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Tales of Graces |OT| Gracing the PS3 with the Best RPG Combat
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It's funny, since Graces's music annoyed me the least out of all non-Legendia Tales games. I don't think it's good, though. I just don't care for Sakuraba and I hate Tamura. Graces has no Tamura, so happiness.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well, isn't that something.
I've never even played Destiny but I just can't believe something is worse than Phantasia.
Koroviev
Member
Yeah, I would wait for the reprint. How is the enemy variety in Graces? One of my concerns about RH is that the enemies are supposedly pretty bland. I guess SMT has kind of ruined me with its demon variety.
Are the characters in Graces at least tolerable? I think the design overall looks nice and colorful, I just can't stand the look of Sophie for some reason. Too much purple hair, maybe -_o
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Welcome to my world, scy. That's partially why my game ran on longer than most players. But I ended up unlocking the titles trophies pretty early on, so I'm happy with it.
Yeah, they're fine in general. I didn't actively dislike anyone. I may have felt indifference, but definitely not hate (which was nice for a Tales game). And Sophie's default design is really awful.
As for enemy variety, there isn't much of it.
Welcome to my world, scy. That's partially why my game ran on longer than most players. But I ended up unlocking the titles trophies pretty early on, so I'm happy with it.
Yeah, they're fine in general. I didn't actively dislike anyone. I may have felt indifference, but definitely not hate (which was nice for a Tales game). And Sophie's default design is really awful.
Thank goodness Sophie's future outfit is much better. rofl.
Koroviev
Member
Welcome to my world, scy. That's partially why my game ran on longer than most players. But I ended up unlocking the titles trophies pretty early on, so I'm happy with it.
Yeah, they're fine in general. I didn't actively dislike anyone. I may have felt indifference, but definitely not hate (which was nice for a Tales game). And Sophie's default design is really awful.
As for enemy variety, there isn't much of it.
Well, looks like Amazon just decided for me. Not kidding, I think I was billed for RH mere minutes ago. Should be here on the 20th. Oh well, means I can afford Oath of Felghana when it releases on Steam. Also, is there co-op in Graces? My friend has it.
30 hours
RPGCrazied
Member
Or pay $1.99 on PSN for the formal and swimsuit one.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I thought Radiant Historia kinda dragged on a bit. What I liked about Tales of Graces more is that there's a lot of interaction between the characters.
BassForever
Member
I rank Destiny PSX that low simply because the gameplay is full of dumb/bad decisions. You all AI is completely inept at doing anything unless you put Stahn in the back of the line and force them into the enemies. If you don't do this half they time they just sit their with their thumb in their butt occasionally casting magic. They make it so half of Garr's moves can only be used if he is equip with a bow, and the other half with his Swordian making him worthless. Gameplay is just as slow and unenjoyable as Phantasia GBA, but at least Phantasia's characters do things without you having to goad them. I also think Phantasia has a better plot then Destiny, I know Destiny R/DC improved it but were going on just the PSX version (aka the one in English). In then end I put Phantasia GBA over Destiny PSX by a very tiny margin, both are borderline unplayable, GBA is just "less unplayable"
Oh and I forgot Phantasia SNES, put that ahead of Phantasia GBA in my list.
Dedication Through Light
Member
30 hours is too long to wait. 1.99 for one character is reasonable, I didnt think it made sense to buy for all characters.
Hours Left
Member
Malik is all you need.
RPGCrazied
Member
I hear ya, lol. I did buy the Double SP addon. Best $$$ spent.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Look like a buddy at GS got me the pre-order costumes for free. Hurrah free stuff!
Hurrah free stuff!I caved in and sneaked in some Graces F instead of sleeping for work. My friend was there watching me struggle with the 1st boss on Hard and trying to give me pointers. Multiple deaths later, I remember that the game had multiplayer and handed him a controller and beat the boss. Just got a text from him that he is down if I ever need more battle assistance. Haha.
I'm grinding areas until I get all the Soul Orb drops as a minimum. I'm also still working towards unlocking Chaos so I need the battles. It's just sad that I'm still at the start of the second arc and I already got the 20 title trophy :|
Welcome to my world, scy. That's partially why my game ran on longer than most players. But I ended up unlocking the titles trophies pretty early on, so I'm happy with it.
I was a little surprised to see the 20 Trophy title, honestly. No place for quick fights, though, so I haven't gotten Chaos yet. But, if (early second arc)
Lhant Hill still has respawning enemies in a small loop, I'll just grindan there
Sophie is still :/
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I got Asbel's 20 trophy title while I was at the beginning of the Adult Arc on my first playthrough. Don't worry about it. Getting and levelling up titles can be really addictive. :lol
Are you using Dark Bottles for respawning enemies faster on Lhant Hill? The better place to unlock Chaos is towards the end of Chapter 3 since you'll get into a dungeon where the enemies seem to respawn quick. At least, that's when I unlocked Chaos since battles felt more engaging there than at Lhant Hill.
Sophie was the one I took a while warming up to. I feel the same about using her in battle manually after Childhood Arc.
I'm enjoying the story more than Abyss but less than Symphonia. (personally anyways)
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Wait, so if you use her costume the music changes? I'll have to try that.
For her or Asbel.
BassForever
Member
Finally got stuck on Evil and had to drop the difficulty down to hard for
The fight with Richard's Uncle, I know my strategy would have worked (got him down to below 10k) but it was just getting so frustrating having spent over 30 minutes on the same fight, on Hard mode it wasn't even fun I roflstomped him
Dedication Through Light
Member
Wow
is pretty tought on hard in the child arc. Four attempts and I cant even win.
Bryce
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
So I just reunited with
. Ummmm someone answer my speculation please.
Richard
... he's totally the final boss, isn't he? He's got that Tales of "I'm the final boss even if you don't recognize it now" look, that blond pretty boy look with the swooped hair like Mithos or whatever. Plus, unlike all my other "friends" who've become complete dicks over the last seven years, things are going WAY too swimmingly with him...
You'll see soon enough (i've not finished, but i'm farther along.)
Soooo..... I anyone else Dualizing their weapons? So far, I find it confusing as hell. I'm thinking that maybe I should save if for my 2nd playthrough so I know which weapons are best to Dualize. Any tips for people that have already played and beat the JP version of the game?
BassForever
Member
More expensive weapons have more CC, so always buy, equip, and dualize them. Take your old, tempered equipment and dualize it with other tempered equipment to get stones which make awesome accessories. Basic gist of it
You have to equip to temper it though, right? I can't just make production line of them?
FateBreaker
Member
Hahahaha, well goddamn, that is hilarious. What the heck.
Finish fight. Get 3 new titles.
I want to get to Chaos before the second 60 second boss fight though :x I'm pretty close (~100 fights) so it's not so bad. And I don't have access to Dark Bottles yet as far as I know (at least, I haven't seen them for sale or a Dualize option for them yet).
I think I just hate her character type. And design. She was fun to use in combat during the first arc though.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Re: Dualization. You can also dualize foods to throw into your pot which'll be activated in a gambit-like manner, along with books.
Um. If you don't want to sift through this post, I hope this video answers your questions. It uses the JP version, but it's how I learned to dualize properly.
Dualizing equipment involves synthing two pieces of equipment or materials or something. You dualize to:
-Make new weapons (self-explanatory)
-Power up weapons
-Bestow abilities to equipment
-Extract abilities from equipment
Powering up weapons lets you level them up with fragments, and the boost is permanent (even if you extract abilities from the equipment).
For bestowing abilities, all fragments give certain abilities to your weapons/armor. The effect will be determined by the chosen fragment's colour. In addition, all fragments have an associated rank (ex: they'll have a number beside the piece name). It'll determine how good the effect is, so 1 will be the weakest and 9 will be the highest.
-Blue: Attack/DEF/Arte Atk/Arte DEF/ACC/EVA
-Yellowish-Green: HP Recover/Auto Regen/Crit Hits = HP Recover
-Purple: Elemental/Status abilities (ex: Freeze/Petrify/Poison/Burn, etc)
-Orange: Boost CC (increase min CC, max CC, CC recover (ex: when you kill things, crit strike, evade and recover CC, etc).
For extracting abilities, when you extract stuff by synthesizing two weapons, you'll make a jewel based on the combined natures of the two weapons involved in the synthesis. The jewel will have the two high ranking abilities of both weapons.
I will note, though, that you'll need to get used to dualizing weapons if you want to plat the game. >.> (some are needed for inn requests, and it's better to synthesize something to access floors in the Zone Cage)
Dark Bottles are sold in Lhant's Item Shop, aren't they? Are they called something else in the English version? Dark Bottles increase respawn rate. Holy Bottles decrease it. It makes grinding go a lot faster. For dualization, you can just experiment yourself and see what you can make.
Um. If you don't want to sift through this post, I hope this video answers your questions. It uses the JP version, but it's how I learned to dualize properly.
Dualizing equipment involves synthing two pieces of equipment or materials or something. You dualize to:
-Make new weapons (self-explanatory)
-Power up weapons
-Bestow abilities to equipment
-Extract abilities from equipment
Powering up weapons lets you level them up with fragments, and the boost is permanent (even if you extract abilities from the equipment).
For bestowing abilities, all fragments give certain abilities to your weapons/armor. The effect will be determined by the chosen fragment's colour. In addition, all fragments have an associated rank (ex: they'll have a number beside the piece name). It'll determine how good the effect is, so 1 will be the weakest and 9 will be the highest.
-Blue: Attack/DEF/Arte Atk/Arte DEF/ACC/EVA
-Yellowish-Green: HP Recover/Auto Regen/Crit Hits = HP Recover
-Purple: Elemental/Status abilities (ex: Freeze/Petrify/Poison/Burn, etc)
-Orange: Boost CC (increase min CC, max CC, CC recover (ex: when you kill things, crit strike, evade and recover CC, etc).
For extracting abilities, when you extract stuff by synthesizing two weapons, you'll make a jewel based on the combined natures of the two weapons involved in the synthesis. The jewel will have the two high ranking abilities of both weapons.
I will note, though, that you'll need to get used to dualizing weapons if you want to plat the game. >.> (some are needed for inn requests, and it's better to synthesize something to access floors in the Zone Cage)
Fair enough re: Sophie. I think she'll be hit or miss for some people character/battle-wise. You'll stop getting new titles after a while, but when you start Adult arc, they really like to throw them at you.Finish fight. Get 3 new titles.
I want to get to Chaos before the second 60 second boss fight though :x I'm pretty close (~100 fights) so it's not so bad. And I don't have access to Dark Bottles yet as far as I know (at least, I haven't seen them for sale or a Dualize option for them yet).
I think I just hate her character type. And design. She was fun to use in combat during the first arc though.
Dark Bottles are sold in Lhant's Item Shop, aren't they? Are they called something else in the English version? Dark Bottles increase respawn rate. Holy Bottles decrease it. It makes grinding go a lot faster. For dualization, you can just experiment yourself and see what you can make.
Thanks for the info and the link.
DualShadow
Member
Anyone know a good place to order this from to deliver to Australia?
I'm interested to try this game out just need to find somewhere to order from.
I'm interested to try this game out just need to find somewhere to order from.
WickedLaharl
Member
Is sophia a retarded drone the entire game? Because I really dislike emotionless chars.
Meccanical
Member
But...royal crablets...
Do you care if its the English Asian version? Hkofferhouse.com has it for $48, maybe cheaper because of our exchange rate. I have used them before and i can recommend them.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
lol some of the scenes are hilarious post battle, especially after post-pascal joining.
It's ridiculous, lol. That said, I do like this system for titles so it's not really a bad thing at all. Was just kind of funny since I went through the childhood arc with the goal of maxing all the titles I got before moving on (all ... three of them) and then Adult arc started with whoamg here's 20 have fun.
I didn't see it when I last checked (after the Lhant events, Shop Rank 3) and nothing dualized to it yet. I'm going to try again after doing some grinding in the Caverns and see if that gets me anything to dualize it with the new components.
BassForever
Member
Without trying to spoil anything, can you name one character from a JRPG who starts off an emtionless drone and doesn't eventually gain personality?
WickedLaharl
Member
Give me an ETA (in hours) on when it will end please.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I really loved how Graces handled titles, and it made title acquisition fun. And then we got Xillia and titles were really crap there. :/
I think you can dualize a Dark Bottle by using Holy Water (from Barona's church... I think?) and Poison Seaweed (from the
Seaside Cavern