The PS2 version was 30 fps. Unless they wanted to create a gimmick 60 fps system, they wouldn't want to invest the time to up the frames for the game.
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Tales of Symphonia Chronicles |OT| 60FPS? I lied. Its actually 30FPS
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The PS2 version was 30 fps. Unless they wanted to create a gimmick 60 fps system, they wouldn't want to invest the time to up the frames for the game.
Ultimadrago
Member
God, those cameo costumes.
Though that sucks, I'm pretty sure I didn't sleep through a generation between the GC and PS3.
I suppose miraculous patch hope is borderline delusion on my part?
Yeah. It's because the engine was primarily made for GC. It's not optimized for PS2 at all hence all the problems remaining the same.
Figured at the time they'd put some effort in for the anniversary release. Then by the Japanese release I was reminded lol Bamco.
Ultimadrago
Member
I'd eat your hat.
Please don't do this to yourself.
It's not that bad. It is just a mediocre spinoff.
Thought it was worth playing for the Phantasia references at the very least.
sixteen-bit
Member
Order the GCN version and play it on Dolphin to celebrate
Freezasaurus
Member
Wow, that's..... disappointing to hear. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BUY TOMORROW!? Thief and Castlevania both got mostly meh reviews, and if Namco shit the bed on Symphonia, what am I to do? I'm at the end of Lightning Returns, and I can't wait for it to be over.
I have the JPN GC copy on me with the GC US and PS2 copies back home. I'm used enough sadly to the 30fps and performance issues.
PSN says 720p...
RPGCrazied
Member
From what I saw you don't get the box with the top cover that comes off to reveal the contents. Its more like a slip case for EU. It has some art on one side. Plus you don't get the steelbook or art booklet, and just a 2 disc mp3 discs.
Can't look any worse than the gamecube/PS2 versions on an HD TV.
Freezasaurus
Member
Is it still fun to play, or does it just shit on your fond memories of the original?
I'm not sure what else you expected. People expecting something on the level of FFX-HD or some Sony HD collections were setting the bar a bit high. TOS was super popular on the GCN but that was like 10 years ago. I don't think they really had a budget to do an enhanced remake since it's obvious it won't sell really well. I mean I think it was a bit too much to ask them to improve/redo the textures at a higher resolution for a port.
This pack in is a chance for fans to get both games on PS3 and new tales of fans to try the game. That's it.
Moreover, it's not the first time a Tales of port is having issues. The PS2 version of Symphonia (which is apparently used here) had a lower framerate and a bit worse graphics. The 3DS port of Abyss ran at half the framerate of the original and they didn't even bother to update the pictures used in battles (by that I mean the battle menu icons, the new ad skill learned tex and so on) so they all appear blurry because of the change of resolution. The PS3 version of Vesperia also ran at a lower version than the 360 version.
Honestly, the resolution and textures don't bother me much. The battle framerate is definitely the hardest aspect to swallow.
My favorite part about the game, as I've said before, is the dungeon design and music - both unaffected by age.
30 FPS
Took out the outlines which clearly they could have given us the choice for it
Localization Errors
Waste of use of the voice actors when they could have recorded the skits.
Etc
Weakest up port in the generation probably.
I think most people thought Abyss 3DS was just an okay port. The framerate was also a disappointment there and the 3D implementation is halfassed but it fixed the godawful loading. Vesperia PS3 luckily still looks decent due to the celshading despite the lower resolution and the added content while mostly insignificant is pretty fun.
Phantasia GBA is probably my least liked port. Then they shit on it further with an awful localization job.
RPGCrazied
Member
What kind of TV are you playing on Seda? Mine is only 32", so the jaggies should be kept at a minimum, plus I use 0 sharpness and sit not close to the TV.
Mistake
Gold Member
Then I'll consider it a mediocre upgrade over my PS2 version. Thanks for the info Seda
OH C'MON.
People don't keep a CRT around to play their old games on?
Bog
Junior Ace
Framemeister.
RPGCrazied
Member
Wish I did, but the thing weighed like 300lbs , lol. Didn't have the space anymore.
Uh, Silent Hill?
RPGCrazied
Member
Not even. That had game breaking bugs.
Oh nevermind, I thought you were saying this port job was the same as SIlent HIll.
But wouldn't you call that the "weakest up port"?
I said weakest not mediocre
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
How does TOS2 look compared to the wii version?
Yeah, I'm not defending this port or attacking it. Just felt "weakest" wasn't entirely accurate considering something like Silent Hill since it was unplayable.
Out of all of those, framerate is the only major issue. If you're OK with 30 FPS and are interested in ToS, there's no reason not to pick this up.
Most phoned in would be most appropriate perhaps but that's splitting hairs.
Professor Beef
Banned
S'all that matters to me!
My PS2 games look just dandy on my Samsung 40 inch HDTV kthx. GC games probably look even better.
Hell no, when playing this on my 32' 720p TV on my Wii, the game was blurry was fuck. The outlines of the character made it look like the image had ghosting image.
My TV was made with special sauce :3
and get this, that's using composites. When I start using dem components..
aliencowz7
Member
Even with component cables ps2 games look pretty crappy on a HDTV and game cube games actually end up looking as bad if not considerably worse.
They get really blurry and distorted to a point that it is FAR more distracting and offputting then going from 60fps to 30fps. I am saying that is as a massive collector of ps2 era JRPG's (Own every one released in the US outside of missing a copy of Grandia Xtreme) and I still play them on a very frequent basis.
You take just about any JRPG from the ps2, make it output in 720 or 1080p without adding any major graphical errors and keep it 30fps or above and I will rebuy it without a second thought. ToS HD hits all of those notes while adding extra things from the ps2 version and as such I am genuinely excited to add it to my collection so when I replay symphonia it doesn't look like someone vomited all over my pricy TV.
60 on gamecube
then 30 on ps2
EDIT: but the PAL gamecube version was 50hz... so i guess that it was the worse version (only played that one :,( )
Gamecube version was 60fps and the Ps2 port was 30fps.
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finalflame
Member
So are all the CEs sold out now, or have they not been put up for sale? :/ Amazon has the "Notify me when this item becomes available" button, so I'm hopeful.