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Tales of Symphonia Chronicles |OT| 60FPS? I lied. Its actually 30FPS
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Aw, Gungnir is one of the better new ones.
She had it since the GC version, but the NA version removed the Sound Test. I guess we're getting Sound Test this time, but it's weird they bothered to dub them instead of remove them.Collette has a audio line for Final Fury!?
Or they probably just didn't even check which artes they actually have and dubbed everything that didn't have an English dub already.
The Red Wizard
Member
Which version is that screen from? It looks like an emulated version of the GC release.
I have the GC and Wii versions of Symphonia and Dawn but I love it so much that I'd happily buy the HD remake as I love Symphonia so much. That being said, the way the EU is being shafted with regards to the CE, and the fact that Symphonia is 30FPS, is making me consider cancelling my CE out of principle and just replaying it via Dolphin.
so true. It sucks for small bosses but watever.
Bahahahaha Raine's Fairy Circle sounds so awful.
I'm pretty sure you still get all hits against small enemies with Prism Stars. The bad thing about it is that many bosses resist Light.
Gamecube on Dolphin Emulator.
I still can't get over that they redubbed Falcon Crest.
;- As expected a few of their voices sound a bit off, some worse than others (what is up with that Fairy Circle dub, and I think Sacred Light they just took from the GC version's localization.)
- Text mismatch with several artes like Regal, Kratos, Zelos.
- Some inconsistencies to previous localizations, Rock Pillar instead of Rock Mountain (Anise's arte in Abyss)
Dimentionalist
Member
It's nice to hear the old voices again. Some (like Regal and Raine) sounded a little off, but I'd take the voice cast from the first game sounding a little off over the Dawn cast any day of the week. Menville in particular sounded exactly the same as he did in 2004. Shame they didn't re-dub the sequel, I would have loved to hear his take on an older Lloyd.
I guess it kind of makes sense, given that ToS1's original voice director sadly passed away in 2011 and judging by the quality of the recording equipment, they used Cup of Tea instead of Blindlight (the studio that did the first game).
But still... mixing up Genis and Presea's lines? What the heck?! Let's hope that never happens again.
I guess it kind of makes sense, given that ToS1's original voice director sadly passed away in 2011 and judging by the quality of the recording equipment, they used Cup of Tea instead of Blindlight (the studio that did the first game).
But still... mixing up Genis and Presea's lines? What the heck?! Let's hope that never happens again.
I always thought it was dependent on size because on smaller enemies, I'd hear less hits than I would if it were a big one like a dragon or something.
beyond_death
Member
One of my favourite games. Played it over and over back in the Gamecube days. Cant wait to do it all over again.
The dub line was pretty cringeworthy back in 2004, so I'm for them redubbing it.... but he doesn't even say new line for the Mystic Arte itself, he just kind of grunts, lol.
So I guess sub is superior outside of nostalgia. You get voiced skits in ToS1, and a more consistent dub through both games, as well as not getting these inconsistently dubbed new artes.
They might have just cut the line im half, actually.
In the Gamecube version he'd say "I'll show you divine justice!" now it's just "I'll show you!"
The grunts at the beginning sound different to me, and the "See You" is new for the activation, and he does some new grunts where he'd say "Divine Justice" before. You might be right that they cut it in half.
v: I hope that's the actual reason they removed it, lol
Because Lloyd hates the word "justice".
Edit: Yeah, they definitely used Lloyd's GC "I'll show you
Oh god what the fuck? I'm usually not one to complain about a dub of anything but damn the new content just sounds awful voice and word wise
It's likely they just copied and pasted the GC localization (Sacred Light, Holy Binds, etc.) and added new translations for the new stuff, then didn't do a good job to cross referencing old localizations or change the text if they did a different translation with the voice.
Rock Mountain -> Rock Pillar is probably them thinking Rock Mountain sounds really Engrishy...which it does. But they already left it as Rock Mountain in Abyss, so it's obvious again they didn't do a good job referencing old localizations.
It's really fucking lazy and/or amateurish.
Other than that, good job getting the old dub actors back in studio for a few lines even if they didn't voice skits.... and making a pretty sweet looking CE. That's about all the praise they're getting out of me.
......still better than Phantasia GBA's localization, haha.
Rock Mountain -> Rock Pillar is probably them thinking Rock Mountain sounds really Engrishy...which it does. But they already left it as Rock Mountain in Abyss, so it's obvious again they didn't do a good job referencing old localizations.
It's really fucking lazy and/or amateurish.
Other than that, good job getting the old dub actors back in studio for a few lines even if they didn't voice skits.... and making a pretty sweet looking CE. That's about all the praise they're getting out of me.
......still better than Phantasia GBA's localization, haha.
Phantasia GBA does not exist.
Have enough affection towards Kratos so that he is one of your top 3 affinities, and talk to him when he knocks at Flanoir. The character with highest affinity towards Lloyd will knock first, you can decline them and whoever has second highest affinity with Lloyd. Kratos in the GCN version would always come last if you declined your top 3, but that's no longer the case, so he has to be in your top 3.
Yeah, though I wish Xillia had gotten this CE treatment. They had set a precedent for doing large, full color manuals for LEs with Ni No Kuni before that came out, and even just a two CD thing would've been nice. Ah well, at least they did a nice package this time even if ultimately I'm skipping it.
I remember you had to decline talking to everyone else at flanoir, and he'll talk to you. Can't remember if there was any other prerequisites.
That's no longer the case as I stated earlier and in the OP.
Thanks, worried after I read the op. Can't wait to beat this game 7 times or whatever for the platinum. I think my GCN version has like 20 different files. Still a top ten game of all time for me.
Freezasaurus
Member
So are they going to keep up their recent tradition and sell DLC of levels and gald for this one, too? I think it's a bit unnecessary and it cheapens the experience.
Considering how little effort they put into this HD port, I doubt they created a DLC system for this.
Definitely unnecessary, but the experience and gald drops are balanced properly and it's hidden away on a store page. I'm fine with a few idiots being milked as long as the game balance remains unaffected.
The costume DLC is more annoying since they've been cutting costumes included on the disc to push them.
dakkumauji
Member
I didn't see any up for sale on the JP PSN store when I looked it up.
No you're right. But I always found the stats changes to be minimal at best. It doesn't affect much, imo.
Each character has a cameo costume in Chronicles, as you probably know.
PS2 exclusive titles from a GameFAQs guide:
Colette - Lloyd's Clothes-
Lloyd and Kratos - Japanese Clothes
Genius and Presea - Winter Clothes
Sheena and Zelos - Biker Clothes
Regal - Noble's Clothes
Raine - Bunny Girl
I remember seeing images for these somewhere but I can't find them at the moment. Most of these are obtained via the Flanoir event.
dakkumauji
Member
Here's the new costumes from the PS2 version.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Okay, Presea actually looks cute, but come on Collete...
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Ultimadrago
Member
Here's the new costumes from the PS2 version.
Man, I think I'm actually down with these.
Here's the new costumes from the PS2 version.
I never noticed that Regal isn't frowning in that costume, or at the very least doesn't have a frown that extends to his jaw line.
They were Flanoir based except Raine's
which is from the casino
Don't believe they changed it.
And yes it's as tedious as it sounds. I used a Codebreaker on JPN PS2 Symphonia so I didn't have to beat it 5 times lol.
We have no info on the Vesperia and Xillia 2 ones. They might be removed or kept Xillia 2 until it releases here which would be moronic tbh. Give Vesperia to those who have Graces F save file and Xillia 2 for Xillia 1 save file makes more sense than removing them.
Xillia, and Graces F for sure.
I'm not sure if Japanese Vesperia or Xillia 2 saves will work for those costumes. I might be able to check it out tomorrow though.
Well at least you can unlock them by just unlocking New Game Plus iirc.
Mistake
Gold Member
I just watched the dub video, and it feels like a big problem is the pitch or clarity compared to the older stuff. I would say Zelos and Kratos sound the most different, Raine as well in some parts. Presea is close, but is missing that hoarseness in her voice when she does the higher tones.Lloyd sounds the same. Zelos, Raine and Kratos sound a bit different, like on a different pitch.
Collette has a audio line for Final Fury!?
Which one? Did you mean when she say's "here I go"? Compared to how she says infliction after, I think it's the same voice.