I've never heard any criticism of his characterization before. What do you mean?
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Superman is coming to Supergirl in Season 2
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I've never heard any criticism of his characterization before. What do you mean?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Supergirl bombed hard enough that they had to move the show to Vancouver and also change networks. I'm not sure how you spin that as a positive.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
It still gets better ratings than Agents of Shield? Just not good enough ratings for CBS, the top network on television?
And Agents of Shield had the spinoff show it spent its last few episodes setting up canceled before it even went into production? And it got moved to the bad 10PM ABC timeslot because it's been hemorrhaging viewers?
You chose poorly here, friend.
Maddocks
Member
No, Matt Bomer is from White Collar.
Unless they mean Gabriel Macht, who is also on Suits, that could work, I mean suits also films in Vancouver. So it wouldn't take long for them to film his scenes and take up to much of his time to allow him to be Superman and Harvey on Suits.
broncobuster
Banned
Suits? You're mistaking him for Dule Hill.
Of all shows to critzice you pick the one that has been the most open in its developments. We know exactly why the show moved and much more. They aren't trying to save it as much as correct their mistakes from S1.
MisterHero
Super Member
He already played Superman officially in some foreign commercials
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Another +1 for Welling.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Honestly, they avoided Superman as much as possible in S1 - and I don't follow any of the actual news with the show, so I have no idea if that was DC telling them they weren't allowed or if they just wanted to troll the audience by having Clark send texts to Kara or have Superman appear as a pixel in that episode where he's brainwashed, but for whatever reason they wanted to keep Superman away from Supergirl. My comment is that with the change to a new network, they're clearly trying to do something to make the show buzzworthy, and having Superman appear is pretty much the biggest thing you can do to attract the attention of people who may have written off the show.
And I'm not even sure why there would be any defensiveness, because my actual point is that DC cares enough to let its shows do their thing whereas Marvel is just content to let Agents of Shields reach 5 seasons before killing it and putting it out of its misery. I'm saying that DC is at least trying, whereas Marvel/Disney is giving up.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
So DC isn't really serious about their cinematic universe huh?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
They keep hiring Snyder, so clearly not.
They were still doing that to Flash and Arrow back in 2014 and based on how they couldn't show Superman on Supergirl it's pretty clear it was still in effect last year.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
What is it about his characterization that sucks? Please elaborate.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The "doing that" I'm referencing is having two versions of the same character existing on TV and in theaters simultaneously.
They did that in 2006.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Wasn't Zach Levi once being considered for Supes?
I will never be able to picture it. Well, maybe not never, but it's a really unexpected choice.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
lmao
Bobby Roberts
Banned
A ton of actors have been considered since Cage & Burton bailed out.
Cavill tried out for McG's version (FlyBy) but didn't make the cut. Brendan Fraser was seriously considered (I believe he was Abrams' choice)
Josh Hartnett was being looked when Batman vs. Superman was first being floated.
So was Jude Law (Hartnett would have faced off against Bale (pre Begins) and Law vs. Colin Farrell)
DJ Cotrona had it in Justice League Mortal but the entire project fell apart
Ashton Kutcher almost got it, but was beat out by Matthew Bomer when Brett Ratner was going to pick up McG's pieces on FlyBy but WB decided to go w/ Superman Returns & Singer instead.
They tried to give it to Will Smith but he turned it down shortly after coming off Wild Wild West.
Paul Walker apparently had it at one point, but turned it down? It was around the same time he was trying to be Anakin Skywalker, I think.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Sorry I misunderstood you. It's not like DC will never let a film and TV show character exist at the same time (obviously it's happening right now with the Flash) but DC can be pretty restrictive on having the same characters existing in both TV and movies at the same time. It pretty famously happened to most Batman characters on Justice League and Justice League Unlimited: http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-embargo
Yeah, i think so.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
He's not a bad choice to be honest, but isn't Grimm still airing?
He is short for Supes, but that's easy to work around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_yMIU7TVA
Had no clue he tried out for Man of Steel and being compared to Cavill during the process lol
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I think it's a good call. They have him in this show universe. They need to address him as a person and not talking around it or via computer chat.
Oh and he's so going to get Killed in the big crisis crossover event
Oh and he's so going to get Killed in the big crisis crossover event
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'm curious as to how his costume's gonna look. Will it look just like Kara's, but with long pants? Will it be a little closer to the current comics? Will it basically be the Man of Steel suit but with the Supergirl S on it? Will there be any yellow in there?
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Christ. I was aware of just a few of those like Cotrona, Bomer and Cavill for FlyBy.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Well you asked for it, This takes into account One, Two and Returns.
He's a Sociopath
-Superman's character, alpha, charming, confident.
-Clark is, beta, clumsy, socially awkward.
-Superman willingly gets rid of his powers giving up the superman personality conceding to a life as Clark so he could be with Lois.
-The above illustrates that both personalities are fictions. If Clark is the real personality he wouldn't be able to adopt the Charming and Confident personality as he goes around as Superman. If Superman is the real personality he'd kill himself before conceding to a life time as Clark.
-Being a sociopath is the only way to reconcile his personas.
-He strait up murders a depowered Zod and Non and has a laugh about it with Lois.
-After consummating their "love", he erases Lois' memory. Her Memory, a person's most intimate possession and one thing that can't be normally be taken from you, and he does it without discussion or permission.
-He stalks Lois incessantly after coming back from his trip to Krypton's remains even though he erased her memory.
He's ultimately Selfish
-Early into the first Superman Movie, there is a very touching scene in which Superman/Clark learns the harsh lesson he can't save everybody when Jonathan Kent dies of a heart attack.
-Cut to the end of the movie, Lois is killed by the fallout of Lex's real estate scheme.
-Based on the "can't save everybody lesson" Superman/Clark should have laid Lois to rest and moved on to helping the other people victimized by Lex's scheme.
-He doesn't do that though, instead he's says fuck that lesson from earlier in the movie and travels backwards through time to save Lois, AND ONLY Lois from Lex's real estate scheme.
-He gives up his powers to be with Lois.
-After getting his powers back he decides Lois' hot V and her love weren't worth it and erases her memory.
Be true to your heart, you only truly care about the last question.
Discotheque
Banned
these are all questionable writing decisions but at the end of the day Reeves had such a good personality in the suit. And the contrast with his Kent was great too. He really sold the disguise so well.
It would be nice to get another charming superman again. That's all I want. Superman needs a PR manager when he resurrects in the next movie.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I like that you immediately spotted the only real concern of mine in that list.
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