DarkoMaledictus
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God's Beard said:
Still, so much work for so little damage. Makes me think of dudley's fadc combos...
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Still, so much work for so little damage. Makes me think of dudley's fadc combos...
sixteen-bit
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I'm partial to the EX DP FADC infinite loopKadey said:Only in training mode can you do stuff like this.
FindMyFarms
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Kadey said:
What's wrong with easy reversals? If someone makes a conscious decision to perform something, shouldn't they get to do it?
Lost Fragment said:
In all fairness, I think Dan is honestly a bad matchup for Dhalsim, Gale kicks are very hard for him to deal with.
DarkoMaledictus
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FindMyFarms said:
Farms it might be fine offline, but with the strictness of links and internet lag reversals can mean game over for someone trying to do block strings. Not everyone bothers with tourneys, 99% of people fight online and it makes you think twice about doing blockstrings against 3 frame reversal chars...
FindMyFarms
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DarkoMaledictus said:
Yes, that's why you fix the netcode, not the mechanics that are perfectly sound
stabicron7
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FindMyFarms said:
I have more of a problem with auto block myself than the reversal window or the shortcuts. They don't even have to hold back to block once the string starts and its really the only reason they can mash srk in block strings.
"God's Beard!"
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DarkoMaledictus said:
Yeah, but Dudley's FADCs have real uses.
Jet Upper FADC cRH is a good combo off a safe reversal
Ducking Upper FADC Ducking Straight pushes people all the way across the stage.
FindMyFarms
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stabicron7 said:
Lots of games have the continued block feature, it's been around forever. As the attacker though, you determine the gap, and thus where/when can mash that srk out if you think that's what they're going for.
DarkoMaledictus
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FindMyFarms said:
You know as well as I do Capcom will not change the netcode, and even at that 2 bars will still be frequent. Online can never be expected to be like local games...
In any case, I like some other people don't enjoy the randomness and easiness to apply reversals. But that's a matter of opinion and can be discussed all day. Different strokes for different folks...
FindMyFarms
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DarkoMaledictus said:
Ok? So if the game sucks when two people are playing with their eyes closed should capcom balance for that too? Bad online play due to netcode still doesn't make an argument for changing the base mechanics, as the standard (i.e. offline play) is what those mechanics are designed for.
DarkoMaledictus
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God's Beard said:
Yeah, was talking about the juggling ones that add insignificant amount of damage. Ending a combo with ultra makes me cry sometimes... just stopped doing it.
DarkoMaledictus
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FindMyFarms said:
Again, we will just agree to disagree
.FindMyFarms
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DarkoMaledictus said:Again, we will just agree to disagree
Fair enough!
FindMyFarms said:
That doesn't apply here. I shouldn't be force to play a certain way if I wanted to win. Should I bore myself trying to actually win by baiting and punishing with fundamentals or should I go all out and just have fun trying to be stylish? Most of the time, I'll do the latter.
Using some of my latest matches as an example. The ones where I won, I was patience and relied on simple setups and one or two piece punishes. The ones where I lost, I was going for and doing combos and fadc stuff left and right but at certain times I'd easily get mashed out of something. Online scrubs tend to think they are better than they actually are because of easy reversals. Granted this doesn't really apply to to the better players but the amount of mediocre players far outnumber the good so you run into the former way more often.
"God's Beard!"
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Damn, still can't beat Threi in a ft5.
GGs, troll Greg with Vega time was fun :lol
CORKSCREW CROSS DOES NOT BEAT VEGA'S U2 ON REACTION
GGs, troll Greg with Vega time was fun :lol
CORKSCREW CROSS DOES NOT BEAT VEGA'S U2 ON REACTION
sixteen-bit
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In that case I hope you like VF5 and BlazBlue, cuz this game and tekken and many others won't be much fun to you thanks to lagElFly said:
FindMyFarms
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Kadey said:
Why not? That's how it is in every activity, there's a better way to win than others. In street fighter it's reading your opponent and making the appropriate counters. Fancy is a vague term, but to put it into something concrete, in every situation in street fighter, there are options available to each player, and if you want the game to reward the decision making process, then you have to allow the players to perform the options they chose.
ElFly said:
Except in online play there's no standard latency, which is why you design the game for online play. Every game is made that way, not a single game in the market (any platform, any genre) designs their game based off lag since it changes in every game.
"God's Beard!"
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Threi said:oh yeah about that...
i wasn't playing in my char on my monitor like usual, i was slouched over the couch :lol
you caught me when i was recording the gifs. Thats why i left, to switch back to my "play serious" setup
Ironically, after you beat me the first time, I reverted to my MASH EX JET UPPER frustration mode. And I stopped using cMP to punish things for whatever reason. I get salty so fast, and Salty Beard is Scrub Beard.
ElFly said:
Speaking of lag... if any of you haven't seen this shit omg... I'm STILL LOL'ing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-2sqfvIUlY&feature=player_embedded
FindMyFarms said:
I do think SF4 had online in mind with some of the changes they made- I think that's a large reason why the reversal windows are so generous.
Personally, I actually prefer online play- due to my workhours plus a lot of the FGC doesn't really appeal to me.
sixteen-bit
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guiles best movevissione said:
"God's Beard!"
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vissione said:
that's so legit :lol
"God's Beard!"
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cHaotix8 said:
Counterhit SSB FADC U2 works mid screen for like 400 damage.
hitsugi
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FindMyFarms said:
Still waiting for you to accept FT5 bday match
Regarding reversals, I forget that my real gripe is that things that combo aren't safe on blocking opponents... so it SEEMS like reversals are easier but it's an entirely different thing. Online play just seems to magnify things, but that's online play.
FindMyFarms
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hitsugi said:Still waiting for you to accept FT5 bday match
Haha what's this bday match you speak of?
"God's Beard!"
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Aww, apparently that's a real combo and not some lag switch shenanigans ;_;
Just tested it myself.
Just tested it myself.
EraldoCoil
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Floyd puttin Gootecks on blast tonight!!!
Capital_Five
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There is something oddly therapeutic about going into training with some music on and just doing combo's over and over.
Just spent like 2 hours in training mode. Now my Blanka's ultra is throughly ambiguous and my links are perfect. Feeling pretty good about trolling PSN right now.
Just spent like 2 hours in training mode. Now my Blanka's ultra is throughly ambiguous and my links are perfect. Feeling pretty good about trolling PSN right now.
DR2K said:
Hey, what's with the honda hate?Threi said:
Runaway/projectile zonning kill him... if you know the matchup it's not even funny. Infinite sadness indeed.Oh and by the way the only change honda had in the locktest was the ultra 2 motion. Nothing more, nothing else.
EraldoCoil
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Lol....I thought you put the Goo on blast.... :lolMorro! said:
FindMyFarms
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hitsugi said:a couple of pages ago you were having FT5's with the log ride (or it was threi and I'm absolutely crazy) and I said let's do an FT5 cause tomorrow's my bday
Oh shit my bad, musta missed it! We'll run it whenever, happy bday!
What's ur psn?
Lost Fragment
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Mashing reversals between blockstrings is largely an online tactic because if they do that in an offline match, you can hear them mashing. In America at least, since people who are playing usually sit next to each other. Not so sure how it is in Japan, since they usually sit head-to-head.
So anyway, absolute guard isn't the reason you can mash stuff between blockstrings pretty easy. Absolute guard has been around forever. The problem is the lenient reversal window combined with the lenient input system. If those things were the same as they were in ST then it wouldn't be as easy to dp someone between a string.
So anyway, absolute guard isn't the reason you can mash stuff between blockstrings pretty easy. Absolute guard has been around forever. The problem is the lenient reversal window combined with the lenient input system. If those things were the same as they were in ST then it wouldn't be as easy to dp someone between a string.
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