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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT2| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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sixteen-bit
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Yeah, the post on SRK seems shady. I'd love to see new additions, but I don't think we'll see any. Arcade SSFIV is already a massive upgrade over arcade SFIV.Skilotonn said:
Lost Fragment
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arstal said:
At this point, I think the only big thing Makoto needs is a more reliable way to get in and control space. I'm cool with it being a bit hard for her to get in since she's so scary up close, but the risk she has to take to get in is too great.
dragonballjoseph
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It doesn't matter how many characters they add, because Bison will be 6-4 against all of them. ^_^
And is it too much to hope that new characters won't be paid DLC.
And is it too much to hope that new characters won't be paid DLC.
sixteen-bit
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If outfits are paid DLC, you could probably expect characters to be as well. I imgaine it will work like Blaz with the data itself being free so you can play against the character, but the unlock code is premium content.dragonballjoseph said:It doesn't matter how many characters they add, because Bison will be 6-4 against all of them. ^_^
And is it too much to hope that new characters won't be paid DLC.
_dementia said:
I'm positive that that's the case, and it's the safest thing to assume...
People on the net live for this kind of thing - to throw out BS rumors just to mess with people, or throw out things and hope to be right, and get their 15 minutes of fame...
Some things are genuinely leaked though, but it's not like it happens every day...
Lost Fragment said:
I'm fine with the risk being large. It's harder for Honda to get in then Makoto. It's mostly that Makoto's defense is horrible in a game where everyone else has a ton of easymode options.
I'd say make Orochi autocounter jabs and shorts with a special animation or something. (but not stronger hits)
sixteen-bit
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VF-style sabaki will be hilarious. Vinyl scratch sound effect needs to be there too.arstal said:
"God's Beard!"
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_dementia said:
I love VF sound effects. tik tik CHSSSHSSHHHHSH VOOM VOOM VOOM :lol
SSF4 needs a VF5-style commentator.
"What do you think about this match?"
"It looks like player one is doing a good job zoning his opponent"
"UMESHORYUUuuu!!!!!"
"Overhead."
"Dizzy."
"BIG JUGGLEEEEEEE!!!"
"And that's the round."
sixteen-bit
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I would just save money by picking and choose the characters I would want to play.knee said:
Hell, SSFIV could have just been the engine for free and $10 per character and I would have saved $20 because I only play Abel and Adon
LakeEarth said:
The command grab- I use EX command grab with Makoto frequently for it's autoguard to try and land a counter. Honda's command grab is faster also, though I think karakarakusa has more range- karas are sloppy design, which SF4 has a lot of.
Honda's pokes aren't as great as people make them out to be, and Makoto's aren't as bad.
Lost Fragment
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arstal said:
I don't play Honda at all so I might be talking out of my ass here, but I think the big difference is headbutt. While not safe 100% of the time, it's a much better/safer long-range pressure tool than any of Makoto's hayates. Plus he has better walkspeed and pokes.
You're probably right about the defense bit, but Mak's crappy defense never really bothered me that much. But maybe that's just because I play Viper and I'm used to just blocking/backdashing/whatever on wakeup :lol
Whatever the case, if they do end up making balancing adjustments, I think Mak will definitely come out a bit stronger. I think with her the developers erred on the side of caution because it seems like she's the type of character that's easy to come out overpowered.
lol
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I don't care, this guy's channel never gets old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptyZBBaKvek&videos=AQPnbnmeSO8
I don't care, this guy's channel never gets old.
Lost Fragment said:
My feeling is that Karakusa was horribly, HORRIBLY nerfed because it's a guaranteed chance to land U1, and if karakusa was too easy to land, you'd run into guaranteed U1 every round, which they want to avoid.
Why EX Hayate doesn't go through fireballs I'll never understand though.
That and the idiotic logic:
1- Female? Low hp.
2- Small frame? Low hp.
Makoto needs med to high HP and high damage to be effective - as it is right now, she's a high risk-medium reward character that gets destroyed by everyone else simply because she lacks tools to get in. It's sad.
"God's Beard!"
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If they didn't change anything, Q would have over 1700 health after 3 taunts :lol
That's 2 Akumas.
That's 2 Akumas.
On top of that, the ultra isn't too devastating. Last night I was messing around with her, landed the ultra twice in one round and that still didn't put away my Ken opponent.TimeKillr said:My feeling is that Karakusa was horribly, HORRIBLY nerfed because it's a guaranteed chance to land U1, and if karakusa was too easy to land, you'd run into guaranteed U1 every round, which they want to avoid.
"God's Beard!"
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nope.hitsugi said:
Range - AbelTimeKillr said:Seriously, it's ridiculous - most karakusa setups don't do more damage than Abel's tornado throws (outside of U1 anyway) and yet it's insanely inferior in every way possible.
Startup - Abel
Usefulness against throws - Abel
EX version's invulnerability - Abel
Yup, that's pretty much every way.
"God's Beard!"
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Hey, Q was my main in 3s too!hitsugi said:
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
i really dont care much about HPTimeKillr said:My feeling is that Karakusa was horribly, HORRIBLY nerfed because it's a guaranteed chance to land U1, and if karakusa was too easy to land, you'd run into guaranteed U1 every round, which they want to avoid.
Why EX Hayate doesn't go through fireballs I'll never understand though.
That and the idiotic logic:
1- Female? Low hp.
2- Small frame? Low hp.
Makoto needs med to high HP and high damage to be effective - as it is right now, she's a high risk-medium reward character that gets destroyed by everyone else simply because she lacks tools to get in. It's sad.
faster normal Oroshi chops, EX version invincible throughout and better recovery on axe kick and im good
edit: and little hitbox fixes here and there
sixteen-bit
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I consider Q my main in SF3 even though I did better with Urien and RemyGod's Beard said:
he's just so much more of a troll
knee said:
Since I've already received all the ALT1 & ALT2 costumes via purchase & preorders, I would only be willing to pay $20 to basically make SSF4T a full retail price game.
But for that I'd expect:
* the new characters (go Elena!)
* more stages (come back "grassy field during storm" & "New York subway")
* 3 costumes for everyone (including newcomers)
* some promise that this was the end of SF4 expansions
"God's Beard!"
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I call him the breakable wall, the movable object._dementia said:
DasRaven said:
GRASS STAGE
SNOW STAGE
BEACH STAGE
Sir Garbageman
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knee said:
$19.99 sounds about right for everything.
Lost Fragment
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TimeKillr said:I know.
Seriously, it's ridiculous - most karakusa setups don't do more damage than Abel's tornado throws (outside of U1 anyway) and yet it's insanely inferior in every way possible.
But something to keep in mind with karakusa is that Mak has a lot more options after that than Abel does after tt. So I'm cool with it being a bit more vulnerable than tt. I think it could stand to have a little less recovery though.
~Devil Trigger~ said:
Yeah the hitbox on axe kick pisses me off.
I think $20 is about the upper limit they can charge for a downloadable expansion thing. Full 1600 points card, if you start going above that purchasers are gonna drop pretty drastically, I assume.Sir Garbageman said:
Of course they'd charge for extra costumes for the new characters/2nd alts for the Super chars separately.
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Dudley's is.BitchTits said:
riceandbeans
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_dementia said:
More reason why I hate this generation of gaming.
hikarutilmitt
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riceandbeans said:
Better than buying yet another disc for the game. Remember SF2/SF2T/SSF2 on SNES?
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