Dark Schala
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To be fair, though, those games weren't by the Tales Studio, so I wouldn't use them as an indicator of what we'll see in Tales games in the future.
Tales of Series | Community Thread | Localizing more games than Square Enix
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dakkumauji
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You don't need that much Japanese knowledge to play the games. You can easily get through most of it with trial and error.
Samurai_Heart
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But you play RPGs for the story =P, what good is not knowing what is going on and whose betraying who XD?
BassForever
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Unless you care about the story and characters lol
Pretty much. I enjoy the battle systems and subsystems most so I still get enjoyment out of importing Japanese Tales games.
Not sure if that's a sarcastic XD or not cause I don't think I've seen anyone use it seriously in years buuut
Yeah. I care about the story and characters. Tales of Graces F is the only JRPG I've finished purely thanks to the great gameplay. There are countless JRPGs I played purely for the story, even if I hated the gameplay.
Tales games are pretty much 50/50 usually, I enjoy both aspects. So I would enjoy playing a, say, imported Destiny R, but not nearly as much as I would if I understood what was going on.
dakkumauji
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I assume you can tell who's betraying who when they got a sword pointing at you now and left the party.
You pick up on this and that. And really, there are plenty of resources for the plot and all that.
Samurai_Heart
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I'm serious but partially making fun of the fact that Tales as a more "popular" RPG series tend to have predictable plots. Well at least the stories are exponentially more engaging than some RPGs as of late.
And then insert your own interpretation for betrayal XD (money, fame, blackmail) lolI assume you can tell who's betraying who when they got a sword pointing at you now and left the party.
dakkumauji
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I have done that before. Make up my own plot as I go along.
Haha yeah, but they are so full of emotion that it alone makes them immensely enjoyable. And while the twists usually aren't anything new per se (Abyss' main twist did surprise me), the way they handle them make them still pretty whammy and awesome. And they tend to stick the games so full of them, at least a few are bound to surprise lol
If you're determined, you can always play the PS1 version for the story and then play the PS2 version. You'll have a better idea what's going on this time. Plus Destiny PS2's one of the Tales games that give you a flashing dot on where you're destination is.
Samurai_Heart
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Agreed on that, and I do like what you said about Tales having more than 1 twist each game as well. At the very least any betrayals/twist makes a lot more sense in terms of most RPGs lol
You know
That never occurred to me.
That's actually not a bad idea. I'll still need to look if I can find the skits translated somewhere though, I found a youtube playlist but apparently it only has some of the early skits actually translated.
Still, it's a pretty neat idea. Thanks!
Young Magus
Junior Member
Suddenly the idea of
Kratos, should this really be spoiled
While on the matter, how does Symphonia hold up in terms of plot for you all? And I'm I correct in hearing that the HD collection will have dual audio?
dakkumauji
Member
All the recent ones do now. It only started with Xillia though but Vesperia and Graces had the English version of the opening songs.
Since Abyss and Radiant Mythology they did. Though Abyss/RM had instrumentals.
Vesperia and Graces had English versions of their songs.
Dawn of the New World was a special case, probably because it was a budget title + Symphonia 1 had an original instrumental in the localization too.
Xillia and it looks like newer ones will have the actual songs.
BassForever
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I kind of wish they had the option to hit select and get subtitles for the song
dakkumauji
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I actually forgot ToS2 had an instrumental opening.
SatelliteOfLove
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I skip every one of these.
dakkumauji
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The only version of Phantasia released in America is the GBA version (shocking!) so no OP of whatever sorts, I think.
I think Eternia had some sort of instrumental OP.
Can't remember Destiny but it was probably another instrumental.
Destiny had an instrumental and so did Eternia.
Phantasia GBA had an opening, but it was like the Super Famicom version where it was sprites and credits. The English version put world map music over it.
Where would you all rank Xillia's cast?
For me it's probably my second favorite after Vesperia, and above Rebirth and Symphonia.
Not sure where I'd rank the game itself. Vesperia is like a 9.5 for me, Xillia is probably an 8.5. But idk if its my second favorite, I'd say it's top tier for sure though.
For me it's probably my second favorite after Vesperia, and above Rebirth and Symphonia.
Not sure where I'd rank the game itself. Vesperia is like a 9.5 for me, Xillia is probably an 8.5. But idk if its my second favorite, I'd say it's top tier for sure though.
I'm still pretty early into Xillia, but the crew seems pretty interesting. I feel like individually they are all fairly interesting characters, but as a group, the meshing seems like the writers are forcing it a little bit. It doesn't feel as organic as Vesperia's cast, but I'll see how it develops =)
Currently I'm sitting at this:
Vesperia
Symphonia
Abyss & Xillia
Graces
To be fair, I don't think I even made it 20 hours into Graces... I just can't stand the game for some reason.
Currently I'm sitting at this:
Vesperia
Symphonia
Abyss & Xillia
Graces
To be fair, I don't think I even made it 20 hours into Graces... I just can't stand the game for some reason.
I hope Nobuyuki comes back one day to voice a tales character .
I also want a main character that is as hotblooded as stahhn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTk1GQ53POM
I also want a main character that is as hotblooded as stahhn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTk1GQ53POM
dakkumauji
Member
Actually has any seiyuu voiced more than one (playable or major) Tales character?
I imagine this could be less of an occurrence than English voice actors since there is a large range of seiyuus to use.
I imagine this could be less of an occurrence than English voice actors since there is a large range of seiyuus to use.
Same here on cast. As a game, I find both Vesperia and Xillia pretty much 9.0-9.5
Young Magus
Junior Member
Xillia is up there, alongside Vesperia and Symphonia.
Seeing that makes the wait for the translation harder. Speaking of fan-translation: Has anyone here played the recent translation of Phantasia? How was it and how does it compare with the a0 version?
Burning Phoenix spam in Eternia. I abused the hell out of that move as soon as I got it.
Takahiro Sakurai for Legendia. Not as a playable character though.
Vesperia still the top, but Xillia (so far, haven't finished it yet) is right behind it. Other games behind those don't really matter too much in ranking.
Man, Stahn was mad fun to play the Remake.
So many awesome moves and combos to use.
Pretty much.
Can't think of many games where I used it much else.
ugh S T O P tempting me
At this rate I'm going to play this again in Japanese rather than wait for the patch : (
But seriously, Destiny R and Rebirth are my personal favorites of the series, makes me sad to see a departure from 2D games.
As much as I like Leia, she was way more throw away to the main plot compared to Judith. Judith was pretty integral to the plot, at least during a good part of it.
Still haven't played Destiny R, but Rebirth is one of my favorites. Sooooo fun. Love the battle system and the dual hi ougis. And Veigue is awesome.
PS2 Director's Cut. Best version of the game. DC added some more features and content, but nerfed some moves and abilities though.
PS1 version aged, so I wouldn't recommend that personally.
With the director's cut, is the story completely different if you play as Leon?
Well, the PS2 version had extra scenes iirc.
CielTynave
Member
Yeah, but I didn't actually expect them to bother getting the original voice actors back after all these years lol. I kind of expected them to just leaves new things unvoiced and work around new skills and such by reusing other voice clips.
Yeah if there was new voice acting I was expecting the new actors from Dawn not the originals.
I can only think of 2 that do.
BassForever
Member
If you've never played Destiny and know nothing of its story don't play Leon's side first. From what I've seen it's designed for people who've already played the game.
Celcius
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Duke, Gaius & Muzet, Lambda, Mithos? (can't remember)