ultra1), but I am having problems with 2xQCF or HCF from left. FADC to Ultra is a cakewalk if I am on the right, but impossible if I am on the left. I am right-handed btw.
I dun goofed and meant to say facing right.

And Vex, go to sleep. :lol
 
Joekage said:
Just had a crazy match with Saty (dhalsim player on XBL) in ranked. Barely edged out a win. Counter hit setups worked perfectly. Man I love Cody haha.
Haven't seen you in forever Joe!

Miss ya!

<3
 

Joekage

Member
Axis said:
so anyone up to play? GT: vexco
Sent you a message, looks like your friends list is full. I'm down to play though. Ranked is boring the hell out of me.

Also Coil, I miss you too man. I will be back on PSN Gaf tomorrow. Hope to see how you've improved :)
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
to arstal, aak, rikichi, etc. had a realllyyy bad day day, we need a runback. was on the phone with verizon for most of it, cpu messed up, have to reformat, lost so many things :(
 

Joekage

Member
GG's to Axis. Your Chuns pressure was relentless. A breath of fresh air from the usual chuns I play. Sorry I kept changing characters, trying to find a new alt to supplement Cody. Looks like Ryu is my best bet haha. Hope we get to play again soon.
 

Axis

Member
Joekage said:
GG's to Axis. Your Chuns pressure was relentless. A breath of fresh air from the usual chuns I play. Sorry I kept changing characters, trying to find a new alt to supplement Cody. Looks like Ryu is my best bet haha. Hope we get to play again soon.

gg's! felt like a combo dummy there for a little while haha...it's cool, i'm still trying to learn all the matchups so it was helping either way. so pissed i dashed and somehow missed the ultra. :(

anytime, man
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
I'm still here, ready, willing....

come on yurop-gaf, it's rainy here and everything sucks. Lets dance on xbl <3
 
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