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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT3| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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Professor Beef
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That aznpulse fellow is something else. Watching him has given me a few ideas for my own Ibuki though.
GGs log_ride and BeHest.
GGs log_ride and BeHest.
Rice-Eater
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Kunohara said:
Are you brand new to SF? Do you understand the mechanics of the game? I'm just curious because when I started playing I mistaken things like lag and "my controller isn't working" for block stun. Maybe you were in block stun so your next move couldn't come out. Maybe you were recovering from your previous move so you can't get your next one out when you want to. If not then ignore then, but if this is the case then these are things that you have to learn to get a better understanding of this game.
Rice-Eater said:
Oh no, believe me when I say that when I push a button, it would take awhile for the move to come out, I wasn't block stunned or anything. After playing each character in arcade mode, I knew how to do special moves fast. Online, even just trying to do a regular punch or kick took 1-2 secs for it to come out. There was a noticeable difference.
I have watched all of the tutorial videos from VesperArcade on youtube. Granted I still can't do crazy combos, but I am learning. I am new to the series yes, although I did play a shit ton of SF2 back in the day. It is nothing like SSF4 though, heh.
The Take Out Bandit
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Kunohara said:
Unfortunately SSF4 online is still highly jank. Just play it for fun, but don't treat it as serious business.
It's a shame developers have taken to the lame cell phone bars method of illustrating lag rather than relevant information that online gaming has used for years on the PC, meaning PING TIME. Reducing the massive ping range to a meager five bars really makes it difficult to accurately determine a players connection speed.
I've run into matches where I press buttons and nothing comes out as well. In addition to matches where I attempt to throw a crouching opponent next to me and completely miss.
The lag online is so bad, I mistook some of these accidents for actual changes to the fundamental game play.
It's a bummer that the current market leader in fighting games is also so crap at online programming.
Here's the part of the dance where people come in and say it's my connection. Which I'll freely admit isn't all that great, but it's perfectly fine for BlazBlue. The bottom line is I have to roll with DSL because the alternative (cable) did not work at all when I tried it. That's the joy of having so much of our telecommunication infrastructure in the hands of so few corporations.
The Take Out Bandit said:
See that really is a shame because even though I lost, it was really fun to play against other people instead of the CPU. If there was no lag during play, I would be fucking addicted as shit to it. I have a 25mb down 7mb up connection, so I know it's not me.
I guess I'll just keep at it. It will make getting threepeat, tenpeat etc alot harder though.
The Take Out Bandit
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Kunohara said:
I can agree.
I don't play fighting games against the CPU, so it's either don't play or deal with some shenanigans. :\
You can still get random good connections, so look forward to that.
the_log_ride
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Kunohara said:
What kind of monitor are you playing on?
ThatCrazyGuy
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I have a 1.5 MB up connection and I don't have that many problems with SSF4. I have a few laggy matches of course, but most are playable, and some very smooth.
VF5 runs good on my connection as well, as does BB.
MVC3 and Tekken 6 run like crap, but those have crap netcode.
Maybe check your router? I turn off my computer most of the time when I play online as well.
That reminds me, I have to pay for a better connection.
VF5 runs good on my connection as well, as does BB.
MVC3 and Tekken 6 run like crap, but those have crap netcode.
Maybe check your router? I turn off my computer most of the time when I play online as well.
That reminds me, I have to pay for a better connection.
Square Triangle
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So after buying MVC3 I found a new love for fighting games, previously the only other fighting games I ever bought were Killer Instinct gold and Super Smash Bros. If I pick up SSFIV will I get my ass handed to me? Does it have a deeper learning curve than MVC3?
the_log_ride said:
I've only played 3 games, so I can't really judge yet if the online is terrible, but I have heard things about it.
And I play on my TV. Don't know if that was meant as a joke considering you guys were just talking about the monitors used at EVO
Also, I really don't like playing charge characters. I can't ever fucking pull off any moves that are like Guile's flash kick. It really annoys me. I've read up on shortcuts, but I have a lousy memory and always forget about them.
A fighting game's learning curve is only as steep as its competitive community makes it. If the game is worth a damn, the learning curve will always be steep. Don't worry about any perceived gradients and just play the game and have some fun with your friends, which is easy to do, if you allow it. You can find it on Amazon for less than 20 dollars.
Teknopathetic
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"So after buying MVC3 I found a new love for fighting games, previously the only other fighting games I ever bought were Killer Instinct gold and Super Smash Bros. If I pick up SSFIV will I get my ass handed to me? Does it have a deeper learning curve than MVC3?"
You'll get your ass handed to you simply because people have been playing SSF4 for 2-3 years now. That's a huge head start, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try it anyway. The learning curve isn't really any steeper or shallower.
You'll get your ass handed to you simply because people have been playing SSF4 for 2-3 years now. That's a huge head start, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try it anyway. The learning curve isn't really any steeper or shallower.
the_log_ride
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Kunohara said:I've only played 3 games, so I can't really judge yet if the online is terrible, but I have heard things about it.
And I play on my TV. Don't know if that was meant as a joke considering you guys were just talking about the monitors used at EVO
Also, I really don't like playing charge characters. I can't ever fucking pull off any moves that are like Guile's flash kick. It really annoys me. I've read up on shortcuts, but I have a lousy memory and always forget about them.
Just wondering. I first played on a big hdtv, and the input lag was unbearable. Trying it online was even worse. 'Just saying.
FindMyFarms
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Rice-Eater said:
Yeah Jose is actually in grad school in michigan right now, so he doesn't travel but I know he goes to all the michigan/ohio tourneys. I forgot what it was, but he was recently at that tourney w/ the wolfkrone/flash fiasco.
edit - Mr. TEKNOPATHETIC did you get my pm about >>this<< ?
black_vegeta
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Happy Phantom said:
No no sir, you are mistaken.
It's Vanilla, Chocolate, Strawberry...Street Fighter 4: Neapolitan Editionz
AkumaHokoru
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no you are quite wrong. so says the rest of the sf community.
AkumaHokoru
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Then you havent been paying much attention.Happy Phantom said:
the_log_ride said:
Oh ok. I don't have a problem with playing offline, so my tv seems to be fine. I also play with the 360 controller, and I am severely tempted to buy a stick or pad, but I have a feeling I'll get buyers remorse. Playing with the d-pad is starting to get a little annoying, especially for charge characters like I mentioned before.
AkumaHokoru
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because capcom is totally the mecca of street fighter talk. have you actually read half the shit they talk about in capcom? come on man.
AkumaHokoru
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read your logs again.Happy Phantom said:
AkumaHokoru
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wow you took that seriously...I meant capcom is not discussing sf nearly as much as they discuss random shit so it isnt exactly SF central.Happy Phantom said:
ah, misread. Of course it's not just SF but it's a good sample of the community and they discuss that shit pretty frequently.AkumaHokoru said:
Maybe it's just the aspects of the community I participate in that doesn't really use those terms. On here it's very rarely referred to in those term, #capcom as well. I guess that leaves SRK which I don't really check and streamchats, which I hope don't represent the community ;p
Rice-Eater
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the_log_ride said:
Oh yeah, I forgot all about this. My first time playing SF4 was on my big 50 inch plasma. I wasn't serious yet and just played for fun. I didn't notice a thing back then. My PS3 died and I got SF4 for my PC. I played it on a ACER H233H, which has minimal lag. I didn't know that when I bought it, I just got it because I thought it looked nice. I played that for a little while until I got my PS3 fixed. Lets just that the first couple of days on my plasma was practically unbearable, I was raging so hard. That's when I started doing some research and found out about TV lag.
So basically it does matter. I guess that's not your problem Kunohara, but take it into consideration if you're not playing on anything other then a CRT or a recommended monitor.
the_log_ride
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Yeah, Rice-Eater, exactly. That's why I was asking Kunohara, but he still didn't say what he's playing on exactly, heh.
sixteen-bit
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That Samsung should have a "game mode" to reduce lag by a bit.
Alternatively, try playing the Xbox over VGA, as I don't think Samsung TVs do postproscessing for that input (at least mine doesn't).
Alternatively, try playing the Xbox over VGA, as I don't think Samsung TVs do postproscessing for that input (at least mine doesn't).
the_log_ride
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_dementia said:
And that's why I asked. what _dem said is correct. Find the option for game mode on that sucker, and you'll be able to tell a bit of difference.
black_vegeta
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the_log_ride said:
Kunohara said:
As I mentioned before, mine has a Game mode. When I first got my Samsung, I noticed the lag, once I found out there was a "Game" mode...it was night and day.
I noticed a huge difference.
Note that Game Mode doesn't always remove all post-processing. Sometimes Game Mode just sharpens the picture WITHOUT affecting input lag.
Also, I am proud to announce that I am formally sponsoring ARK Chaotix for A.R.K. III. He will get his entrance + SSF4 tournament fees paid for as well as a keg fee if we have it. Also, I am putting $10 on him over Team White Trash TostitoSalsa in Smash 64.
Also, I am proud to announce that I am formally sponsoring ARK Chaotix for A.R.K. III. He will get his entrance + SSF4 tournament fees paid for as well as a keg fee if we have it. Also, I am putting $10 on him over Team White Trash TostitoSalsa in Smash 64.
Pop On Arrival
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Calling Super Chocolate or strawberry is fucking dumb and people should stop doing it. Goodness.
KidA Seven
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Pop On Arrival said:
Yeah I don't like it either, but I'm biased because Vanilla is my favorite ice cream and I hate chocolate and strawberry.
sixteen-bit
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overhead reset into overhead resetbiosnake20 said:
I RESPECT DAT
black_vegeta
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_dementia said:
I used to do that, people would mash ultra during dat overhead. >_>
Square Triangle said:
Does the pope shit in the woods?
Yes, it has a slightly deeper learning curve. Because it wasn't dumbed down to A/B/C/S (er-L/M/H/S) system that MvC3 uses. SSF4 uses the traditional L/M/H P/K system that it and the versus series (MSHvsSF, XMvsSF, MvC, MvC2, SNKvsCap, SNKvsCap2) used before TvC and MvC3.
That's not say "DERP IT'S HARD TO GET INTO" but the FADC and all that is probably going to blow your mind for a bit.
Also expect it to be slower than Marvel.
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