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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!

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Fraeon

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Wiseblade said:
This. statistically there should have been roughly 50 people using each character, but characters like El Fuerte and Sakura only had a tenth of that number.
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Not really sure if you're joking here but that's only assuming that the strength of the character is the only reason people pick their characters.
 
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Wiseblade

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Fraeon said:
Not really sure if you're joking here but that's only assuming that the strength of the character is the only reason people pick their characters.
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1700/35 = 48.6

AFAIK, there were only 5 Fuerte players present at EVO.
 
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haunts

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Fraeon said:
Not really sure if you're joking here but that's only assuming that the strength of the character is the only reason people pick their characters.
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Dont you want the character you enjoy playing to be strong?
 
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MIMIC

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marathonfool said:
Anyone else still working on the challenge trials?

I'm at around 98%. Slowly making my way to 100%. Today I finished Zangief, Fei Long, and Guile. I get stuck on a trial and I think I'll never be able to do it. Eventually I take a break, come back, and do it within a few minutes.

On the last trial with Abel, Vega, Blanka, and Makoto. Only one left with Akuma, Ken, and Dan. A couple more with Ibuki, C.Viper, Gen, and El Fuerte.

Doing these trials have helped me gauge my progress using the joystick. It feels good to see your dexterity is improving.
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Good luck with Ibuki and Viper. Super jump cancels >_<

Decided to get the rest of the titles last night and all I needed was "Gouken Killer". Using the 2nd controller as a reset, it took me 21 kills overall :lol Didn't have trouble beating anyone....but getting the one perfect on my rival (and the 3 ultra finishes) were kinda tough.
 
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Solune

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MIMIC said:
Good luck with Ibuki and Viper. Super jump cancels >_<

Decided to get the rest of the titles last night and all I needed was "Gouken Killer". Using the 2nd controller as a reset, it took me 21 kills overall :lol Didn't have trouble beating anyone....but getting the one perfect on my rival (and the 3 ultra finishes) were kinda tough.
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I don't know I find RSF wayyyy harder to do than SJC.
And you don't need to get the perfect on your rival =p.
Trick to getting perfect on the first round on hardest, move forward a bit and charge up Focus level 3, rinse and repeat.

marathonfool said:
I just watched some Yun videos. I hate his character. It seems like it's all about building meter, dive kicks, parry, hit-confirm, then custom combo. 40% life is gone.
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More than half of what you listed can be attributed to 3rd Strike in general rather than just his character. Substitute genei jin with generic super, thats 3rd Strike.
 
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dragonballjoseph

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Wiseblade said:
This. statistically there should have been roughly 50 people using each character, but characters like El Fuerte and Sakura only had a tenth of that number.
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That's because Sakura is the worse character in the game. Despite having extremely good OS's and the ablility to do around 400 damage without meter. Buy hey, what do I know.
 
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BitchTits

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marathonfool said:
Anyone else still working on the challenge trials?
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I'm at 89%, I go back occasionally, but all these LP,LP,LK,MK, blah, blah ones are completely beyond my feeble hands, I'm gonna try and get it to 90%, then I'm done. :lol
 
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STG

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BitchTits said:
Why can't Yun have Genei Jin in SSF4? It seems people are saying he can't, but I haven't seen it explained why.
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the super bar in sf3 is filling like 400 times faster as in ssf4
and in ssf4 the super bar is more for Ex moves
IMHO
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
BitchTits said:
Why can't Yun have Genei Jin in SSF4? It seems people are saying he can't, but I haven't seen it explained why.
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Genei is all about wiffing normals.
 
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CPS2

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STG said:
the super bar in sf3 is filling like 400 times faster as in ssf4
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This just seems like more reason why he should have genei jin imo. Plus it would make him play differently to everyone else.
 
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MIMIC

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Solune said:
I don't know I find RSF wayyyy harder to do than SJC.
And you don't need to get the perfect on your rival =p.
Trick to getting perfect on the first round on hardest, move forward a bit and charge up Focus level 3, rinse and repeat.
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Yeah I know. I tried to get perfect earlier but whenever I didn't, I just went for the 1st attack/Ultra in that match. Then again, and again, and again....until I was at my rival and then I HAD to get perfect, lol (cuz I figured that it would be more difficult to try and get perfect on Seth).

And regarding the RSF, what are you talking about? That move is EASY! =p Heh....but yes, it is quite difficult if you aren't maining him. It's interesting because I think that that's one of the most difficult trials that is used consistently by the people who use him. And I think what makes it more difficult is that there's no rhythm to it until the 3rd hit, and then it's over. For those doing the trial, you never really get a "feel" for it.
 
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BitchTits

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Yoshichan said:
Genei is all about wiffing normals.
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OK, so the whole basis of Genei not being a viable super (or ultra?) in SSF4 is based on the fact that whiffy normals in SF4 engine doesn't build meter?
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
BitchTits said:
OK, so the whole basis of Genei not being a viable super (or ultra?) in SSF4 is based on the fact that whiffy normals in SF4 engine doesn't build meter?
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Yeah and building super in SSFIV is slow as hell.
 
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Zapages

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played some SF4TS on GPPO... My God I hate Yun players.... Yang is ok because his kicks are fun and annoying to do. But no Yun.
 
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ElFly

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BitchTits said:
Why can't Yun have Genei Jin in SSF4? It seems people are saying he can't, but I haven't seen it explained why.
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Rose had a similar super in the alpha series.

It was removed from her SF4 incarnation.

Probably because rendering the "shadows" would be tricky.
 
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Spiderjericho

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ElFly said:
Rose had a similar super in the alpha series.
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In Alpha one, you could do shadow super and slide continuously. In Alpha Two, she had a sick combo with her soul spiral.

If they give Yun Genei Jin, please make it his ultra. Please. There's still the posibility of him doing it twice in the round but he can't build it off whiffing.
 
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arstal

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Solune said:
I don't know I find RSF wayyyy harder to do than SJC.
And you don't need to get the perfect on your rival =p.
Trick to getting perfect on the first round on hardest, move forward a bit and charge up Focus level 3, rinse and repeat.



More than half of what you listed can be attributed to 3rd Strike in general rather than just his character. Substitute genei jin with generic super, thats 3rd Strike.
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This exists in all fighters with super meters to some degree, but 3S was the worst for it ever.

Yun and Chun were top tier because they were able to use the system best.

I'm interested to see if they bother to change up combos any, or fix the controls.
 
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EraldoCoil

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hope it's not Yun or Yang, even if it is, Yun is gonna suck without being able to whiff normals to build meter. Either way just seems like a waste of slots if they were included.

Bring in Viewtiful Joe! :p
 
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dragonballjoseph

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When you see it, brix will come.
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MrMephistoX

MrMephistoX

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marathonfool said:
I just watched some Yun videos. I hate his character. It seems like it's all about building meter, dive kicks, parry, hit-confirm, then custom combo. 40% life is gone.

Yang looks more interesting even though he has a custom combo. Got a super jump and teleport to mixup. Not sure how much he relies on the dive kick.
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Hmm it would be pretty cool if they worked in tag team rather than using up two character slots but who am I kidding. No Rolento?
 
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XenoRaven

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Spiderjericho said:
In Alpha one, you could do shadow super and slide continuously. In Alpha Two, she had a sick combo with her soul spiral.

If they give Yun Genei Jin, please make it his ultra. Please. There's still the posibility of him doing it twice in the round but he can't build it off whiffing.
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It has to be an Ultra. If it was a Super you could land Ultra off of any hit with Genei Jin activated. It would be silly.

I hate to be doom and gloom about stuff like this, but I just picture Yun spamming dive kicks like Rufus, leading into a BnB that ends with that little hop punch he does. It knocks down and allows Yun to land right on top of you for a continued mixup. Also two of them will push you to the corner if you measure from the middle of the screen.

Of course there's always the possibility that his dive kick will be unsafe on block, and his hop punch will be unsafe on hit and only the EX version knocks down. You never know!
 
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ElFly

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Spiderjericho said:
In Alpha one, you could do shadow super and slide continuously. In Alpha Two, she had a sick combo with her soul spiral.

If they give Yun Genei Jin, please make it his ultra. Please. There's still the posibility of him doing it twice in the round but he can't build it off whiffing.
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The problem is not about game balance, but about graphics.
 
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~Devil Trigger~

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XenoRaven said:
It has to be an Ultra. If it was a Super you could land Ultra off of any hit with Genei Jin activated. It would be silly.

I hate to be doom and gloom about stuff like this, but I just picture Yun spamming dive kicks like Rufus, leading into a BnB that ends with that little hop punch he does. It knocks down and allows Yun to land right on top of you for a continued mixup. Also two of them will push you to the corner if you measure from the middle of the screen.

Of course there's always the possibility that his dive kick will be unsafe on block, and his hop punch will be unsafe on hit and only the EX version knocks down. You never know!
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it would'nt be, Makoto's super > ultra is actually a more dangerous thought.
all his hop punches need to be knock downs imo

I hope Yang's Rekka dont "feel" like Fei's. I cant explain it but the timing on Fei's rekka feels weird to me in comparison to Yang's

anyways, Yang >>> Yun
 
hitsugi

hitsugi

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Japan: confusing your sexuality. again.

Also with regards to Akuma since I saw kadey reply earlier: when akuma is on a roll, he destroys. Examples are when tokido got one knock down on sako and would often take the round. But when he gets hit he just gets fucked... badly. I would have liked to see how poongkos Seth would have done.

Infiltration has some original tricks of his own, but his inability to adapt and break away from that damn reset did him in. Tokido... was way too cocky against JR, and eita apparently has never played against an adon before because that was disgusting.

Anyway, I don't think the current akuma players can take tournaments for now... Maybe when momochi comes back to him?
 
Axis

Axis

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XenoRaven said:
It has to be an Ultra. If it was a Super you could land Ultra off of any hit with Genei Jin activated. It would be silly.

I hate to be doom and gloom about stuff like this, but I just picture Yun spamming dive kicks like Rufus, leading into a BnB that ends with that little hop punch he does. It knocks down and allows Yun to land right on top of you for a continued mixup. Also two of them will push you to the corner if you measure from the middle of the screen.

Of course there's always the possibility that his dive kick will be unsafe on block, and his hop punch will be unsafe on hit and only the EX version knocks down. You never know!
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i never really played yun cuz of akuma, necro and Q but...i always thought yuns dive kick could only be triggered at the apex of his jump?
 
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AkumaHokoru

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black_vegeta said:
Dear God.

Serves me right for not checking out Kotaku in over a day.
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My post was before kotaku the og source is kayo her(him)self kayo did a interview on japanese tv and outed himself.

The only pic of kayo i cared about is posted above and i only care because its bayonetta (which sits on my list of DO NOT SELL) games
 
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XenoRaven

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~Devil Trigger~ said:
it would'nt be, Makoto's super > ultra is actually a more dangerous thought.
all his hop punches need to be knock downs imo

I hope Yang's Rekka dont "feel" like Fei's. I cant explain it but the timing on Fei's rekka feels weird to me in comparison to Yang's

anyways, Yang >>> Yun
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But Makoto moves like a dinosaur, has a hard time getting in, can only put pressure on someone from a very close distance, and her Super only allows you to combo into Ultra in certain situations. Her Super also doesn't help her add additional pressure and mixups. Yun could get you in the corner and go crazy with mixups that you just have to block and one overhead or cr jab would lead into an Ultra.

Axis, I don't know a lot about Yun's moves, but this is also a different game we're talking about. They could always change it.
 
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