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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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Yeah. I should have been more detailed, I guess. It's really really really bad for her in a corner. I just finished playing a match against a Dudley that was wrecking me really, really hard. Just kept the pressure on INSANE style, and kept putting me in a corner... Hold DB? He'd overhead. Hold back? He'd sweep. Try and tech a throw? He wouldn't throw, and I'd get pwnd. I'd try and ex anything? Wouldn't work, because he'd jab me out, or do something else. It sucked.Threi said:
DarkoMaledictus
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dragonballjoseph said:
10/26/10 $4/320Microsoft Points - Hakan, Makoto, Guy, Dudley, DeeJay
All you needed to say, I'm happy
!hitsugi said:The best part is - we'll still have costumes to pay for with Yun / yang and whoever else!
SSFIV: Dress-up Edition
That's why they refuse to release the PC version because they know you can just mod whatever alts you want. Piracy my ass. Capcom has been around forever and piracy is nothing new to PC gaming. They just feel they won't be able to milk the PC version like they do consoles.
entremet
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MrMephistoX
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Kadey said:
My theory is that they are worried about ghetto ass arcades and net cafes in other parts of the world monopolizing arcade revenue. PC's are much easier to pirate than consoles vs paying $20,000 + for one working arcade cabinet...trust me I've lived in China.
Spiderjericho
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hitsugi said:
Still cheaper than the $20,000+ for the Super SFIV arcade edition UPGRADE!! Capcom is wildin' out.
It's not like the development was Shenmue or GT5 proportions and they're trying to recoup. I'm just going to wait for the all-in-one pack.
AkumaHokoru
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This is the kind of DLC that makes the whole concept look bad.
Spiderjericho
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AkumaHokoru said:
"Manhattan keeps on making it, Brooklyn keeps on taking it, BRONX keeps creatin it and Queens keeps on fakin!"
The worst part is it's not like it's a huge mainstream success. This stuff is being supported by the community, who has supported Capcom for years, and they just treat us like crap.
Honestly, the worst is the arcade edition. They really don't want widespread acceptance of their game. The US is just going to play the console editions. Japan still has a culture where they play in the arcade, and big arcades shouldn't have a problem recouping but how much of a profit will they make?
AkumaHokoru
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Spiderjericho said:
Its not just capcom who gets dlc wrong. Everyone has walked on the side of error and people keep buying it as long as the dlc is brought the practice is justified. for every one of us that realizes something is wrong there are 50 people who dont care and buy it anyway
Lets break down the math on this shall we?
SF4 60 bucks.
SF4 costumes: 320MSP(4 dollars) for 5 packs each(20) 1200(15 dollars) for all 5 at once (giving us either 75 or 80 invested so far)
SSF4 40 bucks 115-120
SSF4 Costumes 320MSP for 7 packs each(28) if you brought them seperately. 1440(18 dollars) 133-148 spent so far
(Another 2 sets are coming. + the new cast are still 1 costume short compared to the rest of the cast so thats another pack added to 2 full release sets)
So its either 15 x 4 (60) or 18x2+4 (40)= $173-$208 capcom will make per player on people who buy all the costumes.
Dont you think thats a little much and with how far they space them out (first costume in october full set 6 months later) people will be tempted to buy them sooner rather than wait half a year to get them all saving 10 bucks. Disgusting. I personally brought the first costume set for Vanilla... I have not brought a single costume pack since and Its highly likely I wont (no matter how awesome juri's new costume is) because this kind of DLC is designed to milk my pockets and I'm sorry but my pockets are drier than the sahara. I honestly feel it costs less to unlock all this shit with a card in the arcade (afterall every 25 wins was a costume on vanilla arcade if not less) than it does for the home versions
Spiderjericho
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I feel you, my ninj. I'm not crazy about Apple or their methods, but I at least wish we could buy the costumes for $1 or 50 cents (cents would be better).
And honestly, it would be nice if they really went knee deep in developing the community with updates (balance, etc), DLC, online tournaments, etc.
And honestly, it would be nice if they really went knee deep in developing the community with updates (balance, etc), DLC, online tournaments, etc.
AZ Greg
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The way they're handling the costumes is obviously not ideal from a consumer standpoint, but I look at it two ways:
1.) Of all the things they could have nickel and dimed us with in terms of DLC, alternative costumes probably have the least impact on the overall fighting game experience. A lot of times with DLC arguments you hear "Well if you don't like it (pricing) then don't buy it!" But in a lot of cases that is easier said than done since the complete experience will sometimes require the DLC. Not in this case thought as these are nothing more than fluff. I haven't bought one alternative costume and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
Like SJ, I do wish they would have released all the costumes separately for like 80 points each, or something like that, so you could handpick the ones you want for a reasonable price and not be stuck with ones you'll get no use out of. But...
2.) This model is obviously making Capcom a decent amount of money otherwise they wouldn't have stuck with it from SF4 to SSF4. And to look at it from a "glass half full" perspective, if this model helps to make SF4 or any Capcom fighting game a more viable business decision and makes it easier for the Capcom executives to give the "OK" on a fighting game project then I have no problem with alternative costumes being the DLC sacrificial lamb.
1.) Of all the things they could have nickel and dimed us with in terms of DLC, alternative costumes probably have the least impact on the overall fighting game experience. A lot of times with DLC arguments you hear "Well if you don't like it (pricing) then don't buy it!" But in a lot of cases that is easier said than done since the complete experience will sometimes require the DLC. Not in this case thought as these are nothing more than fluff. I haven't bought one alternative costume and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
To be fair I don't like any of my main's alts so I can just enjoy the ones I do like whenever I play someone who has bought them for their character.
2.) This model is obviously making Capcom a decent amount of money otherwise they wouldn't have stuck with it from SF4 to SSF4. And to look at it from a "glass half full" perspective, if this model helps to make SF4 or any Capcom fighting game a more viable business decision and makes it easier for the Capcom executives to give the "OK" on a fighting game project then I have no problem with alternative costumes being the DLC sacrificial lamb.
"God's Beard!"
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Nooo, Justin got 5th in WCG Ultimate Gamer :-(
The boy just can't clutch it out, whether it's EVO or reality televion.
The boy just can't clutch it out, whether it's EVO or reality televion.
Spiderjericho
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God's Beard said:
Well, he seems to clutch it out at tourneys, so he'll be alright as #1 US SF player. And the show probably helped to get his name out more.
Greg, I agree. They need to release the costumes individually and for cheaper. I dislike 75 percent of the costumes and wish you could buy them individually. And maybe later, drop the duckets for the all-in-one-pack. My only issue with Capcom is they're not quite getting the whole "DLC" thing. Like, we should be getting balance updates, new backgrounds and characters or new modes. Instead, their model is costumes that are already made before the game is released.
I just got a new laptop and installed my old copy of PC SFIV and started playing that. Too bad
no SSFIV PC."God's Beard!"
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GGs to everybody I fought tonight.
When I beat Greg and jlai right off the bat, I almost shat myself, but Dudfree made a comeback pretty quick after that. :lol
Maybe I'm getting better? I dunno, it's hard to tell if I'm learning strategies or gimmicks. I wish jlai woulda picked rose a couple more times, I need the data bad.
When I beat Greg and jlai right off the bat, I almost shat myself, but Dudfree made a comeback pretty quick after that. :lol
Maybe I'm getting better? I dunno, it's hard to tell if I'm learning strategies or gimmicks. I wish jlai woulda picked rose a couple more times, I need the data bad.
Business model aside it cant be all that hard to please the hardcore fans with balance patches and everyone else with cosmetic updates. Im sure most of us wouls settle for just one update that addresses balance issues. It cant be that damn hard. Its like theyre alergic to the feedback of the user base that represents those of us that will be playing the game for years or at least considerably longer then the casual crowd
God's Beard said:
Oh whoops, shoulda let me know! I rarely use Rose nowadays, only really in the ranbats. Looking for that next character to jump to next..
If I were to critique your game I'd say to throw in some C.LK's instead of overhead all the time on opponent wake ups. Sets up a nice 50/50. Sometimes the overheads were a bit too late too, as I was able to throw you out of them. GGs though!
sixteen-bit
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this is the worst thing ever, but i'm posting it anyway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIziXcIVmN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIziXcIVmN4
KidA Seven
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_dementia said:
I'm surprised people actually like it.
It's beyond horrible.
sixteen-bit
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It's Juri song level bad
Pricing of the alts do not bother me. It's the having to wait nearly half a year to even have the chance of getting mostly mediocre costumes as a whole. I'd be fine if they wanted $100 premium for them all at this moment. Waiting a long time in order to get them all is stupid from a consumer's perspective.
_dementia said:
The Juri song didn't have Tay Zonday in it, though.
Also, the new costumes... are they on the disc again or are they going to issue a patch or something so that we can actually see them? Unless they don't mind the idea that most of the players won't be even seeing the new "cool" costumes.
Uploaded some matches vs Chris. I was getting lit up by Akuma combos for the most part. I knew I have to have patience in order to beat him and I was anything but that night. It was fun playing a non-scrubby Akuma though, ones that spam air fireballs and fireballs in general and run away. I'm well too familiar with those.
Match one
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Match one
Match two
Match three
sixteen-bit
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Why include Zonday of he isn't going to do anything? Missed opportunity IMOFraeon said:
Rocky_Balboa
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Like stated earlier in the thread, FERDI GULER is #1 on the PP leaderboards right now. So checking up on youtube, I found out that he still thinks about me. Apparently he really didn't like the video about his raging that I posted on youtube. Well here is his new YT account since they closed his earlier one (probably because of all the racist messages).
http://www.youtube.com/user/divekroshen
And here is his "About me:" -section:
http://www.youtube.com/user/divekroshen
And here is his "About me:" -section:
sixteen-bit
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his live is internet :lol
People don't like Juri's song? I had no idea._dementia said:
....Unless you're referring to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCutUi2kaY#t=08m28s
KidA Seven
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"requit name or anything else. that is not to let me see but attract"
lol wut
lol wut
sixteen-bit
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