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Taraintino not happy with Disney "'It's vindictive, it's mean and it's extortion'"
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SenorPopOff
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This is why you have contracts with penalties stuff enough that you will actually come out ahead if it's broken.
Lesson learned for Q.
Lesson learned for Q.
I don't think so. Tarantino had a screen booked at this particular theater. Disney said they have to play Star Wars on that screen or they would pull the movie from the entire chain. It seems pretty obvious that there will be a penalty for breaking the contract, it just isn't worth losing Star Wars entirely in comparison.
Also, everybody saying "don't release near Star Wars" must be fucked in the head or something. "Attention, Star Wars is coming! All other business must be shut down until Disney gives the all clear signal!" Jesus Christ...
Chips Fission
Banned
No surprises here, Disney is scummy like any other multibillion conglomerate.
This is pretty much what happened to my father once, had a contract to lease a property but suddenly the owner of said property said "we're leasing this out to someone else, here's your one million in damages kthx".
Turns out he was strongarmed out of the property lease by serbian mobsters and not by disney. So there's that at least.
Turns out he was strongarmed out of the property lease by serbian mobsters and not by disney. So there's that at least.
DontBeThatGuy
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Holy shit, people are defending Disney *reportedly* threatening a theater chain to show their their film OR ELSE, and going against a deal regarding a limited run of a film shot in 70 mm at a theater that will comply with that choice, that was already in place? What a bunch of idiot manchildren. (and The Hateful Eight looks fantastic)
Isn't it the same as people defending millionairs and taxes for the rich? Hoping they will someday end up in the strong position and thus don't want to weaken it, so they can extort others. American dream and all.
Chet Rippo
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Disney doing something kinda scummy? Wow a big shocker there.
I've had a contract with an electricity-company to supply me with electricity for a year at a fixed rate. In that contract was a clause that should I wish to nullify the contract, I had to pay 50 euros per month remaining on the contract.
A different company approached me and offered to supply me electricity at a better rate, and take care of any penalty-clauses in the contract.
I took them up on their offer. I guess I am a scumbag as well.
A different company approached me and offered to supply me electricity at a better rate, and take care of any penalty-clauses in the contract.
I took them up on their offer. I guess I am a scumbag as well.
eot
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Not surprised in the slightest... I'm sure Disney is seeing so much green, they don't even care.
He's talking to Boba Fett there, not Lando
SpaceHorror
Member
Wow, what's up with the Tarantino hate? Dude seems to have a good reason to be pissed.
I love Star Wars and all, but come on.
I love Star Wars and all, but come on.
DontBeThatGuy
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You apparently missed the part about Disney threatening to pull their film ENTIRELY if the theater didn't break it's contract. If that's true, there's no defense for this, other than GREED IS GOOD.
GeneralSmiley
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Christ the Star Wars Defence Force is strong with this one. I wonder if they could even justify Disney extending copyright every time Mickey nears the public domain. Lucky they own so many beloved pieces of intellectual property now, this way nothing will ever have to enter the public domain again. Thank god for a mouse eared intellectual property overlords.
There is, actually, it's called capitalism.
Capitalism is great. But it requires laws to keep companies in check. Companies are not meant to make threats at distributors and force duress on them to punish their competitors. That's a monopoly and those are illegal.
Had the company just decided to change it's mind, that would be fine. However if it was threatened to do so, then there is probably a good chance to sue Disney.
CadetMahoney
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This is not what a monopoly is.
The company has chosen to swallow whatever penalty the contract with Tarantino had included in order to please Disney and be able to show TFA. Setting terms for distribution is not illegal, no matter how badly you'd like it to be.
Disney aren't a party in the contract. Why are they responsible for it being broken?
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freenudemacusers
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Corporate stooge gaf out in full force I see.
Because they went out of their way to subvert the contract through extortion.
Jesus, you corporate apologists are nauseating.
You are somewhat correct. Its actually called breaking anti trust laws.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusal_to_deal
Remember at the end of the day, capitalisim and businesses are meant to offer the consumer an advantage, not a corporation.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/technology/companies/05chip.html?referer=
But im starting to think you are just trying to troll me. Im done.
You should be a laywer for that skrelli guy or whatever his name is....
DontBeThatGuy
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So, yeah, GREED IS GOOD. Got it.
The film is going make Disney billions no matter what, and yet they *reportedly" stoop to greedy thuggery to squeeze every little bit they can out of this. It's pathetic.
all his films are better than every star wars film/tv show/darth vader toasters
I'm no lawyer, but if this is an anti-trust deal, Tarantino should talk to his lawyer, not Howard stern.
Not Death Proof
They didn't 'go out of their way'. The 4 week period is being applied to all large screens showing Star Wars. Tarantino seems to think Disney are being personally vindictive against him, but why should we believe this just because he does?
Your sanctimony over how we should all find some millionaire director not being able to show his movie in his favourite theatre to be this great tragedy is nauseating
DontBeThatGuy
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I mean, I'll take that over most Star Wars movies, including Return of the Jedi.
Diprosalic
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there's one SW film i would take over DP (including the new one.)
Disney are assholes and i hope Stern addressing it will make them reconsider.
Storm Raider
Banned
Ok that car chase got my hands sweaty
Veritigo_X
Member
The Disney apologists with Star Wars avatars are my favorite part of this thread lol.
Nah, they are just fanboys.
Seriously. The best thing about Star Wars are the video games, not the films.
I'm sure Disney will give two damns about a DJ let alone how influential Stern is.
Diprosalic
Banned
well he seems to know the disney guy personally. it's bad PR for not much gain even if it won't hurt them much. i still believe they're going to change it.
Tinfoilhatsron
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But Frog-Fu's on anti-Disney side.
Seems also to be dog avatars and Marvel fanboys (which I guess count as Disney avatars) lol.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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No, it's a pretty simple appraisal. I'm not claiming anything is over, just that the Star Wars franchise, and the idea that it's somehow "special", can go fuck itself.
It is special. It will be a hugely popular blockbuster hogging the large format screens that this 'roadshow' was intended to visit. Releasing The Hateful Eight in December was a stunningly bad business decision, and I say that as someone who enjoys Tarantino films more than Star Wars.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
OK then
Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 yes, and maybe Jackie Brown, Inglorious Basterds, and even Django to a lesser extent.
But don't try and act like that trash Pulp Fiction is better than Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith.
-Pyromaniac-
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Absolutely despicable behavior. I won't be going to do Disney Land anymore.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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I love Star Wars as much as the next person, but those of you who think this is an okay thing for Disney to do simply because it's "hurr durr Star Wars" need to promptly remove your nerdy heads from your puckered asses.
They had an agreement for 2 weeks in the beginning of December and Tarantino had the theater for the holiday season. Disney extorted Arclight by threatening to remove their film from every single Arclight theater, effectively crippling their profits for a solid month. How is this fair?
They had an agreement for 2 weeks in the beginning of December and Tarantino had the theater for the holiday season. Disney extorted Arclight by threatening to remove their film from every single Arclight theater, effectively crippling their profits for a solid month. How is this fair?
Even if it's a massive blockbuster it's an incredibly scummy thing to rip up a set contract.
Q had an agreement set all well and good that unfairly got grabbed away from him.
OK then
Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 yes, and maybe Jackie Brown, Inglorious Basterds, and even Django to a lesser extent.
But don't try and act like that trash Pulp Fiction is better than Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith.
Ya'll are arguing some heavily subjective shit and will go round and round in circles
Not surprised in the slightest... I'm sure Disney is seeing so much green, they don't even care.
You win todays Internet Sir.
JimJamJones
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Look, it sucks what happened. It shouldn't have happened.
But if Tarantino thought that he could go up against STAR WARS and win, that's on him. He knew this was one of the biggest movie openings EVER, and yet he still decided to go at them.
Also, the salt from fellow Tarantino fans in here is getting ridiculous. Don't bash Star Wars because of Disney's decision. Even he said in the interview that this had nothing to do with the people who made the film. They worked just as hard as he did on The Hateful Eight, so don't go bashing it because you're upset at the parent company.
EDIT: Let me clarify - I'm not saying QT is going at Star Wars, I'm saying his movie is in direct competition with it.
But if Tarantino thought that he could go up against STAR WARS and win, that's on him. He knew this was one of the biggest movie openings EVER, and yet he still decided to go at them.
Also, the salt from fellow Tarantino fans in here is getting ridiculous. Don't bash Star Wars because of Disney's decision. Even he said in the interview that this had nothing to do with the people who made the film. They worked just as hard as he did on The Hateful Eight, so don't go bashing it because you're upset at the parent company.
EDIT: Let me clarify - I'm not saying QT is going at Star Wars, I'm saying his movie is in direct competition with it.
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