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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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sixteen-bit
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none, the next upcoming pack is the full unlock54-46! said:
Lost Fragment said:
People aren't familiar with the matchup. Same goes for Gamerbee. I'm pretty sure if Wong had switched to Balrog he wouldn't have lost.
God's Beard said:
Those are two of the main reasons why he beats Dudley but he has plenty of other tools as well. He can tatsu after fireballs, go for an ambiguous crossup on knockdown, fadc fireballs. He can rush you down better than Dudley can, can zone you better than Dudley can, and can mix you up better than Dudley can.
Kuroda could do it because he had parry to make up for bad normals. There's no cop out in this game.
the_log_ride
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DarkoMaledictus said:
Yeah, I couldn't stand that after a week. Dusted off an old USB keyboard, now it's worlds better...
Lost Fragment
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cHaotix8 said:
Game's been out far too long now for matchup unfamiliarity to be much of an excuse for supposed top players.
MiniBossBattle
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As a Bison player, my worst match up was Guile. So I decided to try to learn Guile and am surprised how easy he was for me to pick up. I love the crouching fierce and hitting someone point blank with a sonic boom and follow it up with a forward fierce is such a good feeling. I guess Guile's fierce is Bison's roundhouse. I play him pretty lame and the majority of the internet don't know how to fight someone who holds down and back.
Any tips for a budding Guile player?
Any tips for a budding Guile player?
sixteen-bit
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I don't think adon is a bad character at all assuming you're capable of executing his tight links
tried a hori ex2 today (first actual arcade stick with regular size buttons), dunno what to think of it. I know it's not arcade quality parts but I don't like how close together the stick and buttons are. I didn't think the stick mechanism was too bad either. Also, is the EX2 considered a light stick? Because its the same weight as my CPSF 
If I had more money I would make another stick out of a VCR case
If I had more money I would make another stick out of a VCR case
Onion_Relish
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Lost Fragment said:
While this would seem to be true, its a simple matter of numbers.
1: How many players are playing
2: How many players are any good
3: How many good players are playing good characters
4: How many players are playing characters considered to be bad
Note I didn't say characters that ARE bad. There arent any bad characters. But as you can see, the amount of match up experience you would have is comparitively small once you get that far down the road. It isnt that you dont KNOW the match up, you simply dont have as much experience, and you never will. This is especially true with a character like Adon who can dramatically change his air trajectories and spacing. At least if you are playing gen you know he isnt going to all the sudden full screen kick you (at least as quickly as adon can)
Personally, i'm glad Justin lost, not because he is a douche or a bad person, but because it shows people that SSF4 is a sufficiently balanced game that those characters you CONSIDER to be bad can still be viable. Even though Bison is my favorite character, I plan on bringing gouken and dee jay out a bit more often now
the_log_ride
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MiniBossBattle said:
Flashkick FADC down+HP+HK
I'm content with just playing guile by strictly zoning my opponent, only because I can't get his damn links down. A rushdown guile is something that I admire greatly.
sixteen-bit
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Yeah, I would consider FS EX2 a light stick. The closeness of buttons relative to the lever are pretty typical on any modern Japanese stick.Threi said:tried a hori ex2 today (first actual arcade stick with regular size buttons), dunno what to think of it. I know it's not arcade quality parts but I don't like how close together the stick and buttons are. I didn't think the stick mechanism was too bad either. Also, is the EX2 considered a light stick? Because its the same weight as my CPSF
If I had more money I would make another stick out of a VCR case
of course notMomo said:
gundamkyoukai
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Momo said:
No.
Yeah, definitely looks like a light stick. You want that heft.Threi said:tried a hori ex2 today (first actual arcade stick with regular size buttons), dunno what to think of it. I know it's not arcade quality parts but I don't like how close together the stick and buttons are. I didn't think the stick mechanism was too bad either. Also, is the EX2 considered a light stick? Because its the same weight as my CPSF
If I had more money I would make another stick out of a VCR case
dragonballjoseph
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No.Momo said:
Lost Fragment said:
Good players usually play in a group of good players, who play characters, who they feel, are capable of winning tournaments. They don't waste their time playing characters who they don't feel that they can win with. Therefore, there are a lot of tournament level players who don't have the same level of experience with characters like Dudley or Makoto as they would with Ibuki.
"God's Beard!"
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cHaotix8 said:
You're a really negative guy, you know?
dragonballjoseph
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Fragment's argument still stands.cHaotix8 said:
B1gg_Randall
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edit:beaten badly lol54-46! said:
"God's Beard!"
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For the record, I think Ryu is one of Dudley's best matchups. Jab ducking straight for fireballs, Corkscrew cross and super as anti-air, just lame it out. I don't do anything unsafe unless I have to, which is the case for a lot of matchups, just not Ryu.
Onion_Relish
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MiniBossBattle said:
As was already pointed out, flashkick fadc glasses will make people salty rushdown you, and with guile that really isnt a problem.
Obviously as guile you NEED to be comfortable in the corner, working on zoning is fine, but the best guiles CAN rush down. Or, I suppose what counts for the guile version of rush down, which is just slowly pushing the opponent into the corner, dropping a few block strings and maybe a psychic flashkick. Being in the corner against a guile is cause for concern, big time
Dexa said:
Godsgarden TV happens every Monday night and it's more of a "show", the focus is on talking about the game/scene and answering questions from the fans, usually one of them plays on Xbox Live for a little while though.
In other words, a restream probably isn't necessary. Anyway, it should be starting any minute @ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/godsgarden.
sixteen-bit
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Now that's a sitcom I would watchKaako said:
God's Beard said:
No, I just know the weaknesses of my character. When you're fighting people who actually play the match up right, not just casual xbox live Ryus, those weaknesses start to surface.
But that's enough Dudley talk. It's not like I'm gonna stop playing him. I just wish he was good enough to win consistently on a high level.
sixteen-bit
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He's more of a community head nowadays but he did participate in the ECT2 and Evo 2010 SSFIV tourneys recentlychriskun said:
Detailed Results
Thanks Seph and Exuro for posting match footage. :]
We'll try something more complex next time.
The built in Tourney mode is excellent, because it moves fast as hell after it's set up. It's too bad that it's 8p, single elimination limited. Judging from the experience of setting up the Grand Final via Endless Battle, we'll have to figure out a more efficient way to do it if we intend to hold every single match with this setup.
Thanks Seph and Exuro for posting match footage. :]
We'll try something more complex next time.
The built in Tourney mode is excellent, because it moves fast as hell after it's set up. It's too bad that it's 8p, single elimination limited. Judging from the experience of setting up the Grand Final via Endless Battle, we'll have to figure out a more efficient way to do it if we intend to hold every single match with this setup.
Onion_Relish
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the_log_ride
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badass... grats to seph again.
so it was best of 5, single elims... no character lock? Any clue when the next ones going down?
GAF SSF4 community is awesome
so it was best of 5, single elims... no character lock? Any clue when the next ones going down?
GAF SSF4 community is awesome
Onion_Relish
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lol at gootecks getting minded by the dan player
BotoxAgent
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damn, missed out on the tourney action...haven't played much SSFIV at all this weekend...suffering a bit of fighting fatigue.
riceandbeans
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cHaotix8 said:
Any character is good enough to win consistently on a high level. The only thing holding you back is you. Put the time into it, practice, and make it happen.
the_log_ride said:
GAF has so many Chun Li's :lol
I feel like maining someone else now.
the_log_ride said:
Correct on all counts.
In a way, a natural extension of how we'd been playing over PSN GAF as of late.
We could have another go in the last weekend of July. Take a little time to better prepare.
the_log_ride said:
It truly is, a pleasure to match against all of you.
I'm sad to not get to meet 360 SSFIV GAF; from the evidence in this thread, another top class group.
BotoxAgent
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riceandbeans said:
lol, yeah. Actually, that's one of the reasons why I started learning Cammy. When I joined Farm's GAF tourney last year, I noticed a lot of chuns and I hate mirrors....so I decided to learn Cammy as an alt.
I ended up not fighting a single chun in that tourney anyway though, lol. Got eliminated pretty quick.
"God's Beard!"
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Ask Danford.cHaotix8 said:
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