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[CPS2]

Hey dudes. Entering my first tournament at the start of October (BAM, in Victoria). Going to enter SSF4 Singles and Teams. What are some things I should look out for that differ when I play at a tournament compared to an arcade? I guess I'm sorta looking for tips here and there so I know what to expect seeing as it's my first ;_;

Have a plan, stick to it, don't give up in the middle of a match... even if you're losing, just think about making a comeback or whatever, BELIEVE!

You basically won't be playing for an extended period of time (most likely), then suddenly have to play someone on an unfamiliar setup. This might sound dumb but if you can, try practicing a bit on a 24" monitor and play sitting next to someone, so you're looking at the screen from an angle. It's pretty different to sitting directly in front of a 32" monitor like at home or the arcade. Also, practice with the stick on your lap (if you use a table), because the space may not allow for sticks on tables and you may not get the height you're used to. This stuff might sound minor but it can all stop you from playing as you normally would.

I miiiiight be there... not sure yet.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I just read that here the other day. Kind of disappointing cos it looks like a very cool game otherwise.

Just in case you're not being sarcastic, that's a tool-assisted combo that also happens to be fucking impossible. Three walk up 2As? Fuck that.

 

[Darkman M]

I can't, personally think its another instance of people wanting to see something that isn't there at this point. Every so called confirmation so far has been so blurry or doesn't show enough that you can't really be certain.

Remember these pics are coming from Ono the king of trolls after all

really?

 

[hikarutilmitt]

ETEG isn't as vital as those things mentioned. It's an option select, but in VF you have enough offensive options that you can predict ETEG and punish nicely. If you get them to use those other options (ARM, haven't heard that one- probably something obvious I don't know acronym for)- like low block, you can establish your other offense.

ETEG's an advantage, but it's not going to get you wins as easily as execution can in most other fighters.

BTW it's looking like you can do a double throw escape in FS by buffering an evade between TE's now. Hopefully Sega if they console release patches that out. (Defeats the whole point).

1FL in SF4 isn't as necessary as you're making it out to be, either. It doesn't hurt being able to perform them but a lot of them aren't necessary to go to, say, finals at EVO or something. Daigo couldn't reliably hit Ryu's 6+FP > c.HP link in vanilla (haven't seen him try it in Super, for that matter), but that doesn't mean he's automatically at a disadvantage, either. I'm pretty sure I've seen Valle comment how he has problems doing a lot of high-execution things but has a better strategy or footsies than most people to make up for it.

I'm far from being EVO quality in play, but I used to complain about the 1FL in vanilla until I realized that they're really not that necessary compared to having a good strategy or yomi. Hell, I was JUST spending time practicing Ibuki's lk Tsumuji > lp > mk link to improve my game. Once I got it to a reliable execution I realized the damage from it in combos was almost worthless compared to removing the lk tsumuji into the links in favor of just using raida or an E tsumuji > raida in the corner (thanks damage scaling!). At that point the only thing it seems useful for is stick out a lk tsumuji and then going from there, but even that can be dangerous with most characters.

 

["God's Beard!"]

If you want combos that randomly end, try playing Dudley in SSF4.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

I can't, personally think its another instance of people wanting to see something that isn't there at this point. Every so called confirmation so far has been so blurry or doesn't show enough that you can't really be certain.

Remember these pics are coming from Ono the king of trolls after all

well I saw it immediately when I saw the picture, you can almost see his wrist brace as well. The hat is pretty visible though.

 

[XenoRaven]

That´s a chin, isnt it? Looks Chun to me *hides*

You have weird eyes.

 

[Prime crotch]

I can't, personally think its another instance of people wanting to see something that isn't there at this point. Every so called confirmation so far has been so blurry or doesn't show enough that you can't really be certain.

Remember these pics are coming from Ono the king of trolls after all

its his hat and his squatting, I dont get why people have so much trouble seeing it

 

[CPS2]

Just in case you're not being sarcastic, that's a tool-assisted combo that also happens to be fucking impossible. Three walk up 2As? Fuck that.

Erm I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic. Tool-assisted doesn't mean impossible, it just means execution isn't a factor (which is great for proving things, such as combos randomly ending). Anyway if you have proof that infinites DON'T randomly end in jjba, I'd like to see your videos. Not going to argue.

 

[hitsugi]

its his hat and his squatting, I dont get why people have so much trouble seeing it

thank you. not sure how anyone couldn't have recognized it before

 

["God's Beard!"]

its his hat and his squatting, I dont get why people have so much trouble seeing it

It looks like a baseball player throwing a ball off to the left.

 

[XenoRaven]

To be fair, the bill of the hat looks like the upper part of an arm if you're not looking that closely, and then the blue part of the hat lines up with where some sort of weird really short sleeved shirt would be on the shoulder.

 

[derFeef]

Okay, now I see it, I thought the white cap part was an upper arm.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

To be fair, the bill of the hat looks like the upper part of an arm if you're not looking that closely, and then the blue part of the hat lines up with where some sort of weird really short sleeved shirt would be on the shoulder.

I actually thought this until I studied it closer. I knew it couldn't be Yang since he wears red but then I thought about Yun's outfit and suddenly I saw the hat.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Jojo's fans have lost their fucking minds. Calling Darkstalkers a "Street Fighter" clone? If Darkstalkers is a Street Fighter clone, then so is Marvel, Guilty Gear, and *gasp* Jojo's. That's how loose your definition of "Clone" would have to be to put Darkstalkers there.

Furthermore, I pretty much never judge a fighting game by how "extensive" its single player is. That's a footnote at best. Darkstalkers (Vampire Savior in particular) has very solid, balanced mechanics, interesting characters as well, and was the first (AFAIK) to use some systems that are still being put in games today. Including some that were in Jojo's.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Demitri has a fireball and an uppercut. Case closed. You're right, though. I like Dashing a lot, so thanks VS.

Erm I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic. Tool-assisted doesn't mean impossible, it just means execution isn't a factor (which is great for proving things, such as combos randomly ending). Anyway if you have proof that infinites DON'T randomly end in jjba, I'd like to see your videos. Not going to argue.

I don't know why that guy's combo ended. All I know is that it ended when his MUDA MUDA ran out and he kept pushing 5A. Maybe if he went to 2A xx Rekka it would have kept going, since he was riding the chain off of his special? He says himself that he doesn't know how much about the system. I don't know, and I don't have a programmable controller to check.

 

[MIMIC]

I was Guile and played a disgustingly defensive Rose. Soul Spark after Soul Spark after Soul Spark. During the match, I just stood there and let her perfect me. Ugh.

Maybe the player was angry because they couldn't do that when I was playing Fuerte. ^_^

 

[AkumaHokoru]

Sounds like you are playing online too much and taking it too seriously.

This is unfortunately the case. Like i said for me to train i have to travel for a minimum of 2 hrs.

 

[haunts]

uhh results go something like this


1. vance
2. f. champ
3. mike ross
?. ricky ortiz
?. combofiend
?. grimmz

???

 

[dragonballjoseph]

This is unfortunately the case. Like i said for me to train i have to travel for a minimum of 2 hrs.

Join our daily GAF sessions?

 

[arstal]

Join our daily GAF sessions?

He means offline.

 

[DR2K]

I was Guile and played a disgustingly defensive Rose. Soul Spark after Soul Spark after Soul Spark. During the match, I just stood there and let her perfect me. Ugh.

Maybe the player was angry because they couldn't do that when I was playing Fuerte. ^_^

Playing Rose like Guile?

 

[Lost Fragment]

That's like single-handedly making pads the superior choice for grapplers. I had no idea.

Characters that have tap-like moves too since they can charge without giving up buttons.

Not sure how comfortable I am with that sort of thing being legal in tournaments, actually. But I guess it's not like there are many tournies that go on around my neck of the woods anyway.

 

[gutabo]

awesome stuff about fighters

Hey, they are both great fighters, please don't argue about awesome games :'(
Let's kick SNK vs Capcom in the nuts instead, ok?

 

[Spiderjericho]

uhh results go something like this


1. vance
2. f. champ
3. mike ross
?. ricky ortiz
?. combofiend
?. grimmz

???

They must have slipped something in your beverage as you were spazzing on the mic. It was awesome. Your voice went from mild mannered Niedel to Crazy Haunts. It was great. Kudos on presenting another great stream with A+ competition.

 

[haunts]

They must have slipped something in your beverage as you were spazzing on the mic. It was awesome. Your voice went from mild mannered Niedel to Crazy Haunts. It was great. Kudos on presenting another great stream with A+ competition.

hah I'll have to watch the replays... I was yelling the whole time anyway cause I was DJing, calling out matches, helping run the stream and all other sorts of nonsense. I seriously think I worked harder yesterday than I ever had before. Then it was like end of the night and no one was on commentary aso I just went buckwild. :lol

you know i knew gootecks was showing up but i didnt expect mike and warren. was pretty dope they showed up.

the bar let us route the stream video to a bunch of monitors around the bar and projectors too so it ended up being pretty dope.

I lost an xbox through all the madness though.

 

[Spiderjericho]

Sorry, you lost an Xbox, bro.

But your inner Hulkmaniac was running wild on the stream as you dropped bird ish like a politician campaigning for votes, money, hoes.

I'm a believer, brother. Set your phasers on kill, IPLAYWINNER is going IN!!

 

["God's Beard!"]

Hey, they are both great fighters, please don't argue about awesome games :'(
Let's kick SNK vs Capcom in the nuts instead, ok?

I guess the VS engine lies somewhere between ST and Alpha in the realm of fighting games I really don't like to play.

 

[GotchaForce]

Random thought: how do you get the (rumored) 7 extra characters in with (what looks like) 6 available slots? Make Yun and Yang selectable as one slot. Isn't that what you had to do before?

 

[Lost Fragment]

Been playing Ken the past few days. Starting to feel bad for people who play Ken online with all the hatemail I've gotten :lol

 

["God's Beard!"]

Random thought: how do you get the (rumored) 7 extra characters in with (what looks like) 6 available slots? Make Yun and Yang selectable as one slot. Isn't that what you had to do before?

Yun and Yang are about as similar as Rufus and Fei Long.

Just make the last character selactable by moving off the grid, like Akuma in the original arcade version. Perfect way to select Q.

 

[APZonerunner]

Random thought: how do you get the (rumored) 7 extra characters in with (what looks like) 6 available slots? Make Yun and Yang selectable as one slot. Isn't that what you had to do before?

To be fair, they could totally do this by using the Ultra Select. Rather than the pair having an Ultra each, U1 could be Yun and U2 could be Yang, and whichever one you select is the character you get and the moves you get.

This won't happen, though. Will probably just wind up being six characters.

 

[Lost Fragment]

Wait, who's "its goin rain," and how does he have like 4k bp with sagat/guy but 0 pp?

 

[haunts]

Sorry, you lost an Xbox, bro.

But your inner Hulkmaniac was running wild on the stream as you dropped bird ish like a politician campaigning for votes, money, hoes.

I'm a believer, brother. Set your phasers on kill, IPLAYWINNER is going IN!!

hahaha had to be there brotheeeeerrrr...!! :lol

uploading some vids now. oh god

 

[Kadey]

Been playing Ken the past few days. Starting to feel bad for people who play Ken online with all the hatemail I've gotten :lol

It's fun because most players expect you to be another flowchart. Until those combos start flowing.

Kumie-san. Blah, blah, blah, blah, just play the game.

And I can out drink Haunts any day.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

what are you drinking their kadey?

 

[Spiderjericho]

She's drinking that Zima. Ha, ha, JK.

And I had no idea Kadey would ever reveal herself. In fact, I refuse to believe that's her. She has money and it's a stand in.

 

[haunts]

And I can out drink Haunts any day.

pshhh mikes hard lemonade dosent count!!

 

[Platy]

To be fair, they could totally do this by using the Ultra Select. Rather than the pair having an Ultra each, U1 could be Yun and U2 could be Yang, and whichever one you select is the character you get and the moves you get.

This won't happen, though. Will probably just wind up being six characters.

...all the yun screens shows only 2 new slots ... isn't a little too far in development to show only 2 slots and expect for more 4 chars ?

 

["God's Beard!"]

...all the yun screens shows only 2 new slots ... isn't a little too far in development to show only 2 slots and expect for more 4 chars ?

Not that different than when they had blank slots during SSF4 development.

 

[APZonerunner]

...all the yun screens shows only 2 new slots ... isn't a little too far in development to show only 2 slots and expect for more 4 chars ?

Who knows? The Yun/Yang secret has been blown by the teases in Famitsu and Ono on twitter, he knows we know, we just need confirmation, but he still keeps teasing for Mika and Poison and others... and I don't think he would if the ones we've already had kinda-sorta revealed were the only ones. I for one will be disappointed if all his teasing is for nought.

 

[bigmit3737]

hahaha had to be there brotheeeeerrrr...!! :lol

uploading some vids now. oh god

Where will the videos be uploaded to?

And who won the tourney?

 

[marathonfool]

Anyone see the concept alternate costumes?

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/sep/05/street-fighter-4-alternative-costume-concept-sketches/

Here are a few.

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Bigger pic

 

[haunts]

Where will the videos be uploaded to?

And who won the tourney?

http://www.youtube.com/user/iplaywinner

theres so many matches im trying to get up...

vance vs f. champ.... there is soooooooo much bad langauge in the last video (GF) i dunno if im gonna upload it. :lol

 

[Teknopathetic]

Um, guys. They stopped showing an accurate number of "empty slots" for reveals in like January for Super. It could only be 2 new chars, it could be more.

 

[STG]

there is soooooooo much bad langauge in the last video (GF) i dunno if im gonna upload it. :lol

not only in the last one :>

 

[Spiderjericho]

not only in the last one :>

This is true. N Bombs. F Bombs. S Bombs. A Bombs. It was like Nagasaki.

 

[jlai]

Always nice bumping into a fellow GAFfer in ranked. I wanted to see your Makoto Lost Fragment!

 

[Kadey]

what are you drinking their kadey?

About the only beer that is bought around here. Heineken.

pshhh mikes hard lemonade dosent count!!

She's drinking that Zima. Ha, ha, JK.

And I had no idea Kadey would ever reveal herself. In fact, I refuse to believe that's her. She has money and it's a stand in.

I haven't had that stuff since what? 14-15?

But yeah. I don't usually drink. But when I do. After a few bottles, It all tastes like water to me. And then I start forgetting things. If given a chance, I can drink a case in a matter of hours. People start hiding it and stuff from me. :lol

Believe what you want to believe.

 

[Fraeon]

Who knows? The Yun/Yang secret has been blown by the teases in Famitsu and Ono on twitter, he knows we know, we just need confirmation, but he still keeps teasing for Mika and Poison and others... and I don't think he would if the ones we've already had kinda-sorta revealed were the only ones. I for one will be disappointed if all his teasing is for nought.

Man, I do hope they bring back Sean.

Not because I think he's a good character. Or because I think his design is good. It's because it bugs me that we have every shoto in the series except him in the roster. I can't stand it!