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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!

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zlatko

Banned
MightyKAC said:
How is a "hit and run" style Vega any different from a "flowchart" Ken or a "turtle" Guile?
Cuz let me tell you, each of those playstyles I just mentioned are JUST as annoying as what you described. Does that make Guile and Ken dumb too? Just because some players play them in certain (annoying) ways?

Mmm they aren't as annoying to me. I find those much easier to handle as Abel than Vega's claw pokes, and yeows. Plus trying to mix him up on his wake up seems to never work out for me. Trying to chase him down when he keeps doing that back flip is a pain too and saves him from a lot of crap on wake up that I could do.

Plain and simple I just don't like Vega. I respect Az Greg for being a good player, but again I could care 2 craps less about Vega himself. It goes further than just how people opt to play him, but as a character overall.
 

BitchTits

Member
zlatko said:
He is about even with Blanka in pure dumb. :lol
I would say a bad Vega is like a bad Blanka - they'll both rely on one move - Wall dive and blanka ball. Once you know how to deal with either of those, these fools have nothing and can be taken down in seconds.

Now a good Vega can be scary, and beautiful! :lol
 

Articate

Banned
BotoxAgent said:
I get like that too though. And a lot of it has to do with how my brain works maybe. Sometimes, I devote my entire thinking/anticipating with my ground game that I can't AA for shit. I am amazed at seeing Daigo play perfect footsies and at the same time AAing every single jump in with perfectly timed DP w/out trading. I don't think my brain is capable of function doing both at the same time,ugh.

To put it in terms of The Last Samurai:
Too many minds.

Minding moves, minding people that watch, minding opponent. Too many minds. No mind.


Really, train so you know this shit by heart. Then you can counter on react without having to think about it, because "thinking" about it will bottle-neck it to such a degree that you won't be able to react. If you have to think about how you're going to anti-air every time someone does something, you're likely to do everything too late.
 
man that rule about how you have to link your normals together instead of canceling them, in order to cancel into a special move, is really grating when you're playing fei long.
 

Caj814

Member
Killa Sasa said:
GG's to Axis, threijay, DBJ, AZ Greg, Kak and anyone else I may have played but forgotten.

Thanks for helping me with my procrastination :D.

btw Threi, your Dee Jay is good. Mirrors are a crummy measuring stick to go by lol.

Edit:

Does anyone know if custom soundtracks via TVersity or any media server program cause lag while playing online? Getting a bit tired of not having a true selectable soundtrack so thinking about making my own.

Maybe it would be smarter to just get a USB drive specifically for that just in case.

I use my computer monitor most of the time and since my 360 and PC share the same speakers,I just boot up my mp3 player and get the same results without any lag

DryEyeRelief said:
man that rule about how you have to link your normals together instead of canceling them, in order to cancel into a special move, is really grating when you're playing fei long.

I know what you mean.When I occasionally play him I keep forgetting that you need a slight pause between your normal and your rekka input while almost every other character can just cancel normally.
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
DryEyeRelief said:
man that rule about how you have to link your normals together instead of canceling them, in order to cancel into a special move, is really grating when you're playing fei long.

The rule really makes little sense when you think about it to boot- it's like it was thrown in there just to make things harder. It just irks me from a design standpoint.
 
arstal said:
That said, has anyone thought that their abilities are just declining due to slower reflexes? I'm feeling like I can't react to things fast enough to compete at a decent level anymore.

Realized this at the last tourney I went to- I just can't react at all anymore. It's like I've grown too old for the quicker games, and even this.

I feel like a washed-up old bum who can't hit the fastball anymore.

Every day. I'll get hit by crap that I'm seriously wondering how, and it's because I didn't react to it pretty much at all. The sort of crap I used to hit people out of constantly and play at least a BIT more carefully, I just feel like a glass cannon, now. I'm honestly amazed I can even do any of the tougher trials, now.
 

MightyKAC

Member
zlatko said:
Mmm they aren't as annoying to me. I find those much easier to handle as Abel than Vega's claw pokes, and yeows. Plus trying to mix him up on his wake up seems to never work out for me. Trying to chase him down when he keeps doing that back flip is a pain too and saves him from a lot of crap on wake up that I could do.

As far "easily punishable" moves go Vega's back flip has GOTTA be in the top 10. The only times I ever use it is when:

A. Someone commits a move I can see coming from a mile away and I wanna put myself in a good position to punish.

or.

B. I'm in a corner getting wailed on and shitting myself because that's like one of the 3 whole options that I have to keep myself from getting raped (which quite often ends up badly for me anyway).


zlatko said:
Plain and simple I just don't like Vega. I respect Az Greg for being a good player, but again I could care 2 craps less about Vega himself. It goes further than just how people opt to play him, but as a character overall.

Fair enough. Every now and then the Vega hate train comes through because some ass-hat Vega player spams wall dives and then run away and repeats until victory making the rest of us look bad because of it. But once you get familiar with the match up then about 90% of all Vega's become a free win.

<-------- Still working on getting myself out of that percentage :p
 

zlatko

Banned
MightyKAC said:
As far "easily punishable" moves go Vega's back flip has GOTTA be in the top 10. The only times I ever use it is when:

A. Someone commits a move I can see coming from a mile away and I wanna put myself in a good position to punish.

or.

B. I'm in a corner getting wailed on and shitting myself because that's like one of the 3 whole options that I have to keep myself from getting raped (which quite often ends up badly for me anyway).




Fair enough. Every now and then the Vega hate train comes through because some ass-hat Vega player spams wall dives and then run away and repeats until victory making the rest of us look bad because of it. But once you get familiar with the match up then about 90% of all Vega's become a free win.

<-------- Still working on getting myself out of that percentage :p

I love when they just spam wall dive. I focus absorb dash in and grab. Those vegas are hell free. One knock down they are screwed because they don't know how to block a cross up so it's just easy peesy.

I just tend to lose to the stupidest crap. Like just now a B+ Ryu did nothing other than jabs, neutral jumps, and throws. He completely beat me out doing that and I felt like my brain died or something.

A lot of times with Vega I just lose to blocking too much and then not option select tick throwing. I mean I'll input it but I get thrown either way. Most of the damage to me online from randoms comes from being thrown.
 

DarkoMaledictus

Tier Whore
Gyrian said:
There are two other hilarious matches after the one you're linking, where he continues to play Makoto.
Some elevated sodium, haha.

Hahaha that guy sucks and still complains... takes a special moron to act that way ;)!
 

Servizio

I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Alright, this might not be a good idea and all, as what I'm about to post is a little bit NSFW. And by a little bit NSFW, I mean it contains hardcore animated pornography. But boy is it funny. And Street Fighter related! But seriously, a small part of it is worse then...Well, you remember the raunchy puppet sex scene in Team America? And then the projectile vomit scene? It's like those combined, times ten. I mean, jeez. The rest of it, though...Is pretty off color and violent. But compared to that last bit, it's practically Sesame Street. II.

Anyway, NSFW! But funny! And Street Fighter!

Something like twenty or so flash animated Street Fighter shorts.

Street Fighter Collab on Newgrounds

Actually, I just noticed it was posted more than a year ago. But hey! It's new to me so maybe it'll be new to some of you too.
 

MightyKAC

Member
On a different note, has anyone here deciphered how the whole connection bar thing for this game works?

Because I'll have 3 out of 4 bars on one match and still have lag spikes but when I play Kaako and Kadey both with with no bars at all it plays just fine?

Is the connection rating system just borked or am I missing something here?
 

MIMIC

Banned
BitchTits said:
I would say a bad Vega is like a bad Blanka - they'll both rely on one move - Wall dive and blanka ball. Once you know how to deal with either of those, these fools have nothing and can be taken down in seconds.

Now a good Vega can be scary, and beautiful! :lol

I played a Vega like that and was so annoyed after I beat him that I couldn't resist telling him how I felt in a message. Then I realized that he was just a n00b and then I apologized :lol
 
AkumaHokoru said:
Truest thing ever said on neogaf.

as a person who mains chun, I am inclined to agree that Chun is not the most exciting character to watch (except in the hands of Japanese players or American players like Ricky and Justin)

Articate - so true. I tend to overthink a lot, and when someone finally does something...I am like "deerrrrrrrr" lol
 

zlatko

Banned
FindMyFarms said:
zlatko, vega's not dumb ur dumb ya thats right

wa wa wa wa T_T /zlatko

U mad ? :lol

:p I just don't like the character. Vega is like the color orange. I don't like it, but I know some people do.
 

XenoRaven

Member
BotoxAgent said:
as a person who mains chun, I am inclined to agree that Chun is not the most exciting character to watch (except in the hands of Japanese players or American players like Ricky and Justin)
A traitor would say that.
 

Leunam

Member
DR2K said:
Vega is free.

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zlatko

Banned
FindMyFarms said:
No, YOUR MAD
and sad

edit - wa wa wa wa wa wa T_T /zlatko

Ya you mad! :lol

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DR2K Vega is far from free. Az Greg will blow you up anytime I'm sure. Everytime I've fought him he destroys me. One time I got a round off him and I cheered. :lol
 

Dartastic

Member
AZ Greg said:
You're on XBL, right?
:lol :lol :lol :D

...so um, I also ordered some parts today for my SE stick. Lately it's been acting up, and I figured it was time to bring it up to speed and make it not shitty. I ordered some Sanwa parts (8 buttons and a new stick, all from the TE) and I got someone to make me a template for my stick on SRK. I can't wait until I can go ahead and get it done and show you guys! ahh!

zlatko said:
DR2K Vega is far from free. Az Greg will blow you up anytime I'm sure. Everytime I've fought him he destroys me. One time I got a round off him and I cheered. :lol
...I know how you feel. :lol
 
Damn, there's alot of hate in the last 2 pages. Grudge match, DR2K vs Greg NAO!!!

Also schennmu vs any of the many Chun players in hurr, make this shit happen!!!
 

Dartastic

Member
black_vegeta said:
Damn, there's alot of hate in the last 2 pages. Grudge match, DR2K vs Greg NAO!!!

Also schennmu vs any of the many Chun players in hurr, make this shit happen!!!
I'd be down to play some with my shitty Chun, but my roommate using the TV to play Star Ocean 2. :lol
 

SUPARSTARX

Member
dragonballjoseph said:
Yeah. Keep the hate out of this thread.
I mean, if people just realize that Bison and Sakura are the only good characters in the game, we could all get along.
Oh man, don't start the fire!
 

hitsugi

Member
dragonballjoseph said:
Yeah. Keep the hate out of this thread.
I mean, if people just realize that Bison and Sakura are the only good characters in the game, we could all get along.

If only we had CVS2 Sakura....
 
black_vegeta said:
Also schennmu vs any of the many Chun players in hurr, make this shit happen!!!

Haha, if some Chun wants to take revenge on me I'm up for it. My Dudley is free for lame asian women! :lol

(EU, PSN)
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
Ledsen said:
What the fuck is up with all the Chun hate? Bandwagoners hating on her Ultra 2 I bet, CHUN POWER!!!

ive hated chun across numerous games over a decade for pretty much the same reasons. Her normals have always been so good that it seemed like you can hit any buttons in any sequence for an airtight blockstring..and the pokes..omg..i swear i hate me some chun
 

Lost Fragment

Obsessed with 4chan
Speaking of Makoto, I just read on SRK that NinjaCW dropped her.

I think this means that I'm gonna have to show up at Seasons Beatings and murder everyone with Makoto now, since Ninja's the only American tourney Makoto that I know of.
 

jlai

Member
Lost Fragment said:
Speaking of Makoto, I just read on SRK that NinjaCW dropped her.

I think this means that I'm gonna have to show up at Seasons Beatings and murder everyone with Makoto now, since Ninja's the only American tourney Makoto that I know of.

Sad, it was after watching his match vs Filipino Champ that I decided I was gonna really try using her. Forgot which event it was
 
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