BoboBrazil
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Just speculation, but it's typical survivor, the invisible player following along in the shadows(Chelsea) wins, due to jealousy of the tribe members voted off.
Survivor: One World |OT| Thread of Stupid Name, Promising Twist
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bigtroyjon
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The Silver Fox!
Yep. That's what I feel.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Not gonna happen, I have a feeling Kim is going to get rid of Chelsea somehow in an epic blindside. Or at least, that is what I hope happens.
I could imagine Kat actually convincing people to vote against Kim. Kim is the only person on the show who really deserves to win, but I think butthurt votes will prevent that.
And at that time they clearly had the numbers, they sure as hell didn't see the forced combined tribe because the women were getting their asses handed to them. Was that move unbelievably stupid? Yes, but out of all those guys Troyzan was the only one who seemed to have any clue anywhere near the end of the game. This will go down as one of the worst seasons of Survivor because the contestants were so dumb. They need to start casting this thing differently, otherwise they will definitely start to lose viewers.
Still don't want to see Kim win this because everyone else is so damn awful. Frustrating to watch nobody stand up and make a move to get Kim out. Troyzan was calling for it and none of them have any ability to lead and make something happen. Boring season.
Not his fault, the fanny pack was getting in the way.
SecretMoblin
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Yeah, I agree. Former players have said that the final tribal council actually plays a large part in who wins, and I think Kim is level-headed enough to talk her way into the heads of the jury even if they feel slighted by her. I think she was smart enough to realize that Sabrina was the only one who could potentially outclass her during the final tribal council.
But! You never know. Of all the interviews I've seen and heard with jury members, I certainly didn't pick up a "we respect Kim's game" vibe.
You don't want to see Kim win because... everyone else is worse? I want big moves to be made for the drama it would cause, but I really don't think this season is nearly as boring as people seem to think it is. There have been some remarkably boring seasons recently; this one is certainly not great, but it isn't terrible, either.
Another vote for anti-Kim win. Even though she "deserves" to win, deserving does not always win, especially in Survivor.
The only reason I'm rooting against her is that she has made this season so boring. She also has this higher than thou attitude and is always in damage control mode. I'm sorry this, I'm sorry that.
Even though Tarzan has been a ball-less player so far, it would be sweet justice if could hang around till the finale and pull out a win. I dont remember the season but there was one dude who did this exactly, he was the only man on a tribe of females and he stuck around till the finale and took the title.
The only reason I'm rooting against her is that she has made this season so boring. She also has this higher than thou attitude and is always in damage control mode. I'm sorry this, I'm sorry that.
Even though Tarzan has been a ball-less player so far, it would be sweet justice if could hang around till the finale and pull out a win. I dont remember the season but there was one dude who did this exactly, he was the only man on a tribe of females and he stuck around till the finale and took the title.
SecretMoblin
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Yes, but in
Vanuatu, Chris
That made watching this boring episode worthwhile. Someone surprised that they're not in the final three. Mind blown.
They really need to make a change with casting and direction of Survivor. It's so tiring watching this. I want to say that I won't be watching next season, but I'm too optimistic in hoping for a good season.
UberTag
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Dude... it's Kat. None of these guys respect her. Hell, Kim probably respects her more than anyone else. She wanted her "little sis" to stick around but was overruled by Sabrina, Alicia and Chelsea.
I'm looking forward to seeing a three-tribe dynamic play out again. It's been a while.
I'm still firmly in Kim's corner to win this year. She's been extremely savvy about how she's perceived by both the jury and her tribemates and should be rewarded for her strong gameplay.
Not every season has a bitter jury against the solid frontrunner. It may seem that way sometimes but usually there's a very clear edit of egoism in play ala Coach last season and I don't see that from Kim. If anything, I find it refreshing compared to other seasons how candid she's been about her position in the game in confessional.
She doesn't deserve anything. She appears to be making smart decisions, but anyone who isn't completely braindead could. She lies to everyone and has no loyalty. She mentioned voting out Chelsea and taking on Kat/Alicia as the final three until they all wanted Kat gone. It's true that she is the only competitor left as far as challenges are concerned, but none of them even try. Did you see the rope/balancing challenge? Kat was the only person who even tried and that was because she felt inferior to Kim and was making an attempt to prove herself. She only looks like she is a challenger because no one left in the game is even trying at this point and they're all too stupid to realize that they're all being played.
The season would have been completely different if Colton didn't get sick.
I don't think Kim has done anything noteworthy, aside from not being a blatant ass, like Russell was. It's like someone mentioned above.. she has that holier than thou attitude and is always in damage control mode. The only reason she isn't completely unlikable, to me, is because of her calm demeanor. They all know that she is running things (Tarzan even said it this episode), yet no one will make any type of move against her. If there were any real players this season, she wouldn't have a chance. Troy and Jay almost had her thwarted until Jay drank the Kim Koolaid and got himself voted out.
If anyone in the top 10, aside from Troy, were even trying and Kim pulled it off, then sure, she deserves it. But not with the people who were left.
It'll be interesting to see how the jury votes. With all the lying and backstabbing Kim has committed, you would think that she would end up with the bitter Jury. They have to be talking about it at Ponderosa. I don't know how it could not be a frequent topic. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Chelsea (if she doesn't get blindsided) or Tarzan win because of that.
Edit: Just watched the Kat Ponderosa vids. They're all pretty upset with Kim.
Fixed. Unfortunately we'll never get to enjoy seeing him on Survivor again
That's what I was implying
-- Why won't we see him again? Did he piss off the producers or something?lazybones18
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That's what I was implying
His behavior/dickishness pretty much cost him any chance of ever coming back
Probst commented that there's no real reason to bring him back. http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_one_world/2012_Mar_28_colton-return-probst Still not 100% denied but guess that should say something.
SecretMoblin
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Colton won't be back. He's burned too many bridges. Troy's a lock for a future season, though, and Tarzan and Kim are probably up there, too.
Pretty much. I was fully in favor of Troy causing as much chaos as possible, but he screwed himself multiple times. He's hardly some brilliant mastermind who was ruined by a bunch of incompetent lessors.
I'm still in favor of pretty much any remaining player not named Christina winning.
Pretty much. I was fully in favor of Troy causing as much chaos as possible, but he screwed himself multiple times. He's hardly some brilliant mastermind who was ruined by a bunch of incompetent lessors.
I'm still in favor of pretty much any remaining player not named Christina winning.
I think so, too. Whether she wins or loses, she's been a great player, and I think she would have been a contender on just about any season. Of other women players who played a strong game in their first-go-round, I think only China's Amanda played as well as Kim from start to (I'm assuming) finish. But I think Kim's done a better job fostering relationships and is less likely to melt down at the final tribal council. She's been more Todd than Amanda. Don't know if that'll get her the victory, but she's done a damn good job.
BoboBrazil
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I just don't see the logic of someone like Christina or Tarzan who voluntarily gave up in the immunity challenge without even trying. It's like they don't want to be there. If Kim is smart she would take those 2 to the end as they are the most unlikeable and neither would get the money. Chelsea is a bad choice to take to final 3. People seem to respect Sabrina too. Kim could lose against either of them. This is probably the final week for Tarzan, Sabrina, and Christina to band together and try to do something. They could force a tie at tribal or if they got Alicia they could knock out Chelsea atleast. Kim would have a chance to play her idol if there is a tie wouldn't she? None of these other players should be wanting to take Kim to the end.
Of All Trades
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Zuh? She's managed to completely wrangle the women into a strong alliance with all of them reporting to her. She tricked Troy into taking out Mike (Mike was digging his own grave) and Jay into taking himself out, which had the cumulative effect of eliminating the men's alliance. She's strong at challenges. Her mistakes have been relatively minor, and while the Ponderosa stuff may indicate that she's not popular, they also show that almost everyone else left standing is even less respected. She's at F6 with three potential goats to choose from, two of which are extremely challenge weak, and from all indications she's the person deciding who lives and dies. AND she still has a HII.
I mean, she hasn't played the Omega-class game that Boston Rob played, and she certainly got lucky with the casting, but to say she hasn't played at least a very good game is just wrong.
Even Alicia? She's basically a louder, more hateful Christina.SecretMoblin said:
Uh, never being targeted (even with Troy spelling out exactly what to do) and not looking to ever be targeted is practically the definition of Survivor control unless you're a goat.empty vessel said:
The only reason Kim should have wanted Kat is because Kat would never vote out Kim, whereas Christina and Tarzan, for instance, are looser cannons, and at FTC I think Kat would actually be a mistake (somewhat liked). The fact that she was able to swap out Sabrina with Kat without any apparent damage to her strategy should be plenty of evidence that she's in control.
KibblesBits
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Now that's just uncalled for, Alicia is the total package when it comes to awful.
I'd rather Christina win than Alicia.
SecretMoblin
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Yeah, I take that back.
I don't want Alicia to win.
I don't want Alicia to win.
BoboBrazil
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Alicia might be one of the worst humans to ever be on the show. She's a bully, she's mean spirited, she's obnoxious, and she's delusional. All of this while being a special ed teacher who made fun of the kids she teaches while being on the show.
My point is that, with the people she was given, anyone who isn't a numbskull could have done what she has done. Some of you are making her out to be this mastermind who is a monster at challenges. She's not. She's a normal player who was given the benefit of playing with a group of lazy and moronic players. This last episode is a great example of that. No one even tried in both the challenges, aside from Kat, who was only trying because she developed an inferiority complex because of what Troyzan had said. She isn't good at challenges, she's the only one who is even trying anymore. This is why I'm so disappointed with this season. No one left deserves to win. Telling someone who obviously hates someone else that they're gunning for them isn't exactly an amazing play. Anyone could do that. I would think that it would come up at Ponderosa, but seeing how those two avoid each other, I'm not surprised it hasn't.
Look at the way Kim plays. Her social game is terrible, yet for some reason everyone worships her and no one tries to make a move against her. She lies and backstabs everyone who gets voted off, which is why her name was brought up over and over in the Ponderosa videos. The only thing that may allow her to win is the fact that everyone left are so worthless and for some reason, they all seem to do whatever she says, regardless of how they feel (like Kat, who obviously had a problem with her, yet sided with her until the very end). They're all delusional.
SecretMoblin
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The two parts of this sentence contradict one another.
Couldn't stop laughing, so perfect.
LightofRohan
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Man this season has been garbage for reality shows. Every remaining contest either is shit or is boring. Amazing Race, Survivor and Apprentice. They keep getting rid of the interesting/smart people and leaving crap. It's pathetic when I was actually rooting for Troyzan...
She plays like Russell without the in your face attitude. She lies to and backstabs the people she needs to get to the end.. Whether or not that will come back to bite her remains a mystery. Luck for her, everyone who is left is too dumb to realize that they're getting played. I can see a bitter jury, but it is up in the air. Considering how they all do what she says most of the time, they may just give it to her.
The social game lasts beyond the remaining players, and I don't think many of them will be worshiping her after they're on the jury.
Out of everyone left in the game, I really don't see any logic with people saying Kim doesn't deserve to win. Leave your opinions and emotions at the door and just look at the game she has been playing. She is in full control, save for a slight switch at the last TC. She has made enough moves to fuel her FTC speech, and is in the process of winning multiple Immunity Idols now. Out of everyone left, who actually deserves a win over her? Let's look at who is left:
Chelsea; a good runner-up for most deserving. She's been partnered up with Kim since the beginning I believe. And she's also won Immunity. As far as her chances of appealing to the jury go, I think she has a very good shot of winning, especially if the jury is bitter.
Sabrina; third deserving. She seems to be playing a decent social game, even though she has gotten into it with several people. She has also been aligned with Chelsea and Kim. She has a chance of winning, but only if she brings two goats (see bottom three).
Tarzan, Christina, Alica; aka the goats. Take your pick, they are all pretty much worthless. If Tarzan would have played a better social game with the men and stuck with them, its entirely possible that the men would have the majority. Furthermore, even if the men were still weeded out, Tarzan would more than likely receive votes from the men, based primarily on a "fuck yeah, we're men, we win!" attitude. But he didn't do that. He played...well...I'm not sure what kind of game he is playing. Tarzan winning is only happening if he sits in the final three with the rest of the goats. Christina is also a waste, a totally hot waste, but still, a waste. I cant recall anything she has done. And Alicia is a horrible person. Alicia and Christina have zero chance of winning.
So, honestly, how can anyone say Kim doesn't deserve to win? Even if her social game isn't a factor, she still wins based off of challenge performance. People may say "well look at her competition!", to which I respond with saying: she is the strongest of the weak. Now, if you want to compare her to previous winners, then you would have grounds for claiming no one deserves to win, but that is an entirely different topic.
Now, like others, I can see her not winning if the jury is bitter. We will have to see that later. I am also slightly disturbed that Kim's mustache fits her look.
Chelsea; a good runner-up for most deserving. She's been partnered up with Kim since the beginning I believe. And she's also won Immunity. As far as her chances of appealing to the jury go, I think she has a very good shot of winning, especially if the jury is bitter.
Sabrina; third deserving. She seems to be playing a decent social game, even though she has gotten into it with several people. She has also been aligned with Chelsea and Kim. She has a chance of winning, but only if she brings two goats (see bottom three).
Tarzan, Christina, Alica; aka the goats. Take your pick, they are all pretty much worthless. If Tarzan would have played a better social game with the men and stuck with them, its entirely possible that the men would have the majority. Furthermore, even if the men were still weeded out, Tarzan would more than likely receive votes from the men, based primarily on a "fuck yeah, we're men, we win!" attitude. But he didn't do that. He played...well...I'm not sure what kind of game he is playing. Tarzan winning is only happening if he sits in the final three with the rest of the goats. Christina is also a waste, a totally hot waste, but still, a waste. I cant recall anything she has done. And Alicia is a horrible person. Alicia and Christina have zero chance of winning.
So, honestly, how can anyone say Kim doesn't deserve to win? Even if her social game isn't a factor, she still wins based off of challenge performance. People may say "well look at her competition!", to which I respond with saying: she is the strongest of the weak. Now, if you want to compare her to previous winners, then you would have grounds for claiming no one deserves to win, but that is an entirely different topic.
Now, like others, I can see her not winning if the jury is bitter. We will have to see that later. I am also slightly disturbed that Kim's mustache fits her look.
Unless someone manages to get the courage to make a move against Kim, which would put them in a prime position to appeal to the jury with a solid, game changing move and a good and honest social game. But I doubt anyone will do that.
You would think at some point they would all realize that Kim is the shoe in for the win and want to do something about it, but plenty of people go to the final three with nothing to say no achievements to prove themselves worthy.
Yeah, and that is unfortunate because this season has made it hard to really root for anyone to win, besides Troyzan, and even then, it was still hard to validate rooting for him. I have to agree that if anyone made a strong move against Kim, it would make them look good in front of the final jury, especially if the jury is already up in arms against Kim. And I believe you are right, no one will make a move against her.
I would have also thought someone would realize Kim is going to win if she makes it, but on numerous occasions other people (kat and Alicia) seem to believe it's their game to lose. Maybe, just maybe, Chelsea will realize that Kim is dangerous. If not, well, let's hope next season is different. I wish they would focus on less "hot bods" and more fans of the show, and less model wannabes.
She acts way too smug for my liking, I don't like the arrogance. Especially when that arrogance is over a collection of some of the dumbest contestants I've ever seen.
Only saw the last episode today, Kat laughing about blindsides and then getting blindsided was hilarious. She is one of the most delusional players ever... complaining about Kim winning just because she's six years older. I don't see why that's embarrassing or why being voted out before Christina is, there are many strong players that have already left the game.
I'd be pretty surprised if Kim didn't win, the way each episode is going it seems like nobody is even entertaining the thought. Still hoping Sabrina to pull out something crazy, but unfortunately looks like another predictable season. I don't mind Kim winning though at all, I personally don't see the arrogance. I think the way it's edited it seems everyone has pegged her so high that it comes across as such. Kim just comes across as intelligent and calm to me. I agree the game needs more Kims, it's been a long time since a female powerhouse.
I'd be pretty surprised if Kim didn't win, the way each episode is going it seems like nobody is even entertaining the thought. Still hoping Sabrina to pull out something crazy, but unfortunately looks like another predictable season. I don't mind Kim winning though at all, I personally don't see the arrogance. I think the way it's edited it seems everyone has pegged her so high that it comes across as such. Kim just comes across as intelligent and calm to me. I agree the game needs more Kims, it's been a long time since a female powerhouse.
Crazymoogle
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Apparently finale is Sunday? Same length as previous seasons but really feels like it went by fast.
SuperSonic1305
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Stop picking Kim! Holy shit how dumb are these people. YOU'RE ONLY MAKING HER STRONGER BY FEEDING HER.
UberTag
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Chelsea thinks she can beat Kim and Sabrina in a final jury vote.
Chelsea is stupid and is completely oblivious to the fact that she is to Kim the exact thing she accused Christina of being for Alicia... namely a puppet.
On the bright side, Kim can now shave her 'stache.
BoboBrazil
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How blatant is the loyalty of these players? They take Kim ON EVERY FUCKING REWARD!
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