Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)
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gutter_trash
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remember the pledge, it goes both ways, GOP
SolidSnakeUS
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Clinton v Trump debates will being in highest ratings for a debate ever.
I'm a Bernie guy, but I will admit, Clinton will annihilate Trump in debates.
BoboBrazil
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remember the pledge, it goes both ways, GOP
a Trump independent run if they try to rob him of the nomination would be so sweet
balladofwindfishes
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Which is good. More people being engaged in politics is a good thing.
Dude!
The Democratic line to vote was a mile long compared to the Republican line! I've never seen so much democratic support.
Good Job Bob
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Being engaged in politics =/= wanting to see what silly thing Trump does next.
excelsiorlef
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Didn't say she was perfect. But the story out of South Carolina is she showed up, Sanders didn't.
You just know he'd cut a promo and tear that pledge up on stage if they tried to fuck him over, then Christie would come out and cut another promo, and people would love it.
To be fair, they were telling him to lose the girlfriend because of her values, not who she voted for.
Given that serious relationships are often based on shared values, that's not an entirely unreasonable piece of advice to give.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I would literally vote for an albino squirrel with a rifle and a cigar over Donald Trump. I'd vote for chewing gum over Donald Trump. We got your back no matter who the Dems nominate
Probably, but it's not like anything Hillary has to say will matter one way or the other. It probably is more important that she avoid saying anything to piss off her base than it is to win an argument with Trump, because that's literally impossible and irrelevant to Trump supporters.
At the polls, sure. In the debates, eh.
Clinton was a rock during the latestBenghazi hearing, she isn't likely to be phased by Trump's zingers and insults as much as his Republican cohorts were.
I'd like to see how Trump's bully-mode will play in a debate against Clinton. I can't see him shouting her down like he did with Rubio and Jeb.
Good Job Bob
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Trump will flip the script and be completely courteous and reasonable in debates during the GE.
She's been dealing with them since the early 90's so no, I doubt she'll break as easily as the republican field did.
BFIB
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I'm not so sure. All Trump has to do is make the usual "I'm annoyed" face, then shoot back with some rhetoric that he's been spewing.
The guy doesn't have an eloquent bone in his body. I can't see him sounding like anything but an idiot. And it's better to sound like a raging idiot than a calm idiot like Carson.
BoboBrazil
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During the GE debates he'll have to do more than just attack and yell. He'll have to detail plans and policy. If he takes the stance he does now in those sorts of debates I can see independents tuning him out.
Trump falls apart on substance in debates unless he's talking about trade. Primary debates work better for him because they are less structured and are easier to slide in insults. The GE debates aren't built for ratings like the primary debates are, so Trump will have to actually be more substantiative on issues.
She's not a particularly great debater (or campaigner really), and being a rock during a debate isn't exactly an appealing quality for a debate.
I'm sure she'll do fine ultimately, but if you think she's going to decimate Trump doing the debates, you may be in for a surprise. The media wants a shitshow (hi CBS!) and they'll certainly do what they can to get one.
I don't particularly either way, as watching the debates are pretty insufferable if you halfway follow politics.
How do you not see independents turning him down already after everything he's said so far? He's not going to do a 180 on all the horrible shit he's promised so far. If anything he'll just detail how he's going to pull it off.
And people say Bernie supporters are full of wishful thinking. Oof.
The media may want a shitshow. But when it comes to voting on a President I'm sure a lot of people won't buy that act. You gotta do more than attack and yell. You gotta detail policy. If Trump brings this to GE debates I can assure you plenty of moderate republicans won't buy that shit.
Yeah, it's a helluva lot easier to blend-in with a debate field of 5 people than it is to perform at the high level required of a two-person debate. If he tries any of his usual vague circus bluster while Hillary is detailing relationship dynamics among the various tribes in {insert region here}, the Dems will be able to paint him as wholly unprepared and unequipped for the job.
I can see him changing stance, I can't see him changing how he gets his stances accross. He'll repeat the same short soundbites over and over again at the top of his voice and end every point with "We'll make america great again".
Our relationship is troublesome. She broke it off a few times due to me being anti-religion. She claims there can only be one God, and since I did not see the light of her God I had to go.
I've made a few threads about it. We don't share the same religious values or political values
It's a trainwreck. Not for this topic..
balladofwindfishes
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That no longer works in the GE.
I don't think it will work, but I think that's what he'll do.
Still good to vote. Who knows, maybe we'll be a swing state in coming years.
The Lamonster
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Trump should be interesting to watch because he's kind of caught between a rock and a hard place if he wins the nomination. On one hand, he should keep doing what made him so successful, but on the other hand, that tactic doesn't quite work in a general election. He'll be forced to pivot and it's up for debate whether or not a new approach will help or harm him in the polls.
vainglorious
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Hillary is one of the strongest debaters in American politics. What are you talking about?
MA allows independents to participate in the primaries. You can only choose between the parties however, not both.
It is good to vote but I know you didn't type that with a straight face.
If Trump has shown anything, it's that he'll grandstand and do what he wants regardless of what the effect is. If the GE starts going differently than the primaries are I expect him to just double down on what he's already doing.
BoboBrazil
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Trump press conference announced for tonight at 9pm est. Timing is interesting.
Fenderputty
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Yes it is.
Tesseract
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Tremendously
vainglorious
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Come through queen.
I can understand people voting Clinton in the general, but going for her now is only slightly more progressive than going for Rubio or something. Sure she's progressive on social issues, but unless you are a rich 1%er who benefits from the the belittlement, abuse and devaluing of the common, middle-class man, she really doesn't have your interests in mind.
Also, a more general question, why do people call her "queen"? This level of worship is bound to create a personality cult that even Stalin would envy.
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