sixteen-bit
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Looking forward to Abel!
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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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sixteen-bit
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I don't. I do watch the game though.
marathonfool
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So, there are some very interesting developments on the arcade version of SSF4. Reported from the loketest.
http://shoryuken.com/content/1729-super-street-fighter-4-arcade-location-test-character-change-confirmations/comments2.html
http://shoryuken.com/content/1729-super-street-fighter-4-arcade-location-test-character-change-confirmations/comments2.html
ThatCrazyGuy
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No more EX green hands knock down? WTF. why would that be needed.
So they fix blanka ball recovery? I hope they fixed it the other way too, so Rog and Sim can't hit him even when it connects.
So they fix blanka ball recovery? I hope they fixed it the other way too, so Rog and Sim can't hit him even when it connects.
OmnipotentO
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"The distance Blanka flies away after a blocked Beast Roll has been cut in half."
this pleases me
this pleases me
TurtleSnatcher
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:lol :lolCaj814 said:
Spirit of Jazz
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Holy shit, I know people on GAF hate Blanka but that nerf is bullshit unless all of Balrog's rush punches and Honda's headbutts become dramatically unsafe. I mean why nerf the one who isn't considered good? :lol
marathonfool
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It does seem drastic to me.Spirit of Jazz said:
Anyways.
the_log_ride
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I wish I were in japan for these loctests... 
I love these changes. So DELICIOUS!
I love these changes. So DELICIOUS!
the_log_ride
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Zissou said:
They can give him DIAF.
sixteen-bit
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Loketest footage pls
Spirit of Jazz
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USD said:
I really doubt a lot of this will be making it into the patch though given how many iterations of characters they go through. In the worst case scenario Gief will still get frame advantage on hit and a mix-up, just won't have the opportunity to jump in.
I'm fucking scared for Abel though given Seth said his final version was his strongest iteration throughout Super's development and it was just Vanilla Abel with a slightly faster sweep and Breathless. Add to this the massive misconception that Abel's suddenly top-tier because people don't know how to deal with his ultra and I'm thinking they'll pull another Gen on me
Waiting for more details on Genei Jin, if the 50% combo includes ultra it's no issue at all.
Spirit of Jazz said:I'm fucking scared for Abel though given Seth said his final version was his strongest iteration throughout Super's development and it was just Vanilla Abel with a slightly faster sweep and Breathless. Add to this the massive misconception that Abel's suddenly top-tier because people don't know how to deal with his ultra and I'm thinking they'll pull another Gen on me
I will stick to Abel regardless (unless I end up liking Yun/Yang).
DryEyeRelief
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Caj814 said:Still awaiting any Makoto changes. . .ah who the hell am I kidding.I don't think anyone is gonna play her during the test. . .
:lol
ehh...they're using hakan. we might hear something about makoto.
the_log_ride
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I would eat cat poop to see footage.
Spirit of Jazz
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Leunam said:
If you're already playing as Abel you shouldn't be so happy about the Blanker nerf, block his balls standing then you can dash and punish them with a step-kick
I think I'll probably end up switching to Haken if he actually becomes legit though as was my intention with Super.
sixteen-bit
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hitsugi said:
I see six poorly photoshoped ones
SUPARSTARX
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marathonfool said:
The Abominable Snowman
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Blanka Balls safe on hit!
Face it Tiger..
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Good news everyone, Blanka is a shadow of his former troll!
the_log_ride
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DIRTY-D said:
All it needs is a little damage reduction.
more feedback from the loketest. taken from Azrael on SRK
Yun:
U1 You Hou, U2 Sorai Rengeki. Super is Genei Jin
U1 is 4-hit, last hit is a launcher. If the first hit connects cleanly, will go into animation. If not, Yun does the other attacks anyway. Very similar to Makoto's U2. Can follow up U1 with Zesshou (lunge punch), or GJ combos. Only if GJ is activated before U1. I tried to activate afterwards, could not get anything to connect in time. Short range, does not hit on any FADC'd moved.
U2 is a punch rush, if the final hit connects cleanly Yun goes into animation where he rides the opponent in the air like a skateboard, then kicks them down to the ground. Similar to Fei Long's U1. Does not combo from any FADC's. Short range.
Genei Jin - shadows, cancel recovery on all moves, everything juggles. Was able to get 40-50% off GJ combos mid-screen, 50-60% in the corner. Can be super-cancelled off Tetsu Zankou (shoulder check).
Kobokushi (palm move) - Jab is a fake, Strong/Fierce change the distance at which the opponent flies away. EX Nishou Kyaku (up kicks) will probably be good anti-air. Ultras do not combo off MK launcher.
Yang:
U1 Raishin Mahhaken, U2 Tenshin Senkyuu, Super Seiei Enbu
U1 Yang throws out a single attack - if it connects cleanly, animation follows. If not, the ultra ends there - similar to Makoto's U1. Animation is sort of like Gen/Guy's, but with Yang style. Close range.
U2 Yang rolls forward and goes up in the air with his rising kick. If Yang connects cleanly on the ground with the roll portion, animation kicks in. If not, Yun goes up in the air with kicks - looks like Yun's Nishou Kyaku. U2 will pass under fireballs. Seems to have some tracking properties - if U2 started while opponent is in the air, Yang will rise up with kicks where the opponent is for non-animation damage. Combos off FADC/MK Launcher for non-animation damage.
SE - Works similar to 3S. Doesn't seem nearly as useful as Yun's GJ of course.
Ryu, Akuma:
If tatsu done in air at or before jump arc peak, becomes floaty and goes nowhere. Can no longer escape corner with air tatsu. Crossup tatsu still works.
Ken:
EX Tatsu can be blocked low. More recovery on jab SRK. Can follow up jab SRK AA with EX Hadouken, just like Ryu.
Chun:
No apparent changes noticed, except sweep doesn't seem to deal as much stun.
Guile:
Damage down, Sonic Boom does not build super meter.
Honda:
Damage down, U2 now HCBx2 motion. May be harder to combo into Hundred Hands.
Bison:
U2 now charge motion, way more recovery
Zangief:
Range on U2 increased, recovery also increased. EX Green Hand doesn't knock down.
Seth:
Dhalsim J.FP gone.
Cammy:
Normals easier to combo, but tiger-knee Canon Strike no longer possible. Can still Canon Strike normally, EX can still be tiger-kneed.
Makoto:
EX Hayate armor break, slightly faster walk speed, axe kicks more like 3S.
Dudley:
EX Ducking added - no armor. Moves the same distance as RH Ducking but recovers almost instantly. Crouch roundhouse different - faster? Not sure how but it is definitely different. J.RH knocks down air to air.
Blanka:
Blocked Blanka Ball now recoils at half the distance, much easier to punish.
Yun:
U1 You Hou, U2 Sorai Rengeki. Super is Genei Jin
U1 is 4-hit, last hit is a launcher. If the first hit connects cleanly, will go into animation. If not, Yun does the other attacks anyway. Very similar to Makoto's U2. Can follow up U1 with Zesshou (lunge punch), or GJ combos. Only if GJ is activated before U1. I tried to activate afterwards, could not get anything to connect in time. Short range, does not hit on any FADC'd moved.
U2 is a punch rush, if the final hit connects cleanly Yun goes into animation where he rides the opponent in the air like a skateboard, then kicks them down to the ground. Similar to Fei Long's U1. Does not combo from any FADC's. Short range.
Genei Jin - shadows, cancel recovery on all moves, everything juggles. Was able to get 40-50% off GJ combos mid-screen, 50-60% in the corner. Can be super-cancelled off Tetsu Zankou (shoulder check).
Kobokushi (palm move) - Jab is a fake, Strong/Fierce change the distance at which the opponent flies away. EX Nishou Kyaku (up kicks) will probably be good anti-air. Ultras do not combo off MK launcher.
Yang:
U1 Raishin Mahhaken, U2 Tenshin Senkyuu, Super Seiei Enbu
U1 Yang throws out a single attack - if it connects cleanly, animation follows. If not, the ultra ends there - similar to Makoto's U1. Animation is sort of like Gen/Guy's, but with Yang style. Close range.
U2 Yang rolls forward and goes up in the air with his rising kick. If Yang connects cleanly on the ground with the roll portion, animation kicks in. If not, Yun goes up in the air with kicks - looks like Yun's Nishou Kyaku. U2 will pass under fireballs. Seems to have some tracking properties - if U2 started while opponent is in the air, Yang will rise up with kicks where the opponent is for non-animation damage. Combos off FADC/MK Launcher for non-animation damage.
SE - Works similar to 3S. Doesn't seem nearly as useful as Yun's GJ of course.
Ryu, Akuma:
If tatsu done in air at or before jump arc peak, becomes floaty and goes nowhere. Can no longer escape corner with air tatsu. Crossup tatsu still works.
Ken:
EX Tatsu can be blocked low. More recovery on jab SRK. Can follow up jab SRK AA with EX Hadouken, just like Ryu.
Chun:
No apparent changes noticed, except sweep doesn't seem to deal as much stun.
Guile:
Damage down, Sonic Boom does not build super meter.
Honda:
Damage down, U2 now HCBx2 motion. May be harder to combo into Hundred Hands.
Bison:
U2 now charge motion, way more recovery
Zangief:
Range on U2 increased, recovery also increased. EX Green Hand doesn't knock down.
Seth:
Dhalsim J.FP gone.
Cammy:
Normals easier to combo, but tiger-knee Canon Strike no longer possible. Can still Canon Strike normally, EX can still be tiger-kneed.
Makoto:
EX Hayate armor break, slightly faster walk speed, axe kicks more like 3S.
Dudley:
EX Ducking added - no armor. Moves the same distance as RH Ducking but recovers almost instantly. Crouch roundhouse different - faster? Not sure how but it is definitely different. J.RH knocks down air to air.
Blanka:
Blocked Blanka Ball now recoils at half the distance, much easier to punish.
Spirit of Jazz
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Leunam said:
Sorry, was just trying to help.
DIRTY-D said:
The nerf is you learning when to jump into or away from Abel in order to avoid it and not doing unsafe moves
It doesn't need a damage nerf because it's there to help him against character with a huge amount of health... Makoto's just collateral damage. To be honest if it has to be nerfed I'd much rather see it be on the recovery front.DryEyeRelief
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