Once you get the pad just try running through the trials...but don't worry about difficulty just yet as you will be fighting your nephew.
My buddies has twins that come over and SF is pretty much the only game I have that they can jump into and have fun with...they will play for hours while we watch and laugh.
The problem is, I don't feel like buying 2 SF4fightpads(I already have 4 "standard" controllers as is). Doesn't seem fair if one has a fightpad. :\ Not really worried about the difficulty, was just surprised that I had a lot of trouble with normal NPC's(normal normally means piss easy).
So haven't played SF in ages(when I played it was pretty casual). Bought SSF4(my nephew is staying at my house we like playing fighters) getting the SF4pad tomorrow. From the little I have played the game is hard. :| And the XBOX 360 controller is pretty much worthless. So any tips on starting? I'm having a hard time even beating the game on normal. >__> I'm leaning towards Ibuki. So I'm even having trouble linking up simple combo's that involve crouching and attacks that have the dragon punch motion(am I bad or is it the 360 controller?). I can do pretty much anything if it isn't in a combo though.
The game isn't that hard although you have picked a fairly difficult character to learn but then again target combos are fun. Question though, have you tried any of the trials?
Because trying them and looking them up on youtube are a good way to understand how the combo's work. Other than that you just need to hit training mode and check out forums like Srk and check out eventhubs.com too.
The game isn't that hard although you have picked a fairly difficult character to learn but then again target combos are fun. Question though, have you tried any of the trials?
Because trying them and looking them up on youtube are a good way to understand how the combo's work. Other than that you just need to hit training mode and check out forums like Srk and check out eventhubs.com too.
Yeah I have tried a few trials I can do the majority(of Ibuki's), but when I get it. It seems to be stroke of luck rather than me putting in the proper inputs. What would an easy character be, to get into? I'm not feeling the shouto characters though.
Yeah I have tried a few trials I can do the majority(of Ibuki's), but when I get it. It seems to be stroke of luck rather than me putting in the proper inputs. What would an easy character be, to get into? I'm not feeling the shouto characters though.
I don't want to scare you away from Ibuki but characters like her maybe require a bit more time to fully master than some of the the others. But you could try out using Juri & Cody as characters who are easier to get into.
dash pinwheel doesnt work her dash has too much recovery if she does get blanka it would be for 1 hit and likely wouldnt knockdown which then means she eats another blanka ball while recovering from said pinwheel.
I'm not really sure xD, haven't played juri at all
AkumaHokoru said:
no she cant. welcome to my nightmare
dash pinwheel doesnt work her dash has too much recovery if she does get blanka it would be for 1 hit and likely wouldnt knockdown which then means she eats another blanka ball while recovering from said pinwheel.
Oh I see, guess I'm rolling with blanka each time I get one of those jumpingbackwardstheentiremotherfuckinggamedoingthatstupidassairkickeverytimeigetclose- dudes.
dash pinwheel doesnt work her dash has too much recovery if she does get blanka it would be for 1 hit and likely wouldnt knockdown which then means she eats another blanka ball while recovering from said pinwheel.
Because this game is balanced like shit, create a god like character practically no weakness, and they wonder why 99% of players pick the same character. It just defeats the purpose of a fighting game
Personally, I think that this game is not particularly well balanced, also.
Some characters take a hell of a lot more effort get good with, and even more effort to actually win with than other characters, and in some cases, unless one of the players is amazing and the other is downright terrible, some matchups are extremely difficult for some characters.
I think, though, that my personal problem with this game, is not the character balance, as much as it is the engine itself. With the style of fighting game that Street Fighter is, it just plain and simply does not work, due to the way some of the moves were designed in older, different game engines.
This game is much slower than games like the Alpha series and Street Fighter III, and the jumps are much more floaty. The recovery time on a lot of moves is also a lot longer than the older Street Fighter games.
Back in the older games, to catch a jump in with a shoryuken you had to be either waiting for it, or have lightning fast reflexes and hands. In this game, you have at least 2 or 3 seconds to mash out that input after the opponent leaves the ground, and combined with the oh-so-joyous shortcut system that this game has in it, it essentially makes the one move, along with any characters that use it, ridiculous to fight, as you always have to consider the at some point in the match, they are going to throw out a shoryuken and your entire rushdown game will be killed.
What this basically means for any sort of rushdown character, is that their offense is killed. Try playing Fei Long when you miss one rekka or 3 frame link, and you eat a dragon punch in the face, possibly even sometimes followed up by an ultra since Capcom decided to allow one of the most easy to connect moves in the game to combo into ultra in the easiest way imaginable.
Hell, to bring up Makoto again - one of the main reasons why she is so terrible in this game outside is nerfs to her Karakusa grab and its range, is that she is a pure rushdown character in a defensively built engine. You try to keep any sort of pressure on in this game, and you bet you're going to get a random Ball/Headbutt/Uppercut. Your rushdown is killed instantly, and you lose a good chunk of her mediocre health.
I know a lot of people will probably see this as a rant, so I'll give this post a point:
If you were given the reigns of the next main street fighter game, what changes would you make to the overall engine?
I personally would:
Speed it up
Replace focus attacks with parries from Street Fighter 3
Make throw tech timing much longer, similar to Blazblue when you try to perform a throw in the middle of a combo
Return to 2D
Still, until that style of Street Fighter exists, I think I'm gonna dump SSF4, and wait for BB:CS to release as I'm just plain and simply not able to have fun with it using that characters that I like the most, with the playstyle I like the most, and it's not even due to an overall lack of skill or trying as much as it is the way the game was inherently developed.
Yeah, simple enough in theory, but online lag coupled with repeated mashed lp SRKs is just a complete pain in the ass, and that's not even mentioning the fact that some players like to mix it up with throws, and jabs, and the characters that I play usually lose in a poking war.
I swear I post 5x the amount of average words per post in this thread. Sorry if I piss anyone off with this wall of text.
I'm not really sure xD, haven't played juri at all
Oh I see, guess I'm rolling with blanka each time I get one of those jumpingbackwardstheentiremotherfuckinggamedoingthatstupidassairkickeverytimeigetclose- dudes.
dash pinwheel doesnt work her dash has too much recovery if she does get blanka it would be for 1 hit and likely wouldnt knockdown which then means she eats another blanka ball while recovering from said pinwheel.
First beat his Ryu. Then he counters my T.Hawk with the his T.Hawk. He got his ass handed to him and disconnects. Maybe I should try some non-ranked matches...
Training mode recording. Blanka ball to hold back for 4~5 seconds so it blocks at the earliest moment. +1 on hit is from frame data. Admittedly, it probably only worked because it ended up being near the corner. Still, it's a situation where it works.
Training mode recording. Blanka ball to hold back for 4~5 seconds so it blocks at the earliest moment. +1 is from frame data. Admittedly, it probably only worked because it ended up being near the corner. Still, it's a situation where it works.
in the corner everyone has a punish on bb. when blanka is sitting at the edge of the screen and looking at you juri cant do a fucking thing mid screen fighting against blanka juri gets outpoked period.
Doing that counter vs Blanka online is near-impossible with the input delay.
If I was to fix Juri in a balance patch- what I'd do is make RH Senpusha punish Blanka Balls for 1-2 hits and slightly more damage then Blanka gets chip on the balls, and make her Ultra II easy mode to connect off EX Dive Kicks.
BTW sorry for disconnecting in GAFchat earlier, storm KOed me.
Yeah, simple enough in theory, but online lag coupled with repeated mashed lp SRKs is just a complete pain in the ass, and that's not even mentioning the fact that some players like to mix it up with throws, and jabs, and the characters that I play usually lose in a poking war.
I swear I post 5x the amount of average words per post in this thread. Sorry if I piss anyone off with this wall of text.
There's a lot I can say about your post, but if you think characters are unbalanced because they have the ability to choose between a dragon punch and a throw
one of fei long's basic mixups is to perform a dragon punch or a throw after closing range with a chicken wing
in the corner everyone has a punish on bb. when blanka is sitting at the edge of the screen and looking at you juri cant do a fucking thing mid screen fighting against blanka juri gets outpoked period.
Ran it again, and the corner doesn't matter. You can be mid-stage and being about a halfscreen away is enough. Fullscreen though, yeah, it doesn't work.
Doing that counter vs Blanka online is near-impossible with the input delay.
If I was to fix Juri in a balance patch- what I'd do is make RH Senpusha punish Blanka Balls for 1-2 hits and slightly more damage then Blanka gets chip on the balls, and make her Ultra II easy mode to connect off EX Dive Kicks.
BTW sorry for disconnecting in GAFchat earlier, storm KOed me.
well her u2 is already pretty easy mode once you understand the timing on it.
what I would fix is her counter for 1 i have never seen a counter with 2 gaps in its activation period. most counters are immediately active. juri's counter has a ton of start up and then doesnt actively counter until she starts to extend her arm. THEN as she's extending her arm there is a period where you can hit her and then it becomes active again as she streteches then retracts. once her elbow is bent again you can once again hit her(but then the counter is over) the EX version acts like every other counter in the game normally does
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Ran it again, and the corner doesn't matter. You can be mid-stage and being about a halfscreen away is enough. Fullscreen though, yeah, it doesn't work.
what I would fix is her counter for 1 i have never seen a counter with 2 gaps in its activation period. most counters are immediately active. juri's counter has a ton of start up and then doesnt actively counter until she starts to extend her arm. THEN as she's extending her arm there is a period where you can hit her and then it becomes active again as she streteches then retracts. once her elbow is bent again you can once again hit her(but then the counter is over) the EX version acts like every other counter in the game normally does
First beat his Ryu. Then he counters my T.Hawk with the his T.Hawk. He got his ass handed to him and disconnects. Maybe I should try some non-ranked matches...
NO. We Hawks are the game's primary defense against the shoto epidemic. Without us they'll take over completely.
For the condors of the air. For the divers of the sea. We can't stop until we clown 'em all.
big part of it. he can ball all day on her and there isnt much she can do to outright stop it unless you are willing to take a ton of damage on a guess. not only do you have to guess but you have to time it.
hey guys..sorry to be asking this again but my last post got buried during the daigo match and never got an answer.
i think i may have hit my ceiling as far as this game goes. for the life of me i cant seem to follow the game frame by frame like many of you guys can. does anyone have any tips on slowing the game down a bit? i can perform many of the combos in trial mode 9 outta 10 but when it comes to putting it in use during match i find myself getting a bit too excited and my execution suffers severely. am i at the point where i just simply dont have the hand eye coordination to be able to be "tournament level" good? which i can accept if thats the case but if its something i can work on id be willing to put the time n effort to reach that goal.
