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Sweden's housing minister quits after extremism row
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robertsan21
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Finally !
This dude should have been gone a long time ago.
the Isis comparasing scandal should have had him fired.
This dude should have been gone a long time ago.
the Isis comparasing scandal should have had him fired.
Funky Papa
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Dining with Grey Wolves while making light of ISIS.
That's one conflicted individual.
That's one conflicted individual.
Vigilant Walrus
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The Grey Wolves.
Not a good look. Kaplan's quote from 2009 is out of place compared to his other incidents.
Not a good look. Kaplan's quote from 2009 is out of place compared to his other incidents.
The guy has made some forgiving comments regarding jihadists previously, and also has some bonds with organizations that "wants to put a koran in the hand of every western youth" as well as some that claim the western influences are destroying the muslims.
I am amazed that he was ever in the government.
I am amazed that he was ever in the government.
Doesn't surprise me at all.
Forsete
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Another politician of the Green Party left after refusing to shake the hand of a female reporter. It went against his beliefs.
http://www.thelocal.se/20160420/swedish-politician-quits-after-refusing-to-shake-womens-hands
One of the the leaders of the Green Party Gustav Fridolin says he didnt know how degrading this felt for women.
Dr. Lars Nicander the Director for The Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies at the Swedish Defence University says the infiltration of the Green Party by members or people having close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood draws parallells to how the Soviets tried to infiltrate political parties during the cold war.
Swedish TV Interview: http://www.tv4play.se/program/nyheterna?video_id=3350659
This party will hopefully be below the 4% threshold next election.
http://www.thelocal.se/20160420/swedish-politician-quits-after-refusing-to-shake-womens-hands
One of the the leaders of the Green Party Gustav Fridolin says he didnt know how degrading this felt for women.
Dr. Lars Nicander the Director for The Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies at the Swedish Defence University says the infiltration of the Green Party by members or people having close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood draws parallells to how the Soviets tried to infiltrate political parties during the cold war.
Swedish TV Interview: http://www.tv4play.se/program/nyheterna?video_id=3350659
This party will hopefully be below the 4% threshold next election.
Absolute catastrophe for the Green party. The confidence in the party's joint party leaders have almost halved. Major polling institute says that they've hardly ever seen this kind of change in opinion. Former top man of the party smashed the two of them earlier today, saying they've ruined what party members built in the 90s and 00s.
BreezyLimbo
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Whats the rabia sign?
As per usual. The right overreact and call this the worst thing ever and the left defending and feigning ignorance.
Sigh, Sweden. I kinda used to look up to you guys. In my mind Sweden was like Finland, except they did everything slightly better. Now, not so much. Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the Green party? Green party member refusing to shake hands with a woman? What a shitshow. You made your bed, and now you're sleeping in it.
Lol what is this? You make it sound like the country is crumbling. It really isn't.
Forsete
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Surprisingly the media have been on their ass a lot, even the socialist democratic Aftonbladet has dug up some old dirt that was published on the interwebs many months ago but kept out of the general media (for example, a MP politician using a islamist greeting on state television, he was in the crowd behind the cameras).
You should know that the great percentage of journalists in Sweden sympathize with the green party, so it is somewhat surprising that they didn't try to shovel it under the rug.
A opinion poll shows record low numbers for the two leaders of the party, Gustav Fridolin and Åsa Romson.
"Not crumbling" isn't that high of a bar to meet.
Basically the thing about the Green Party is that they probably represent a academic middle class electorate, with a policy that is left on social issues (immigration, lgbtq etc) while centrist on economical issues.
When the scandal about dining with the Grey Wolves leader broke he basically bullshited the party leaders that he didn't have a clue who the Grey Wolves leader was. A answer that was obviously bullshit given that he's been active in the turkish diaspora community for his entire life and it isn't a very big circle.
Yet nobody from the party questioned him as basically the number of party members of m.e. background could probably be counted on the fingers of 2 hands and basically it's a party of naive white middle class people from academical backgrounds.
Basically Kaplan has been called out before on his turkish nationalism/sympathy for islamism, oftentimes by Swedish-kurdish (ex Nalin Pekgul) and Swedish-Assyrian (ex Robert Hannah) politicians, but since there has been no internal pressure from the party he has basically just made a rant about everybody being islamophobe and waited for the news to fade.
When the scandal about dining with the Grey Wolves leader broke he basically bullshited the party leaders that he didn't have a clue who the Grey Wolves leader was. A answer that was obviously bullshit given that he's been active in the turkish diaspora community for his entire life and it isn't a very big circle.
Yet nobody from the party questioned him as basically the number of party members of m.e. background could probably be counted on the fingers of 2 hands and basically it's a party of naive white middle class people from academical backgrounds.
Basically Kaplan has been called out before on his turkish nationalism/sympathy for islamism, oftentimes by Swedish-kurdish (ex Nalin Pekgul) and Swedish-Assyrian (ex Robert Hannah) politicians, but since there has been no internal pressure from the party he has basically just made a rant about everybody being islamophobe and waited for the news to fade.
obin_gam
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It's not in trouble either. It's just that we are so boringly goody too-shoes that every little bit of controversy gets blown up to epic proportions so we get to have SOMETHING happen at all.
Royal_Phalanx
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So, after the next election in Sweden do the main opposition parties have plans to permanently reverse Sweden's very generous policy on asylum? What's the political climate right now in Sweden after the borders were effectively closed?
I think that Sweden need some of Sverigedemokraternas immigration policy, but not all of it, however their abortion politics and free trade is disugusting.
I think I read somewhere that some party/parties want to open the boarders again to take in more asylum seekers. I think it was center partiet
First of all the borders are not closed. Sweden took in as many asylum seekers Q1 2016 as the UK/France does an average quarter even though we are a much smaller country.
In regards to the question: The main opposition party Moderaterna (Tories) have pushed for harder restrictions. They pushed on basically stopping all asylum seekers at the border and sending them back to Denmark and Germany. Now they are devoting most of their time ranting about migrant welfare queens.
The other large opposition party Sverigedemokraterna (Swedish version Front National/Vlams Belang/Danske Folkparti/etc) want to basically shut the borders completely and have talked about revoking permanent residency statuses as well.
Personally I think the previous policies aren't coming back no matter government rules after 2018. However most parties bar Sverigedemokraterna aren't really internally united in the asylum question so it's kinda hard to make a long-term analysis right now.
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