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Superman Returns gets standing ovation at Comic Con 2005

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ManaByte

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Simo said:
Isn't there also a line from Martha Kent thats a nod to Donner's film when she tells Clark "Not even you can stop the Earth from spinning?" or something along those lines? :D

Yes and there's a scene where Clark is looking at a framed photo of Ma and Pa Kent and they're the ones from Donner's film. It also uses the same Kryptonian ship from Donner.
 

ManaByte

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According to BlueTights over at The Planet (who got that Jim Lee comment), Lee is also doing brand new art for the DC logo opener for the movie.
 

FoneBone

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morbidaza said:
Holy cow. That was fucking terrible. I do not remember it being that bad.

Wow. I seriously want to go back in time and kick the little verison of me that actually liked that movie.
No, it's actually pretty awesome, if you watch it as a trainwreck.

Is there any word on when there'll be a theatrical teaser for Superman? Or at least some footage released to the general public?
 

borghe

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NEED TO SEE THIS MOVIE RISING

shit. just when I thought my getting hyped for movies was over after ROTS, Singer and Superman come along and make me remember that there really are movies after Star Wars.
 

DonasaurusRex

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I cant believe it the superman movie actually looks cool. Then again they are sticking to donners superman, not letting singer screw it up ..just take the shots buddy.

Pirates 2 looks friggin score and Davey Jones is gonna be played by Bill Nighly! Im in +1 ticket sales.
 

Soybean

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I don't understand why Lois has to have a baby, or even be married. In my mind, it ruins the purity of their (Lois & Clark's) relationship. Maybe it's not so pure and awesome in the comics, but that's the impression I get (which, to be fair, I've only been following Superman for the past 14 months).

I also wish Singer had just rebooted. I never liked or understood why Pa Kent had to die. I hated the reversing of time. Made no sense, even in a movie about a super-powerful alien that coincidentally looks exactly like a human.

These issues are pretty big for me, but I try to remind myself that it doesn't really matter. The movie should be good and I'll be able to suppress these things when I see the finished product.
 

ManaByte

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Soybean said:
I don't understand why Lois has to have a baby, or even be married. In my mind, it ruins the purity of their (Lois & Clark's) relationship. Maybe it's not so pure and awesome in the comics, but that's the impression I get (which, to be fair, I've only been following Superman for the past 14 months).

I also wish Singer had just rebooted. I never liked or understood why Pa Kent had to die. I hated the reversing of time. Made no sense, even in a movie about a super-powerful alien that coincidentally looks exactly like a human.

These issues are pretty big for me, but I try to remind myself that it doesn't really matter. The movie should be good and I'll be able to suppress these things when I see the finished product.

Bryan Singer said to the press after the panel that Lois and Richard White are NOT married. There is audio of the interview over on Superhero Hype.
 

ManaByte

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Soybean said:
I also wish Singer had just rebooted. I never liked or understood why Pa Kent had to die. I hated the reversing of time. Made no sense, even in a movie about a super-powerful alien that coincidentally looks exactly like a human.

Donner's movie is the greatest superhero movie ever made. Period. By not rebooting, Singer doesn't have to redo the origin (which was done perfectly by Donner) and can spend more than two hours with just Superman and Clark with a few flashbacks to Smallville. Someone asked Singer about the length of the movie compared to Donner's and he said it will be more than two hours long.

Pa Kent died to show young Clark that even with all his powers the ones he loved could still be lost. I generally disagree with big changes to the Superman mythos (which is why I hate JJ Abrams more than anyone on this planet), but Pa Kent's death made perfect sense for the way Donner was developing Superman's character in the movie and it also is why Supes turned time backwards at the end to save Lois even so far as going against what Jor-El told him he could or could not do on Earth.
 

Simo

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Here's a peice from The Hollywood Reporter on SDCC that includes an interesting blurb on the footage:
July 18, 2005

Comic-Con falls in love with new Man of Steel


By Anne Thompson
SAN DIEGO -- Superman is back. On Saturday morning, some 6,500 sci-fi, fantasy and comic book fans jammed the frigid Hall H at the airport-scale San Diego Convention Center as director Bryan Singer introduced the first footage anyone has seen from "Superman Returns," the latest attempt to revive the DC Comics movie franchise. "It's one of the largest films Warner Bros. has ever made," Singer told the crowd.

The fans at the 36th annual Comic-Con International gave the early assemblage -- for which Singer flew in from the set in Sydney -- a rousing standing ovation. "This is Comic-Con, and it is 'Superman,' " the director said. "If there was ever a time to make the long flight for a short visit, this was it."

According to producer Chris Lee, Singer hasn't decided whether to post the teaser on the Internet, but the filmmakers will put it up swiftly if a bootleg version is posted. "Superman Returns" is scheduled for release June 30.

The early footage, cut by "Superman" co-writer Dan Harris, emphasized the retro visual style of the film, which Singer shot with new single-chip Genesis digital cameras. It suggested the lead characters' romantic dilemma as Superman/Clark Kent (played by newcomer Brandon Routh) returns to Metropolis after a long absence to find that heartthrob Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) is married to the son (James Marsden) of Daily Planet editor Perry White (Frank Langella). Kevin Spacey rejoins his "Usual Suspects" director as Superman nemesis Lex Luthor. "Kevin has a unique ability to play humor and villainy," Singer said.

Comic-Con fans also gave a warm reception to another Warner Bros. Pictures property as an expanded trailer for November's "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" was introduced on tape by director Mike Newell. In the latest filmed installment of the series, Harry faces a new fear: girls.

Since its founding, Comic-Con has grown exponentially: Last year's 94,000 attendees skyrocketed from 75,000 the year before; this year's attendance was expected to pass 100,000. The major studios like to hawk their science fiction, fantasy, animation, horror and comic book movies to this passionate crowd, who fan out and spread the word, often via the Internet.

Another Warners feature -- the Wachowski brothers' film production of the cult Alan Moore graphic novel "V for Vendetta" -- could face a marketing challenge. While "Star Wars" fave Natalie Portman is clearly a plus for fans, she plays opposite a man in a mask (Hugo Weaving, the villain in "The Matrix"). The film also unfolds in a future totalitarian London attacked by terrorists, but despite the recent London bombings, the studio still plans to release the movie Nov. 4.

Also looking to gain a foothold with fans was writer-director Darren Aronofsky, who showed a 10-minute clip from his six-year passion project, "The Fountain." The project was temporarily scuttled when Brad Pitt dropped out in 2002 but went before the cameras in Montreal this year with a $35 million budget and stars Hugh Jackman and Rachel Weisz as a lovelorn couple who seek the Fountain of Youth for more than 1,000 years. "We're exploiting the **** out of Comic-Con," Aronofsky told the crowd. "Spread the word because Warner Bros. doesn't know what in hell to do with this movie." (The studio has yet to see his director's cut, he said at a later cocktail party.)

As expected, Universal's remake of the 1933 horror classic "King Kong" also proved a big hit at the convention. Peter Jackson, who is halfway through postproduction on a complex FX epic that is due for delivery in November, opted to stay on active duty 6,700 miles away in New Zealand, and sent a charmingly chatty reel to the convention accompanied by the trailer, which has already hit theaters and the Internet. The crowd roared its approval as he then delivered two minutes of animatics and unfinished footage from Kong's epic battle with two T. rexes who can't wait to eat the screaming, writhing Naomi Watts. "I tried to make it as brutal as I could," Jackson said. "I've been dying to make this movie my whole life, and I enjoyed every minute of it."

Adrian Brody, one of "Kong's" stars, described the movie as a "timeless tale" and said, "if anyone can improve on the original, it's Peter Jackson." Brody and Watts provided acoustic drumming as Black performed his ditty "There's nothing as strong as King Kong."

At the convention's end Sunday, Walt Disney Pictures also scored with its and Walden Media's film adaptation of C.S. Lewis' "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe." Director Andrew Adamson and producer Mark Johnson appeared via satellite in a live conference from New Zealand, where they are working with many of the WETA visual effects artists who worked on "The Lord of the Rings." With 1,300 effects to be completed for the film's Dec. 9 release, visual effects supervisor Dean Wright reassured one questioner, "We'll make sure this doesn't suck." The filmmakers also offered up the news that Aslan, the CG-animated lion who serves as King of Narnia, will be voiced by Liam Neeson.

Attendees packed the house to watch new behind-the- scenes material for "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest," introduced on tape by producer Jerry Bruckheimer. "It's not about treasure," he said. "It's about Jack Sparrow's deal with Davey Jones." A second sequel, "Pirates 3," starts filming in the fall, he said.

The reception for the kids' comedy "Sky High" was less enthusiastic. It stars Comic-Con no-shows Kurt Russell, Kelly Preston and Linda Carter as well as Comic-Con favorite Bruce Campbell, who mugged for the fans. The superhero high school premise bears a striking resemblance to "Harry Potter," "Spy Kids" and "The Incredibles."

Also playing a tad too young for this particular crowd was Columbia Pictures' "Zathura," a follow-up to "Jumanji" from "Elf" director Jon Favreau and based on Chris Van Allsburg's story about a game that throws its players into space. Favreau stated an oft-repeated theme at this year's Comic-Con, saying that he preferred to deploy real miniatures and photo effects when possible and spare the CG.

Nicolas Cage did not turn up to hype his turn as the devil's bounty hunter in Columbia and Marvel's "Ghost Rider," directed by "Daredevil's" Mark Steven Johnson, who swore to fans that he would deliver his director's cut to theaters this time rather than save it for the DVD. Columbia's high-speed trailer for the sequel "The Legend of Zorro" generated unintended giggles when Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta-Jones sounded like chattering chipmunks.

With "Serenity," writer-director Joss Whedon offered a movie version of his home-grown Fox cult series "Firefly," which reunites the original TV cast. The space adventure, which played like "Star Trek" for the Comic-Con crowd, could prove a sleeper hit for Universal Pictures.

Animation in all its guises was in plentiful supply. Tim Burton's presentation of Warner's stop-motion feature "Corpse Bride" is a sequel of sorts to 1993's "Nightmare Before Christmas," with four songs from Danny Elfman.

Animation vets Mark Dindal and Randy Fullmer discussed Disney's upcoming "Chicken Little," while an all-star panel of Pixar animators celebrated their successful decade's run of nonstop CG blockbusters. Pixar star John Lasseter did not attend the convention but sent along a candy-colored trailer for his "Cars," due June 9, which was scarfed up by the crowd.

Post-"Lara Croft," the studios expect audiences to flock to movies starring high-kicking babes. Charlize Theron showed up to flog her live-action interpretation of anime's "Aeon Flux," Kate Beckinsale said she was happy to return to rib-squeezing black rubber in Screen Gems' sequel "Underworld: Evolution" and Keira Knightley, still in production on "Pirates," was a Comic-Con no-show as the gun-wielding bounty hunter in Tony Scott's "Domino."

A horror glut is clearly heading toward theaters. At Comic-Con, audiences saw trailers for the Russian import "Night Watch," whose subtitles are red; the R-rated David Cronenberg-inspired gross-out "Slither"; the trailer that was too tough for the MPAA for "The Exorcism of Emily Rose," which draws its scare tactics from the William Friedkin original; the white-knuckle airplane thriller "Red Eye"; the underwater monster movie "The Cave"; a remake of "The Fog" with CG effects and the gay horror tale "Hellbent."

In a Comic-Con first, Lions Gate premiered Rob Zombie's latest horror-fest, "The Devil's Rejects," on Saturday night.

YOU CAN DO IT SINGER!!!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Someone out there put a bootleg up NOW! so we can get the real thing :(
 

Soybean

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ManaByte said:
Donner's movie is the greatest superhero movie ever made. Period. By not rebooting, Singer doesn't have to redo the origin (which was done perfectly by Donner) and can spend more than two hours with just Superman and Clark with a few flashbacks to Smallville. Someone asked Singer about the length of the movie compared to Donner's and he said it will be more than two hours long.

Pa Kent died to show young Clark that even with all his powers the ones he loved could still be lost. I generally disagree with big changes to the Superman mythos (which is why I hate JJ Abrams more than anyone on this planet), but Pa Kent's death made perfect sense for the way Donner was developing Superman's character in the movie and it also is why Supes turned time backwards at the end to save Lois even so far as going against what Jor-El told him he could or could not do on Earth.
Yeah, I guess I mostly agree with you (redoing the origin would indeed be a waste of time). The time travel thing still bothers me, though. Why couldn't he go back to save his father (like way back to improve Pa's diet or bring him some Lipitor) or to stop Hitler, etc.? I mean, that kind of stuff borders on evil, like Hal Jordan trying to recreate the universe, but maybe he just should never have used time travel for personal gain in the first place.
 

karasu

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Donner's movie was too biblical IMO. I hated when Jor-el's head started popping up in the sky like he was god and Superman was Jesus. Plus his Superman was way too fuckin powerful(stealing memories, fixing walls with telekinetic vision), and too fuckin perfect(flying is still the safest way to travel *cheese*). His krypton so sterile and devoid of anything remotely alive. Going back in time was retarded, but those heroes did it all of the time back then. I think Donner put that in to show that Superman wasn't as perfect as he appeared to be, and that he could be every bit as selfish as any other ma. But who knows, maybe he just thought it was groovy, and maybe I've posted this already.
 

Simo

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Matrix said:
Someone out there put a bootleg up NOW! so we can get the real thing :(

Well there's a recording of the audio but the quality is crap. Here it is though:
https://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24LLT27LGO68Z2CY4GYJ5GSY37

Here's a rough transcript of the footage by SR63006 from Bluetights.net:
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LARA V.O.

Why Earth, Jor-El? They're primatives, thousands of years behind us.

JOR-EL V.O.

They will need that advantage, to survive.

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LOIS

Let's start with the big question. Where'd you go?

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MARTHA

Did you find what you were looking for?

CLARK V.O.

That place was a graveyard. I'm all that's left.

MARTHA

Do you mean that you're the last? You're all alone?

CLARK

Yeah.

MARTHA

Oh, Clark.

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JIMMY

Clark has been doing a little soul-searching for the last couple years.

BIBBO

Must be tough coming back.

CLARK

Well, you know. Things change.

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RICHARD

Richard White.

CLARK

Hi.

LOIS

Have you met the munchkin?

RICHARD

Well, it's great to finally meet you. I've heard so much.

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PERRY

Lois, three things sell papers: tragedy, sex, and Superman.

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LOIS

Perry just shoved him back into my life.

RICHARD

Well, i'm sure you can find a way to interview Superman without bringin him back into your life.

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MARTHA

What about that girl you used to like? Lois Lane, the one you had me send all those postcards to?

CLARK

I don't know.

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LOIS

He's Superman. Everyone was in love with him.

RICHARD

But were you? Where'd you find him?

LOIS

He got me.

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LOIS

Well, you're back. I bet you must be pretty happy about it.

SUPERMAN

Hello, Lois.

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MARTHA V.O.

Clark, you've been gone a long time. But not even you can stop the world from spinning.

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LOIS

The world doesn't need a savior. And neither do I.

RICHARD

Well, I realize that. This is just (...)

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LOIS

This doesn't seem right.

PERRY

What doesn't seem right?

LOIS

Winning an award for an article called "Why the World Doesn't Need Superman," but according to this newspaper, they do.

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CLARK

Uh, Lois?

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LOIS

Clark, can I ask you something? You ever been in love? Sounds cheesy, I know. Taxi!

CLARK

(whistles)

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JOR-EL V.O.

Even though you've been raised a human being, you're not one of them. They could be a great people, Kal-El. They wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason alone, I send them you, my only son.


END TRANSCRIPT
 

karasu

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JOR-EL V.O.

Even though you've been raised a human being, you're not one of them. They could be a great people, Kal-El. They wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason alone, I send them you, my only son.

Ugh! That's awful. I hate how they make his life seem like some holier than thou plot by some stiff shirt alien when the real reason Jor-El sent him here was because his planet was about to fucking explode. @_@

Back to the jesus shit again. ah well.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.

ManaByte

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Matrix said:
:lol I couldnt hear a thing in that recording other than the Williams score :D and Jor-el at the end,but holy shit at that crowd reaction at the end :)

The end of that is the crowd on their feet going nuts and Bryan Singer coming out asking what everyone thought and then asking if they wanted to see it again so he ran it a second time.
 

Shinobi

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karasu said:
Donner's movie was too biblical IMO. I hated when Jor-el's head started popping up in the sky like he was god and Superman was Jesus. Plus his Superman was way too fuckin powerful(stealing memories, fixing walls with telekinetic vision), and too fuckin perfect(flying is still the safest way to travel *cheese*). His krypton so sterile and devoid of anything remotely alive. Going back in time was retarded, but those heroes did it all of the time back then. I think Donner put that in to show that Superman wasn't as perfect as he appeared to be, and that he could be every bit as selfish as any other ma. But who knows, maybe he just thought it was groovy, and maybe I've posted this already.

That wall fixing trick wasn't done until Superman 4...THE QUEST FOR PEACE!!!

Seems the crowd there liked whatever they saw from Pixar's "Cars", so maybe that'll soothe the nevres of the NASCAR-hatin' skeptics here. Then again, maybe the entire audience consisted of Tony Stewart fans. Who knows?

And I'm not worried about Legend of Zorro...as long as it's like the original, it'll be gold.
 
I seriously had no idea that they were making this movie until reading this thread. I'm not a big fan of Super-Man
unless Batman is kicking his ass in The Dark Knight Returns
, but if the movie turns out well I'll definitely hop on board.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
ronito said:
So a bunch of superman fans see 5 minutes of the superman movie and liked it? Gee thanks for the news.

A bunch of Superman fans could have easily hated it.
 

Simo

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aparisi2274 said:
hasnt anyone gotten hold of some sort of video for this thing.....

I really need to see it.

Nay...Well someone over at SHH! claims to have a clean recording of the audio and a 1 minute video clip but isn't sharing anything right now which obviously the folks there aren't too happy about. :lol
 

ManaByte

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Simo said:
Nay...Well someone over at SHH! claims to have a clean recording of the audio and a 1 minute video clip but isn't sharing anything right now which obviously the folks there aren't too happy about. :lol

He's a fucking retard. Singer said that if a bootleg pops up online, they'll get the real footage up as fast as possible. Posting the clip could get us a big quicktime of the footage, direct feed. Idiot.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
ManaByte said:
He's a fucking retard. Singer said that if a bootleg pops up online, they'll get the real footage up as fast as possible. Posting the clip could get us a big quicktime of the footage, direct feed. Idiot.

Which makes me think he's lying his ass off or like you said just a complete fucking idiot.
 

ManaByte

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AICN's write up on the panel is so retarded. It's like Quint completely ignored Bryan Singer and put statements that he believes are true about the plot.

Specifically, Lois IS NOT married to Richard White in the movie despite what Quint says. Singer also made a point of that at the press conference afterwards (audio of that is up on SHH).

Dark Horizons has a good write up on it though.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
ManaByte said:
AICN's write up on the panel is so retarded. It's like Quint completely ignored Bryan Singer and put statements that he believes are true about the plot.

Specifically, Lois IS NOT married to Richard White in the movie despite what Quint says. Singer also made a point of that at the press conference afterwards (audio of that is up on SHH).

Dark Horizons has a good write up on it though.

WTF was with his Zoolander comment too,that Routh does a runway model move in one scene?is this true or just more dreamed up bs like Lois being married.
 

ManaByte

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Matrix said:
WTF was with his Zoolander comment too,that Routh does a runway model move in one scene?is this true or just more dreamed up bs like Lois being married.

Dreamed up. He just turns to the camera very much like Reeve does as Supes.
 

ManaByte

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Shown at the Licensing show in NY a month ago, but this is the official teaser poster Warner had at Con:
tp3ln.jpg
 

Simo

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ManaByte said:
Shown at the Licensing show in NY a month ago, but this is the official teaser poster Warner had at Con:
tp3ln.jpg

I like it. It works as a teaser alot better than Batman Begins' poster did because the "Shield" is more iconic. I love the design for the Daily Planet building too and hope the rest of Metropolis is more in the same vain as this:
90vup2.jpg


Unrelated but various Entertainment shows tonight did show some of the Aeon Flux SDCC footage when interviewing Charlize Theron...Of course that still doesn't mean WB will release the SR footage...
 

ManaByte

Member
Soybean said:
Yeah, I guess I mostly agree with you (redoing the origin would indeed be a waste of time). The time travel thing still bothers me, though. Why couldn't he go back to save his father (like way back to improve Pa's diet or bring him some Lipitor) or to stop Hitler, etc.? I mean, that kind of stuff borders on evil, like Hal Jordan trying to recreate the universe, but maybe he just should never have used time travel for personal gain in the first place.

Well another thing you need to understand was that the Superman movie was made pre-Crisis. In the pre-Crisis multiverse, both Ma and Pa Kent died after Clark graduated from highschool (don't ask how, it's pretty silly).
 
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