Gen can actually be a really, really annoying footsie character.
But yeah, he still doesn't do any damage.
FindMyFarms said:
Iuno, I always thought viper wake up EX feint was mad good.
Yeah ex feint is actually pretty dirty. It can be exploited for sure, but definitely underused.
DR2K said:
Viper has ex seismo at the very least. Besides Makoto and Viper are about getting in and staying in, Rose is about keeping out and playing footsies. Ultra 2 gave her 1 or 2 chances to get out safely. I guess it had too much invincibility, but completely removing it to the point where you can jab out of it is ridiculous. (reports say Rose U2 was jab fodder in AE)
I guess I probably shouldn't have included Viper in that list because her wakeup options actually aren't completely terrible compared to some characters. Playing Makoto so much has actually made me appreciative of Viper's wakeup options :lol They're all pretty specific to what you think someone's gonna try and do to you on wakeup, though. It's not like DP where you have to completely stop your pressure sometimes because anything but blocking or backdashing gets you tagged. Lots of characters can option select the shit out of Viper's wakeup though. Like Ryu can safejump os dp and Viper
has to block because the os dp will beat everything else.
But yeah, I don't know what it's actually like, but if Rose's U2 only had like 2 frames of recovery so she could be meatied out of it I'd be fine with that too. But Rose is a zoning character, and when you do so much work to finally get her back on the ground but then OOPS U2 BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD...yeah, it's pretty stupid.