Captin Quacker
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So despite having a signed contract, it's somehow still tarentino's fault
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Taraintino not happy with Disney "'It's vindictive, it's mean and it's extortion'"
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Lys Skygge
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Captin Quacker
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And this confuses me the most, like the theater won't be playing star wars at all cuz of Hateful 8
Syph Medwes
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Not surprised in the slightest... I'm sure Disney is seeing so much green, they don't even care.
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Vulcano's assistant
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may as well post this here too, because why not.
GAF is a strange place
Tinfoilhatsron
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Tries to play gotcha
Backpedals so fucking hard
Take the L dawg.
This is why I love GAF.
UnemployedVillain
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This makes your nonsensical defending of them even worse then. You keep using this "hurr why release near a big movie" like it justifies a breach of contract
This fucking thread.
MooseKnuckles
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Between this thread and the other recent one about Coppola's (not remotely antagonistic) comment's on George Lucas' career trajectory, Star Wars fanboys have jumped right to the top of the 'most insufferable' list.
wanderingprostheyltite
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People just wanna belong dontcha know
Hopefully Stern rustled Iger's jimmies enough to do something bout this, though if Arclight switched the screen and its still 70 at least they've got somewhere to go rather than outright cancelation.
Ben Morales
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People just wanna belong dontcha know
Hopefully Stern rustled Iger's jimmies enough to do something bout this, though if Arclight switched the screen and its still 70 at least they've got somewhere to go rather than outright cancelation.
They all must stand together until the bitter end.
This is a shitty move by Disney, but I bet they figured they'd given Tarantino enough concessions to this point that they could do something like this and not cause a huge uproar.
I mean, Tarantino's already basically got carte blanche to make whatever he wants. He writes a script, the Weinsteins give him however much he needs to turn it into a movie, and he makes a movie. With Hateful Eight, he went even further - not only shooting in 65mm (which is awesome), but going with an obscure/ancient widescreen format that practically no theaters can show anymore. Even theaters that already had 70mm equipment had to get new lenses in order to project at the right aspect ratio. Then you add the whole "roadshow cut," complete with overture and intermission - it's a crazy production, and basically Tarantino going "They'll give me what I want, so this time I'll ask for everything."
Which I think (hope) will make for a great cinema experience. And I sympathize with Tarantino, because it is a shitty decision by Disney. But Hateful Eight represents studios giving Tarantino more than he's ever had before.
I mean, Tarantino's already basically got carte blanche to make whatever he wants. He writes a script, the Weinsteins give him however much he needs to turn it into a movie, and he makes a movie. With Hateful Eight, he went even further - not only shooting in 65mm (which is awesome), but going with an obscure/ancient widescreen format that practically no theaters can show anymore. Even theaters that already had 70mm equipment had to get new lenses in order to project at the right aspect ratio. Then you add the whole "roadshow cut," complete with overture and intermission - it's a crazy production, and basically Tarantino going "They'll give me what I want, so this time I'll ask for everything."
Which I think (hope) will make for a great cinema experience. And I sympathize with Tarantino, because it is a shitty decision by Disney. But Hateful Eight represents studios giving Tarantino more than he's ever had before.
What the fuck does Tarantino have to do with when the movie releases? He's not self-distributing it.
SaganIsGOAT
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I didn't realize Star Wars fans are so dense with some of these responses
You expressed incredulity towards a perceptive post. While wearing your star wars underoos.
Nerdkiller
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They may have gone too far in a few places.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Listening to the Stern interview now..
He sounds like a total idiot.
1) He wouldn't do a show/series with Netflix because he doesn't know them and doesn't want people to have to stream through a COMPUTER to watch it.
2) He prefers to record things on VHS because VHS tapes don't deteriorate like DVDs and Laserdiscs.
He sounds like a total idiot.
1) He wouldn't do a show/series with Netflix because he doesn't know them and doesn't want people to have to stream through a COMPUTER to watch it.
2) He prefers to record things on VHS because VHS tapes don't deteriorate like DVDs and Laserdiscs.
ugh_the_boot
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I think we all need to take a step back and really see what Disney are becoming. I understand people like their stuff but we should be careful about giving any corporation this much power and money. Competition is healthy and we are all better off because of it. We should tread extra carefully these next few years as our technology seems to be in the hands of a small number of very powerful companies and before we know it we may all be slaves to them (in one way or another).
He's extremely arrogant and competitive. In a recent interview with Esquire he stated:
Admiral Woofington
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I personally don't mind how arrogant he is, it's refreshing with so many other big name directors being such good people.
Though the ending line in inglorious makes me cringe haha.
Though the ending line in inglorious makes me cringe haha.
Beer Monkey
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I know people are rolling eyes at this, but yes.
Don' release your 70mm roadshow movie at the end of december when the biggest film of the season is releasing theirs in BIG SCREEN (70mm and digital) versions also.
It's a bad move.
Beer Monkey
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Hes an asshole with real ideas, but he has a big 70mm roadshow production that he fucked up on in terms of release date.
I'm driving to Indy for a second screening of Star Wars 7 in 70mm. I'd have been happy to go drive back a couple weeks later (three hours driving) to see the Hateful Eight. And with better planning, doing both would have been feasible.
Do additional Hateful Eight screenings in Roadshow 70mm in January. Cinema nerds would like that and see both.
Monocle
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Loooooooooool. I'm sympathetic to QT's situation, but this is too good.
Not surprised in the slightest... I'm sure Disney is seeing so much green, they don't even care.
Riiiight....So don't release your film because a studio may threaten and strong arm the theater you have a prior agreement with to force them to re-nege on said agreement. Not to mention all the blame should get laid at the feet of the victim of these extortionist tactics in your mind.
You Star Wars fans are quickly becoming the worst.
Beer Monkey
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I'm a pragmatist. Not a Star Wars fan.
It's a very regrettable release schedule.
I would like to see both films in 70mm.
Sometimes you don't release a single-platform Tomb Raider the same time as multi-platform Fallout 4. Same kind of thing happens in films with formats that are limited to very few screens. You force people to make choices. In this case, you force theaters to make choices. It could have been handled differently.
It's just business.
cyberheater
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Yeah you are right. On the other hand it's poor planning on his part to release it anywhere near Star Wars so....
You're an apologist, not a pragmatist.
You are making a false comparison and excusing clearly unethical behavior.
This isnt Tarantino competing with Disney for theater share and losing the battle. This is a company leveraging their power to force other companies to re-nege on any contract that was already agreed upon if they don't meet their demands. As i said earlier, it is extortion in the oxford dictionary sense of the word.
This would be like Rockstar telling all retailers that if they don't agree to putting their GTA display front and center and drop all other prior agreements if it conflicts with their demands. Then to also be guaranteed X amount of shelf space regardless of any prior contracts or agreements, that they will refuse to put their game in their companies stores period. And because of the disproportional amount of power Rockstar holds in the marketplace, no retailer can realistically say no. Especially a smaller retailer with even less leverage then bigger retailers.
He has every reason to be upset, but the cinema made there choice, and as shitty as that choice is for him, he'll just have to accept that's how it is. It's a dick move by Disney and he'll probably never work with Disney again over this, rightfully so, but in the end, it's a business decision by the cinema; have Hateful Eight play and lose Star Wars in every other venue or lose Hateful Eight and play Star Wars in every venue. As much as I am looking forward to H8, it's not going to cover the potential loss of revenue generated by not playing Star Wars
Prime crotch
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I'd question any "deal" in Hollywood, those are more flimsy than a... prom's date virginity? I dunno
I like how you bolded the irrelevant part instead of this "Disney reportedly threatened to pull its movie".
And your statement is completely pointless. The Hateful Eight was only going to get 2 weeks of exclusive screen time there. If the cinema is at full capacity then it doesn't matter whether they are screening Star Wars or the Hateful Eight. Now the cinema might lose some money because they breached a contract.
Keep being an apologist though.
Rekki-Maru
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That fucking mouse knows how to hold a grudge.
It is a business decision being forced into by using the threat of economic repercussion.
We typically call such tactics highly unethical and don't just excuse them as normal business behavior.
ginger ninja
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How does ethics have anything to do with normal business behavior? Business behavior is aimed at maximizing profits. Ethics never get into that equation.
Tarantino can take the Cinerama Dome up on the clause in the contract that states what penalties are in effect in case of breach of contract, but that's about it. Cinerama obviously decided that breaching contract and taking the penalty was a better business-decision than upholding their contract.
True Savior
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What an hateful situation. Basterds.
TheRedSnifit
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Tarantino signs a contract that, presumably, allows such alterations, and then complains when the theater takes advantage of it.
Okay.
Okay.
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