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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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"God's Beard!"
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Don't say that, my friend plays Makoto and your replay is going to make him so excited :loljlai said:
mjc said:
There are far more new people to the game than old school players. And just like the old players, new people have to take a lot of beatings and general play time to get to where they want.
I wish I could spend more time with the game myself but I do pretty good for someone who only plays an hour or two at most and once or twice a week.
EraldoCoil
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Joekage said:
i'm workin on a lil somethin somethin for you too. Still a work in progress though, currently on day #5. JAGUAR!
TurtleSnatcher
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Highlight of my night..
Beating a 3900pp bison with 12.5kbp..
Thats no DBJ but still.. I was happy.
He was Dash Happy.. I made sure to punish that
Beating a 3900pp bison with 12.5kbp..
Thats no DBJ but still.. I was happy.
He was Dash Happy.. I made sure to punish that
KidA Seven
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Any Ibuki players know where I can find a list for whom this combo works against?
Jump in attack, tc ? (s. lp, s. mp, s. hp), s. lp, s. mk, tsumuji, raida? Seems like some characters can't get hit by it, either that or can't get the timing right for some characters...
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Also, Fuck the cammy match up. :lol
Jump in attack, tc ? (s. lp, s. mp, s. hp), s. lp, s. mk, tsumuji, raida? Seems like some characters can't get hit by it, either that or can't get the timing right for some characters...
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Also, Fuck the cammy match up. :lol
KS Seven X said:
I think it doesn't work on Honda, Makoto, Akuma, Dan, Cammy, Viper, Juri, Blanka, Hawk and Rose.
edit: wait a minute I was doing a totally different combo (LP>MP>HP xx QCB+LK, LP, MK xx)
I think the one you listed doesn't work on Akuma, Viper and Blanka. Not sure who else.
dragonballjoseph
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A lot of high ranking Bison's that I've come across actually have pretty poor defenses. So all you need to do is open them up and be on the offensive.TurtleSnatcher said:Highlight of my night..
Beating a 3900pp bison with 12.5kbp..
Thats no DBJ but still.. I was happy.
He was Dash Happy.. I made sure to punish that
I've pretty much torn up a lot of the A/B+ ranking ones with my Sakura.
Did some games with this guy from Georgia last night. They were mostly Sakura-Balrog match-ups (he then asked me to play Bison, in which I got put on blast due to me being too overaggressive). One round, he pretty much mauled my Sakura and got a perfect. I then returned the favor the following round. :lol
My links with Sakura can be so crispy sometimes.
Windom Earle
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USD said:
I really have to try out Fei Long one day...
sixteen-bit
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sup SF gaf
what is your personal worst matchup?
I always lose to Vegas, even shitty ones
Also goddamn, Fei Long for most-improved?
what is your personal worst matchup?
I always lose to Vegas, even shitty ones
Also goddamn, Fei Long for most-improved?
bigmit3737
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Kadey said:
What are you using to capture? The quality is amazing.
BotoxAgent
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_dementia said:
Blanka and Zangief
I always lose to Vega (when it's AZ Greg)
dragonballjoseph
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Deejay._dementia said:
Because I'm laughing so hard, I can't focus on the match.
Gouken and Guile, but I'm slowly catching on. Dee Jay is still pretty invincible although I'm working on that._dementia said:
Blanka is a bastard. His ball move is a bastard. His electric move is a bastard. His ultras are a bastard. Blanka is a bastard.
It doesn't even matter if you see Blanka's next attack coming at the last moment if you're low on health.
YOU'RE STILL SCREWED!
Sir Garbageman
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_dementia said:
As a Ryu player a solid Rog has given me fits since vanilla, followed by Bison and Guile.
"God's Beard!"
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As Dudley:
Dhalsim - DAMN YOU STRETCHY LIMBS
Seth - stretchy limbs + command throw = sad
Guile - sonic boom recovery is too fucking fast
Juri - not as bad, but 2 fireballs can fuck up my ducking sometimes, and I can't punish back jumps like other characters
As Fei Long:
Sagat - fireballs all day
Guile - Sonic booms all day
Dhalsim - DAMN YOU STRETCHY LIMBS
Seth - stretchy limbs + command throw = sad
Guile - sonic boom recovery is too fucking fast
Juri - not as bad, but 2 fireballs can fuck up my ducking sometimes, and I can't punish back jumps like other characters
As Fei Long:
Sagat - fireballs all day
Guile - Sonic booms all day
~Devil Trigger~
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_dementia said:
Focus Attacks are my worst match-ups
why do people only usually send MP when they loose? Complaining about they rival fighting style. It is just stupid.
I am trying to improve my Guile , but i am too old school and barely use focus so when fighting +4K characters i am having a hard time
i'd love to find a second character i could use (not shotos) but i dislike almost all of them, but Fei Long , and i get raped whet i use him
Complaining about they rival fighting style. It is just stupid. I am trying to improve my Guile , but i am too old school and barely use focus so when fighting +4K characters i am having a hard time
i'd love to find a second character i could use (not shotos) but i dislike almost all of them, but Fei Long , and i get raped whet i use him
Okay, not invincible, but turtling/keepaway Dee Jay is up there with Guile against me. But since Guile is infinitely more common online, I get more practice against him.Threi said:
Probably worth noting for the billionth time that
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
sixteen-bit
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why does the watermark say SRK?~Devil Trigger~ said:
none of the EG team play DP characters
the_log_ride
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_dementia said:
As Dhalsim:
- Abel
- Rufus
- Boxer
- Akuma
the_log_ride
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Once you get in close with roll, you can pretty much just go to town. This is a really bad matchup for 'Sim.
Abel's U2 is just immoral against 'Sim :lol
Abel's U2 is just immoral against 'Sim :lol
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah, I love fighting Gouken :lolImm0rt4l said:
What about Ibuki, though? She can non-ex slide right through your fireballs.
EraldoCoil
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my bad matchups:
online: Lag is my worst matchup, fuck that shit.
offline: Abel, Guile, Sim, Vega.
online: Lag is my worst matchup, fuck that shit.
offline: Abel, Guile, Sim, Vega.
MiniBossBattle
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~Devil Trigger~ said:
Whoa, I used to live in San Mateo :lol. Man, if I knew they were playing I would have drove down there to see those guys and eat some Katsu curry.
Was there a steam?
Edit: an all Rufus team?
you're absolutely right, thing is a lot of ibuki's aren't aware that you can non ex neckbreaker under his fireballs! This is a tough matchup, but I haven't found any ibuki's that can body me thoroughly at all, I've fought maybe 2 ibuki's that were legit, one being elite zeus/zeu$ on psn he's good, to the majority ibuki players credit I play ibuki myself so I guess I have a good understanding of the matchup. I rarely get beat by ibuki's, but I rape Goukens when I play as Ibuki, she's definitely gonna be a problem once players start wising up and not trying to vortex him so haphazardly, since damage is in goukens favor.God's Beard said:
Abels can also be a pain, I really hate fighting guile as well, match is supposedly in guiles favor but I don't believe that. I just find throwing fireballs all day to be very boring, I don't play that match particularly smart.
Blanka is also a pain, very difficult to punish his blanka balls, slow wakeup, stupid shenanigans that punish you for crouch teching etc.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
I really dont feel Makoto has horrific match-ups(3-7s and 2-8s), she has one of the best set of Normals among "quarter circle characters", just a couple of things that keeps her from having favorable match-ups. Not just stay one step ahead, sometimes you actually have to see the future to win:lol
personally my toughest Match-ups:
1- Chun Li
2- Akuma (u cant fuckin' stay on Him!!!)
3- Guile
4- Ryu(Mr. All around)
5- Honda
as Gouken, same suspects Capcom did'nt help the old bag at all
- Cammy
- Fuerte (pure guess work)
- Gief (there are no good wake options.)
- Balrog
- Chun
personally my toughest Match-ups:
1- Chun Li
2- Akuma (u cant fuckin' stay on Him!!!)
3- Guile
4- Ryu(Mr. All around)
5- Honda
as Gouken, same suspects Capcom did'nt help the old bag at all
- Cammy
- Fuerte (pure guess work)
- Gief (there are no good wake options.)
- Balrog
- Chun
The Abominable Snowman
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Although all my matchups are bad ( ) fireball/Uppercut spam Sagats, Hondas, 'Rogs (Getting better though, I can throw them out of dash spam) and good Chun Lis are still my weak spot
) fireball/Uppercut spam Sagats, Hondas, 'Rogs (Getting better though, I can throw them out of dash spam) and good Chun Lis are still my weak spotLost Fragment
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Mine with Makoto atm:
1- Honda
2- Akuma. Been messing around with option select ultra 2 on his wakeup to catch teleport lately though with decent success. Good ones (Grifter) still control their space too well, apply too much pressure, and Makoto doesn't have an answer for palm os cr.hk afaik, though.
3- Guile
4- Bison. But I've been getting better with this match lately. Mostly because on wakeup os st.hk trades in her favor with ex pc, and makes ex headstomp whiff. But she still crumples under his pressure pretty hard.
5- Chun. Hard to get in on her and stay in because of her backdash. Can os it on wakeup, but hard to do anything about it otherwise unless you see it coming.
So basically, my least favorite matches with Viper + Guile and Chun.
Not sure why I didn't try this before, because it seems pretty obvious in retrospect. Maybe I did try it, but I mistimed it and it got stuffed so I assumed it didn't work or something.
1- Honda
2- Akuma. Been messing around with option select ultra 2 on his wakeup to catch teleport lately though with decent success. Good ones (Grifter) still control their space too well, apply too much pressure, and Makoto doesn't have an answer for palm os cr.hk afaik, though.
3- Guile
4- Bison. But I've been getting better with this match lately. Mostly because on wakeup os st.hk trades in her favor with ex pc, and makes ex headstomp whiff. But she still crumples under his pressure pretty hard.
5- Chun. Hard to get in on her and stay in because of her backdash. Can os it on wakeup, but hard to do anything about it otherwise unless you see it coming.
So basically, my least favorite matches with Viper + Guile and Chun.
AZ Greg said:The biggest difference is that he uses the LP version of that up punch move to stuff my wall dives. Seems to beat it pretty easily. And then he gets that free juggle combo and I'm probably close to or in the corner after that.
But there's also a lot of stuff he gets me with that is just more from him playing me a lot and adjusting as opposed to the character. He uses FAs really well and since Makoto has a good one he's extra deadly with it against me when he's using her. And he's also really good at knowing when I'm going to fly at him with a naked ex wall dive. He'll punish that with like Makoto's jb.Fierce (The move where she looks like she's doing a roll in the air) and then after that he can dash in and go to work. That's something I need to clean up though as it seems I go for those almost always after a throw tech. :|
I also play his Makoto a lot more aggressive than yours since me and him have a pretty good connection and I'm still trying to learn/test things in the match-up. Of course that ends up getting me in trouble a lot of times.
Not sure why I didn't try this before, because it seems pretty obvious in retrospect. Maybe I did try it, but I mistimed it and it got stuffed so I assumed it didn't work or something.
~Devil Trigger~ said:
yea when gief runs okizeme on gouken it's not even 50/50, shit's like 80/20 gief, the guy who eliminated me at EVO shut down all my options once he got a knockdown on me and you can't really throw fireballs haphazardly at a gief if he has meter. Shit was fucking demoralizing.
I'm so going to counterpick next year, fuck that noise.
For me as Dictator:
-Chun-Li
-Cammy
So for me it has to be Chun, and Cammy. With Chun, i vs a good one, it feels like a hill climb. In regards to Cammy, it started off as a fair nasty matchup for me, kept eating Cannon Spikes when i got jump/stomp/air happy...basically kept eating that move repeatedly when i vsd her. Now it's much better, but she can give some mean pressure.
-Chun-Li
-Cammy
So for me it has to be Chun, and Cammy. With Chun, i vs a good one, it feels like a hill climb. In regards to Cammy, it started off as a fair nasty matchup for me, kept eating Cannon Spikes when i got jump/stomp/air happy...basically kept eating that move repeatedly when i vsd her. Now it's much better, but she can give some mean pressure.
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