Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)

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In Canada we have advance polls open for several days before election day, does the US not have that?
For primaries, no.

In the general election, it varies from state to state (and county to county, in some cases). The Republicans generally try to restrict early voting as much as possible.
 
For primaries, no.

In the general election, it varies from state to state (and county to county, in some cases). The Republicans generally try to restrict early voting as much as possible.

It does exist for primaries, at least in Texas. I voted last Wednesday.
 
Just move elections to a Saturday like the majority of the world does. Yes many still have to work on weekends but most work Monday through Friday 9-5 jobs

So just screw those that have to work on the weekends? If they wanted their voice to count, get a real job?

The crazy thing is, you don't have to do that! Mail in voting, early voting fixes these problems and doesn't leave anyone in a difficult spot. It's already being done in some states.
 
Varies on a state by state basis. Some states will have polls open for 3+ weeks, some less than a week. Oregon for example conducts all voting by mail, so you just mail the ballot back in after you fill it out (you can't even physically vote in person).

There are ballot boxes if you don't have a stamp. That's as close as we get to voting in person. All Oregonians with a mailing address are also automatically registered to vote.
 
So just screw those that have to work on the weekends? If they wanted their voice to count, get a real job?

The crazy thing is, you don't have to do that! Mail in voting, early voting fixes these problems and doesn't leave anyone in a difficult spot. It's already being done in some states.

I work weekends and I didn't take offense to his comment .. it makes sense to move it to when the majority of people are off. You're never going to make everyone happy, you might as well try and make the most amount of people you can happy tho.
 
Some of us aren't Dems to begin with, so we aren't pretending. A lot of us are tired of the centrist policies and near constant capitulation and gave up on them. Sanders (who let's not forget isn't a Dem either) running gave us the opportunity to push for him on a national election, so we did.

Then you got to build something. And history shows policy is always coopted or adopted into one of the two major parties.

We don't have a parliamentary system, and political moments fail outside of Reformation movements. History needs to be accounted for if we want a more progressive government.

Anything else is really just ego tripping and yelling at the trees. Which isn't really serious support of changing the CW.
 
I work weekends and I didn't take offense to his comment .. it makes sense to move it to when the majority of people are off. You're never going to make everyone happy, you might as well try and make the most amount of people you can happy tho.

The second line in the quote you commented explains how to make everyone happy though. And it is something that is being done right now in the United States.

We need to get rid of this idea of an election DAY, and just make it election season. Like tax season.
 
The second line in the quote you commented explains how to make everyone happy though. And it is something that is being done right now in the United States.

But many people don't do it, and yes I know that's their fault, they have options, but they won't. So you need to lead a horse to water so to speak.
 
You are taking the conversation off topic,

Did I say the religious black vote affected prop 8 in California??? Where did that even come from???

You're probably right ... I'll drop it.

You seemed to imply the religious black vote might affect Bernie's performance in SC because they're not as socially liberal. I'm pointing out that this scapegoat has proven to be false before.
 
Cmon Bernie...
I would gladly vote for Hilary in the general tho

At this point its unsurprising that Trump is most likely getting the nom.

Basically how I feel. I want Bernie more than anything, but I'll take Hillary if he isn't the nomination.

I find that polls showing that if they can't have Bernie that they want someone Republicans... that makes no fucking sense to me. How do you have that kind of leap in fucking logic?
 
So just screw those that have to work on the weekends? If they wanted their voice to count, get a real job?

The crazy thing is, you don't have to do that! Mail in voting, early voting fixes these problems and doesn't leave anyone in a difficult spot. It's already being done in some states.

Yea I think mail-in voting and automatic registration would really fix all the problems but no one wants to do it. We make it so hard to vote when it should be as easy as possible but unfortunately voter suppression is a political tactic now (guess it's always been)
 
Basically how I feel. I want Bernie more than anything, but I'll take Hillary if he isn't the nomination.

I find that polls showing that if they can't have Bernie that they want someone Republicans... that makes no fucking sense to me. How do you have that kind of leap in fucking logic?

Its basically "fuck the establishment at all costs".
 
You're probably right ... I'll drop it.

You seemed to imply the religious black vote might affect Bernie's performance in SC because they're not as socially liberal. I'm pointing out that this scapegoat has proven to be false before.

I simply put out a hypothetical. I'm not saying that the majority of African American should support Bernie or Hillary. The reality is that Hillary is absolutely crushing Bernie with African American Voters. I believe this disproportionality does not make sense when you just look at policy. I would expect the split to be more even.

I brought up the question as to whether religious affiliation could play a role. African Americans are much more religious than white democrats.
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/01/30/a-religious-portrait-of-african-americans/

I'm simply wondering if Bernie's lack of Christian affiliation is something that is hurting him. I'm not saying it is, simply wondering. It is just something I haven't heard people talk much about in the democratic side at all, when it is something that comes up all the time on the right.
 
So the real contest..

Which candidate get's the most 2nd place victories!

On the GOP side obviously. Bern already has that on lock.
 
I find it genuinely hilarious to hear the Republican establishment pretend like they haven't been the party of racists for years.

They've told themselves the lie that they're not really racists so much that they believe it. Anything involving race is just identity politics that some DemocRAT started up because the Party of Lincoln would never stoop to actual racism.

What I find fascinating is what might happen when the first conservative writer at NRO or somewhere suggests that maybe they did court racists a bit too much. The cognitive dissonance of the commentariat will be over nine thousand.
 
Texas is the state to watch tonight for the GOP.

If this man wins, he has an excuse to stay in.
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Guys, let me paint you a picture with words...

At the end of the primaries, both parties announce their candidates. Hillary Clinton beat out Sanders by such a small margin that experts are saying it was the coin toss that decided it. Somehow Cruz pulls ahead of Trump and wins the nomination. In the face of defeat, Trump announces he is creating a new political party called "The Trump Party" with their mission statement of "Make America Great Again" and he will be running for President under this party. Sander's realizing that now is his chance, decides to run as an Independent.

Suddenly America has four popular candidates running for President basically eliminating the two-party system. It wouldn't even matter who wins, our political system would see a much needed change and hopefully the break of the two-party system would last to the next election.

One can dream, but of course this won't happen, because this is America.
 
Guys, let me paint you a picture with words...

At the end of the primaries, both parties announce their candidates. Hillary Clinton beat out Sanders by such a small margin that experts are saying it was the coin toss that decided it. Somehow Cruz pulls ahead of Trump and wins the nomination. In the face of defeat, Trump announces he is creating a new political party called "The Trump Party" with their mission statement of "Make America Great Again" and he will be running for President under this party. Sander's realizing that now is his chance, decides to run as an Independent.

Suddenly America has four popular candidates running for President basically eliminating the two-party system. It wouldn't even matter who wins, our political system would see a much needed change and hopefully the break of the two-party system would last to the next election.

One can dream, but of course this won't happen, because this is America.

That won't do anything to break the two-party system. There's systematic changes that would need to be made, what you're describing wouldn't do it.
 
Yea I think mail-in voting and automatic registration would really fix all the problems but no one wants to do it. We make it so hard to vote when it should be as easy as possible but unfortunately voter suppression is a political tactic now (guess it's always been)

Most states these day have early voting, at least in the GE. This map is from 2012:
 
Curious to see if John Oliver and David Duke will have any effect on Trump's numbers today.
Nobody voting for Donald Trump watches Last Week Tonight (which has a fairly small audience, anyway).

For trivia fans, if, as appears to be the case, this is a Trump vs. Clinton election, this will be the sixth election in American history where both the major-party candidates were from the same state, and the first since 1944 (and the same state in both cases, New York).

The other elections were 1860 (Illinois) (worth noting that in 1860 there were four major-party candidates, so it's not quite the same), 1904 (New York), 1920 (Ohio), and 1940 (New York again).
 
I just wish WA had more dropboxes to place your ballot. I feel like the coverage could and should be better.

I vote every time and in every election because of voting by mail. I'm weird in that I find it fun to go get voter's guides from The Stranger and a few other places and Google/LinkedIn stalk the candidates for a bit before making my vote.
 
I just wish WA had more dropboxes to place your ballot. I feel like the coverage could and should be better.

I vote every time and in every election because of voting by mail. I'm weird in that I find it fun to go get voter's guides from The Stranger and a few other places and Google/LinkedIn stalk the candidates for a bit before making my vote.

too bad you have to caucus this year in WA.
 
I just wish WA had more dropboxes to place your ballot. I feel like the coverage could and should be better.

I vote every time and in every election because of voting by mail. I'm weird in that I find it fun to go get voter's guides from The Stranger and a few other places and Google/LinkedIn stalk the candidates for a bit before making my vote.

You can mail them, There are many drop boxes, I mean sure you might have to drive 10 minutes if you are not willing to put it in the mail.
 
I just wish WA had more dropboxes to place your ballot. I feel like the coverage could and should be better.

I vote every time and in every election because of voting by mail. I'm weird in that I find it fun to go get voter's guides from The Stranger and a few other places and Google/LinkedIn stalk the candidates for a bit before making my vote.

Yea, the fact that you have to pay for a stamp is kind of weird.

too bad you have to caucus this year in WA.
The caucus is kind of screwing with me, I can't find a babysitter for that day.
 
Oh the poll I saw was not based on candidate support as the metric, but policy I believe.
African americans are still pretty religious and socially conservative.

In any case, apart from a few issues, Sanders is to the left of Hillary. that is pretty undeniable. Though you are fair to say that support of candidate is not perfectly correlated with views as people vote for things other than policy stances.

Clinton makes an effort to communicate with various black communities directly. I've not seen that from Sanders.

Also supporting Clinton is still a left wing thing.
 
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