Switch 2 costs: $59.99 in 2015 is $80.79 today
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64gigabyteram
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now whats the average income in 2015 compared to 2025?
I collect VHS tapes
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per ChatGPT for USA:
- In 2015, the median household income was about $56,500.
- By 2023, the median had increased to about $74,580.
64gigabyteram
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299 to 449 percent increase: 50%
56,500 to 74,580 percent increase: 32%
something aint adding up here
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pretty sure the figures aren't adjusted for inflation which might explain the mismatch
pacman4000
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It adds up to the word "inflation"...
Radical_3d
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Yes. That he’s asking chatGPT for a macro data measurement that probably needs some sort of reference to understand.
64gigabyteram
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Not to mention these companies want to hire less people and keep people there for less time. We've seen higher layoffs in the past 3 years than ever.
Sure you get paid more but what's the point if your job security is at risk? What's the point of supposed higher wages when the only companies hiring are minimum wage payers?
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Grildon Tundy
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Oh, well. I buy maybe 4 or 5 full-priced games a year. $80 PC games will be given away for free, given enough time.
StereoVsn
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Yep, people love to throw these inflation figures when in reality folks purchasing power fell.
And during the SNES / N64 days there was less spending on other shit like Internet, Phone, Streaming, batshit crazy medical, housing, and so on.
I really think console manufacturers are asking for trouble with non stop price growth acceleration without taking into account how many people can afford their shit.
kazuyamishima
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PS5 games from $60 to $70: “Bad Arrogant Sony again”.
Nintendo switch 2 games from $60 to $80: “Let me talk to you about a thing called Inflation”.
Nintendo switch 2 games from $60 to $80: “Let me talk to you about a thing called Inflation”.
64gigabyteram
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ok, lets factor in inflation.
according to the CPI inflation calculator
56500 in 2015 has the same buying power as 72729 in 2023.
Wages have barely kept up with inflation. Meanwhile the Switch 2 price has sped past that.
Honestly, the price of the Switch 2 isn't even the problem. I don't care about that. Anybody can afford a 450 dollar console. It's the fucking game prices. that's the actual foul behaviour.
64gigabyteram
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I genuinely fear for my future because people act like this inflation shit is normal. How the fuck is prices rising every year supposed to be normal? This is going to lead us to a future where the basic necessities are unaffordable and people will be starving and dying on the streets. How the fuck am I supposed to be able to retire? Are we just never going to get the luxury of that?
I hope the US economy gets its Yen moment and insane deflation starts happening. We need to drop the spending so they can drop the prices.
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SomeNorseGuy
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Has anyone seen a graph cowering the growth of players/volume of games sold the last 30 years compared up against the increase of development cost? I mean without knowing that and how much the industry saves by pushing digital purchases it's difficult to know if it's a fair price-hike.
That said, I'm without doubt getting more and more critical about getting full prices games. Got to be something real special.
That said, I'm without doubt getting more and more critical about getting full prices games. Got to be something real special.
spookyfish
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I’m a Nintendo fanboy, but this sh t didn’t work for PS and Xbox, and I’m not giving Nintendo a pass, either.
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bro they're still charging me close to $20 for a dozen eggs in Los Angeles
shit is crazy
Great Auk
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Ever heard of quantitive easing?
Radical_3d
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Cartridge based MK8 went from 60€ to 90€. A 50% increase. Inflation my ass. This isn’t the Weimar Republic.
Great Auk
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What in the hell. I just bought a dozen jumbo eggs on Saturday for 5.99 and I'm NYC
They're ripping you off.
TKOFromTokyo
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Inflation is a fact of life in any growing economy. The Fed’s Target inflation rate is 2%. Look back at historic data, inflation is not a new concept. The concern is stagflation, where costs continue to rise but wages don’t. Generally speaking, wages have mostly kept up with inflation in the United States.
StereoVsn
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Current political situation all over kind of has a whiff of 1930s which is pretty scary.
Anyways, €90 or even $80 (plus tax) pricing for MK9 is fucking crazy.
MiguelItUp
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We're living in an age where a great deal of 30-40 somethings can't even afford to buy a home, or can barely afford to pay for rent. Some states and cities are worse than others of course. It's pretty wild. I hate that so many things have gone in the direction they've gone in.
Much like Nvidia GPU prices, people have to realize at some point too much is too much. That "too much" number could be subjective for some, but there's gotta be a threshold somewhere when you take into consideration how the cost of everything stacks more and more.
I collect VHS tapes
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they are. they're blaming it on avian flu largely, and some other bullshit.
find a way to get your NYC eggs to Cali and you can make a killing
reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they try to take empty cans to a neighboring state with higher redemption rates
for some reason, California tends to only rely on themselves for eggs. maybe because it's always worked in the past. but it ain't working right now.
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64gigabyteram
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this just means that more people will finally call out how bullshit the "inflation" argument is.
Especially the comparison to older 90s game prices like console hardware wasn't significantly cheaper and games weren't stored on significantly more expensive mediums until PS1/Saturn with CDs. Or the fact that Digital distribution should make game prices crater but instead they're now being used as an excuse to RAISE physical instead of dropping digital.
SweetTooth
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Also take into consideration the scope and tech used in Sony's games (industry leading) vs Nintendo copy pasted simplistic games.
Sony raised price out of necessity
Nintendo raised price out of pure greed
Great Auk
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I agree, Nintendo jumped the shark with these game costs.
The only thing they could have done and gotten away with it was to charge 69.99 like everyone else.
This just feels extremely greedy. Their games already basically never go on sale. So this is a terrible development.
Great Auk
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Seinfeld has an incredible number of still relevant references that apply to so many areas of life, the show was incredible. I know the episode you're referring to, great stuff
Radical_3d
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I’m pretty sure that tariffs will solve that.
lol
lmao even
lmao even
64gigabyteram
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don't worry, that's still bullshit pricing too!
SweetTooth
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Radical_3d
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Great Auk
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Sure, but we didn't have to buy the Pro. The Pro is simply a option. And Pro or not, we still all pay the same $70 for games.
SweetTooth
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You are buying $500 for glorified Switch that doesn't even run all its games..lol
Also that $700 Pro is like 2 gens ahead of Switch 2 technologically..with 4x the storage, State of the art RT, ML, more than 10x the GPU power...Cmon what is extra $200 for all that!
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Syphon Filter
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SweetTooth
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Im talking game by game cost and budget. You are showing entire division profits including accessories, subs ..etc
And what a pretty sight that is !!
Nephryte
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Anxiety prone subject …. It’s starting to be very concerning.
Generic
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Don't forget they will end the cashback system for the Nintendo Store.
Sebastian1295
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What's with all these cope posts? Like we've had nonstop posts just licking the boots of a billion dollar corporation and praising them for raising the price of there games lol.
TKOFromTokyo
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Maybe my reading comprehension is lacking, but are you saying CD manufacturing was more expensive than cartridge manufacturing on Nintendo’s platform?
I totally agree on the digital point. That’s why I prefer physical. Digital allows them to increase profit margins by cutting out retailers and limit purchasing options, thus keeping prices up. Not to mention you don’t actually own the games.
People complained when prices rose from $50 to $60. Then again when they rose to $70. I’m not surprised to see it with $80. The thing is that based on historical prices going back 30 years, $80 is not crazy. Don’t forget price is set by cost and demand. Look at how prices for streaming have increased over the years. Electronics have been pretty resistant to raising prices over the past decade compared to other industries. Look at housing. It’s outrageous. My parent’s house cost $280K in 1988. Now, it would sell for around $800K. Not to mention certain states that have more than doubled in 10 years for cookie cutter, low quality homes.
Sebastian1295
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Games were much more expensive to make back then and they came with big boxes including manuals etc. That comparison never made any sense to me at all.
64gigabyteram
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The reverse! I'm saying that CD manufacturing was way cheaper than cartridge manufacturing. And this shows itself by the price of games on N64 vs PS1 at the time
Even back in the 90s, game prices stopped being over expensive the moment cheaper distribution options came along. But people keep bringing that decade up as a gotcha when it shouldn't be representative of modern game prices in any way.
jesus christ your parents are rich.