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Surface 2 and Pro 2 |OT| Lap it up
- Thread starter GK86
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Got my surface pro 1 64gb today, for 467€. So far I like it a lot, but there are some problems with it.
It gets hot, unpleasantly so. Perhaps it's because I'm charging while surfing on wifi simultaneously, I'll have to see, but I haven't heard the fans kick in so far, so I'm wondering if there are some settings for that.
Also the kickstand angle is completely useless, what was microsoft thinking? Is there some kind of case with adjustable angles?
I don't mind the weight, this way i won't even have to lift, bro
Edit: just found the fan settings, apparently it was turned off
It gets hot, unpleasantly so. Perhaps it's because I'm charging while surfing on wifi simultaneously, I'll have to see, but I haven't heard the fans kick in so far, so I'm wondering if there are some settings for that.
Also the kickstand angle is completely useless, what was microsoft thinking? Is there some kind of case with adjustable angles?
I don't mind the weight, this way i won't even have to lift, bro
Edit: just found the fan settings, apparently it was turned off
Anton Sugar
Member
Completely useless is factually incorrect. Far better than nothing, but not ideal, as S2/SP2 have shown.
one of the main reasons that Surface Pro 2 > Surface Pro 1. That and the battery difference.
Is the Surface Pro worth having if you own a laptop already? I'm into art and drawing/painting, which is the main draw for getting one, but I'm wondering if many people who own laptops find owning a Surface Pro to be beneficial. I'm basically trying to justify buying one, but I'm not sure I can... although the digitizer weighs heavily in my decision.
Note, this is the Surface Pro not the Pro 2. Since I can get one for about $600.
Note, this is the Surface Pro not the Pro 2. Since I can get one for about $600.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
The battery cover is really surprisingly light. I have to pick one up next paycheck.
Thanks! But it won't be out for another few months ; (
Surprising that it took them so long to design something like this, the surface pro has been out for what? One and a half years now?
Well, let's say completely useless in my case. I guess if you are smaller than 6 ft then it could work. It's just too steep for me.
Yeah. Mine'll be here sometime this month though. :3
Anton Sugar
Member
Ah, I see. Fortunately (unfortunately for you), the SP2 has a lower optional angle to use.
They told me I should only send it back if im pretty sure its above the international safety standards.... and that the replacement I get will probably have the same problem.
Microsoft. Or, why im never buying hardware from them again. Worse then apples 'your holding it wrong' >_>
The Faceless Master
Member
what's a cheap, decent BT mouse? i got this BT KB on clearance for $11 and it'll do until i get a power cover.
Anton Sugar
Member
I'm working on giving some laptop recommendations to a friend, but he uses torrent programs pretty frequently. Can you torrent and save downloaded files on Windows RT tablets/devices?
Yep:
Torrex Lite - Torrent Downloader (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/ad0ca65f-400d-4ab9-9d3d-4afb7331619d)
Works perfectly on my Surface RT.
Figured this one out. If you turn the surface off(shutdown in windows) it does not charge the power cover at all.
Also, if your surface's battery is at or above 80% it will charge the power cover till 100% and then finish charging the surface, if its not it charges the surface up to 80% first.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I went from getting a venue 8 pro to returning it to getting a Surface Pro 2. Anyway....mostly happy with it. Chunky as fuck coming from a macbook air/ipads mostly but good times all in all.
Just dropped my SP2 in class, god damnit. Still working normally, just seems like the rubber/plastic thing separating the screen to the metal at the bezel is protruding just a little bit at one corner.
edit:
looks like the button on the pen broke off, it being stuck to the magnetic charger port. A quick chat with MS Support, they're sending over a replacement. Awesome.
I managed to put the button back on, though it feels a little weird/more resistant. Guess I'll have two pens.
edit:
looks like the button on the pen broke off, it being stuck to the magnetic charger port. A quick chat with MS Support, they're sending over a replacement. Awesome.
I managed to put the button back on, though it feels a little weird/more resistant. Guess I'll have two pens.
We got the Dell Venue 11 Pro at work for testing purposes and it's... absolute shit hardware design-wise. They seem to be made to break. Regular laptop charger interface will most definitely brake in the hands of users, the dockingstation is "clip on" which will also most likely break, the keyboard attachment is also the same. Geez who designed this thing?
So annoyed Microsoft aren't releasing the Surface 2 Pro dock in Europe...
Chance Hale
Member
How do you change the settings for tap the touchpad to drag? Newest update brought that feature and I can't get used to it.
Whoa it did? Time to search.
edit:
There's no setting for it I think, I just tried double tapping and dragging and it worked! Now the cover is pretty much perfect, yesss!
Chance Hale
Member
The problem for me is just tapping drags :/ Wouldn't mind double tap to drag
Muffin Awesome
Member
Sorry outta left field question, but I was wondering how performance was for source games and if the CPUs stay at a decent temp and 30 fps at a res of no less than 1366/768 (cs source/go, tf2, l4d2)?
And if any has done any GC/PS2 emulation?
And if any has done any GC/PS2 emulation?
Muffin Awesome
Member
I have researched YouTube previously as well, I was looking more for other GAFers personal opinions and experiences with their devices that have them.
PS2 emulation works fine, from my experience very slightly south of 60 fps with 2x native resolution.
GC and Wii are a bit rougher, I was even having some trouble with the DS. For the GC and Wii it tends to run fine at first, but you'll quickly run up against your thermal limits and begin to throttle. That said, stick to 1v1 if you ever plan on playing melee
GC and Wii are a bit rougher, I was even having some trouble with the DS. For the GC and Wii it tends to run fine at first, but you'll quickly run up against your thermal limits and begin to throttle. That said, stick to 1v1 if you ever plan on playing melee
Bit of a shameless plug, but I have linked to my review on the Surface Pro 2 when it released, which covers a bit of gaming as well.
http://www.lukecjdavis.com/surface-pro-2-real-world-review/
At that resolution most games are fine - hell, Portal 2 and HL2 can play at 1080P @ 30FPS - I completed co-op on P2 the other day and was surprised I could run it at full HD with no hitches. The issues occur with more demanding games (like The Witcher 2) are thrown at it, but on the whole it is surprisingly capable.
CS:S runs absolutely fine at 1080P when I loaded it up the other week as well. Don't stick on AA at any resolution as it cannot handle it, but it's not like you need it with the size of the screen!
Anton Sugar
Member
Forgot to say thanks for this, exactly what I needed to know.
brotkasten
Member
Apparently the Surface Mini is not dead.
http://www.neowin.net/news/surface-mini-a-few-more-details-about-the-upcoming-device
Best news I've read all week. I'm crossing all my fingers that it's x86 and not ARM-based, but even then, I'd probably buy it, just for OneNote.
http://www.neowin.net/news/surface-mini-a-few-more-details-about-the-upcoming-device
Best news I've read all week. I'm crossing all my fingers that it's x86 and not ARM-based, but even then, I'd probably buy it, just for OneNote.
campfireweekend
Member
Pen input makes this a must buy for me.
juliushandle
Member
With Miracast, Surface Mini could be the all in one device of my dreams.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Lucius,
I will check out your video when I get out of work, but when playing source games, how hot cup wise are you getting, and do you feel like you are taxing, or gambling with life expectancy for it?
Has anyone tried ASUS Vivo Tab Note 8? I'm considering getting it as a gift mainly because of the digitizer and well the great price. To be used by a future college student, would it be good enough? I assume it can run office/onenote well and some light MATLAB use or basic sketching.
I wish you could get one with 4GB RAM.
I wish you could get one with 4GB RAM.
NeOak
Member
Got one for my mom. Its good enough IMO. Just get a different pen.
A Surface Pro is way better, but might want to hold on and see what is the deal with the Surface Mini.
brotkasten
Member
I'm in the same camp. It's either the Asus or the Surface Mini. I'm leaning towards the Surface, because I expect the aesthetics to be better than the plain and boring Asus.
juliushandle
Member
same here, Asus tablets look and feel like ...Asus tablets.
i'd easily pay $100 more for "surface" materials and build quality.
Tell that to MS!
I get a constant 60fps at 720 or 768 on CSGO with a mixture of low/med settings. I was playing competitive mode when testing it out.
The RT versions of the Surface (Surface RT and Surface 2) aren't available in 128GB right? I'm buying one off somebody later. He claims it's a Surface RT 128GB. I was thinking he might have been mistaken and it was a Pro instead but he says there's no stylus and that it came with office + outlook. The Pros don't come with office right?
I guess I'll find out later...:X
I guess I'll find out later...:X
maybe he has a 64 GB card in it.
I asked, he has a 32GB (that he's not giving me).
Maybe it's a super rare variant! (Or maybe I don't know what I'm getting...)
The space would be great though. If it turns out to be real.
I don't think Windows on ARM supports anything above 64GB, so I believe he is mistaken.
NeOak
Member
Nope. 64GB max.