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Team Bondi's L.A. NOIRE |OT| Watchin' Faces, Solvin' Cases
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VeryGooster
Banned
StuBurns said:
Cole's responses when backing out of a lie are so hilariously demeaning within context.
"I KNOW YOU MURDERED HER. YOU TOOK HER TO THE NIGHTCLUB, GOT HER DRUNK, TOOK HER TO THE ALLEY AND STABBED HER 40 TIMES!"**
"Oh? And how do you intend to prove that?"
...
"Sorry. I'm just trying to do my job."
**Nothing like that happens, btw, so not a spoiler.
I'm replaying some cases for better scores, and there's one new thing I've discovered. If you accuse someone of lying and then back out, their "idle" facial expression changes. Small detail, but I think that thrown me off quite a few times since I did back out of lies a lot to hear the extra dialogue.
I think the white shoe murder is one of my favourite cases in the game as that shows the facial animation extremely well. Both suspects get really mad during the interrogation and the facial expressions looks amazing during those scenes. For LA Noire 2, they should tell the actors to act mad more often!
I think the white shoe murder is one of my favourite cases in the game as that shows the facial animation extremely well. Both suspects get really mad during the interrogation and the facial expressions looks amazing during those scenes. For LA Noire 2, they should tell the actors to act mad more often!
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I sat and played this with a friend last night. He almost went out and bought a PS3 just to play it. In the two cases we played (the end of Homicide) we had a blast. It was probably the most fun I've had in gaming since Mass Effect 2 released. This is really one of a kind. I love this game so much. Bring on the DLC and I'll buy every horse armor they put out.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Just finished the last case in Vice.
Vice has been a definite improvement over the insanely repetitive Homicide cases (my gosh were those cases repetitive!) I mean the game is still monotonous......but at least it had some variation with the Vice cases.
So yeah, the story is still uninteresting and the lack of a bigger story to tie everything together really hurts the game. Im just kinda plodding along at the moment. I still think its solid, but it's certainly nothing special.
Vice has been a definite improvement over the insanely repetitive Homicide cases (my gosh were those cases repetitive!) I mean the game is still monotonous......but at least it had some variation with the Vice cases.
So yeah, the story is still uninteresting and the lack of a bigger story to tie everything together really hurts the game. Im just kinda plodding along at the moment. I still think its solid, but it's certainly nothing special.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
ascully said:
The so called 'overarching story' is really weak though and hardly an overarching story. The game still feels too segmented.
I think Phoenix Wright has spoilt me....because that is how you do an overarching story correctly. It's so sloppy in L.A Noire.
semiconscious
Member
Tricky I Shadow said:
if you're talking about the difference between something creeping up on you, & feeling pieces fitting together, & something that repeatedly hits you over the head with a sledgehammer, yeah, you're correct...
is there anyone genuinely surprised by how the 'big picture' in l.a. noire develops? cuz for me, it all felt just incredibly inevitable
as in, 'forget it jake - it's chinatown...' inevitable
& i think that some of this is just one more instance of the disadvantage of trying to make a genuinely realistic, as opposed to pseudo-realistic, game - unless you're truly clever, it can be very limiting, to the extent that you're sorta forced to maintain a level of consistent, real-world believability/credibility that pseudo-realistic series like pw (& yakuza) don't have to think or worry about that much...
way more room to come outa left field, & be well thought out, perfectly logical & yet totally surprising (& even ridiculous), when you're not trying to keep it all real...
Just finished the game this morning, and I loved it. Anyone who has any experience with noir film will know the overall tone of the game and kind of know what to expect is coming, and I think those kinds of themes will naturally conflict with traditional expectations of what gamers have come to expect. All in all, it's a fantastic game -- flawed, but great in the end.
Ending spoilers:
Ending spoilers:
Ending spoilers:
Kind of like Cole -- flawed, but great in the end. I haven't played any other Rockstar games, and I know that this is a bit of theme for them, but I really found Cole compelling because of his flaws. He isn't the supercop badass that he's trying to be -- he's running away from making decisions by hiding behind procedure and protocol, and even though he's trying to atone for his past, he's still falling victim to what plagued him in Okinawa.
The whole relationship between him and Elsa was handled poorly, though -- I saw strains of it, but really wanted a bit more to explain why she was the only one he could ever connect with. There isn't much interaction between them beyond her one interrogation scene, and then suddenly he shacks up with her. Exploring that dynamic would have helped him seem like not just a brash asshole, but more of the flawed, conflicted guy that I think he is. He seems to be drawn to strength, which is why he's got that respect-hate rivalry with Kelso, and I guess that's what he's supposed to see in Elsa, but it could have really used more exposition here.
The whole relationship between him and Elsa was handled poorly, though -- I saw strains of it, but really wanted a bit more to explain why she was the only one he could ever connect with. There isn't much interaction between them beyond her one interrogation scene, and then suddenly he shacks up with her. Exploring that dynamic would have helped him seem like not just a brash asshole, but more of the flawed, conflicted guy that I think he is. He seems to be drawn to strength, which is why he's got that respect-hate rivalry with Kelso, and I guess that's what he's supposed to see in Elsa, but it could have really used more exposition here.
Compared to Phoenix Wright, it's not sloppy so much as understated -- too much so, I'd argue, but overall while I like the mechanics of PW a bit better (and the whole testimony/evidence system), I found myself a lot more invested in L.A. Noire's whole mood and broader story. Phoenix Wright just gets too wacky-crazy-exaggeratory-anime for me at times; it probably works better as the setting for a video game, but L.A. Noire was a nice change of pace.Tricky I Shadow said:
Ending spoilers:
I think a lot of people are also agitated at how unresolved L.A. Noire's ending is, but, like, that's noir, man. You can't expect a happy ending here. Frustration, powerlessness, the inexorable pull of the cynical world around you ... that's the name of the game. (Literally!)
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
tiff said:
He did it to get the heat off of the entire department's back. There was the scandal with the prostitute that had connections deep in the department, or something, so the dude used Cole's affair as a distraction from it so the news cycle would move onto something else. He also did it to win favor with the dude. I thought this was explained fairly well in the couple of cutscenes that dealt with it...
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
jett said:
Are you
at the site with multiple torched houses and the people get in a fight with you?
Took me a while to find the clue, but it's the closest house to where you start off... the cement wall.
Took me a while to find the clue, but it's the closest house to where you start off... the cement wall.
I'm at the
FutureZombie
Banned
Someone needs to make a video of Cole and Jack set to this song: Rancid- Civilian Ways
Would be totally badass.
Would be totally badass.
Movies getting Depth Analysis' motion capture tech.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704083904576333640932246706.html#articleTabs=video
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704083904576333640932246706.html#articleTabs=video
kyo_daikun
Member
Gooster said:
"Sometimes you've got to shake the tree and see what falls out..."
snoopeasystreet
Member
Whoever made the design decision to tell the player whether they got a question correct/wrong should be shot. The game already continues on regardless of your choice, so why make the player feel shitty whenever they make a mistake?
Windom Earle
Member
I'm around 3 hours in and this game is boring and repetitive. The only thing I like are the graphics. Does it ever start being fun?
I finished a few days ago and am currently doing a second run.
I love it. A lot. Like, this is the most enamored I've been with a game since Uncharted 2. This is one for the record books and a personal favorite for me. Pulled apart, I don't think it's perfect. The shooting is some of the clunkiest I've dealt with in a while and the driving is that kind of hyper sensitive/super slippery driving ala Mafia II/NFS: Hot Pursuit, which some people like, but I hate.
But the game is so much more than the sum of it's parts. It triumphs because it is exactly what the developers want it to be: a compelling, thrilling cop drama. And it champions the Adventure Game genre in the mainstream!
It sucked me in the same way my favorite thriller films do and I loved every minute of it. Definitely buying all the DLC cases. For me, this is gonna be a tough act to follow for GOTY this year.
Sidenote: I'm from LA and I'm willing to vouch for the accuracy with which they recreated the city. Now, I won't say I was alive during the forties, but the more things change they often stay the same. The LA Public Library for instance looks exactly like that. It's eery, but it is so. Cool. God, I love this game!
I love it. A lot. Like, this is the most enamored I've been with a game since Uncharted 2. This is one for the record books and a personal favorite for me. Pulled apart, I don't think it's perfect. The shooting is some of the clunkiest I've dealt with in a while and the driving is that kind of hyper sensitive/super slippery driving ala Mafia II/NFS: Hot Pursuit, which some people like, but I hate.
But the game is so much more than the sum of it's parts. It triumphs because it is exactly what the developers want it to be: a compelling, thrilling cop drama. And it champions the Adventure Game genre in the mainstream!
It sucked me in the same way my favorite thriller films do and I loved every minute of it. Definitely buying all the DLC cases. For me, this is gonna be a tough act to follow for GOTY this year.
Sidenote: I'm from LA and I'm willing to vouch for the accuracy with which they recreated the city. Now, I won't say I was alive during the forties, but the more things change they often stay the same. The LA Public Library for instance looks exactly like that. It's eery, but it is so. Cool. God, I love this game!
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I'm reeealy interested in the development of this game the more I read. But there's not a lot of info, maybe I just haven't found it yet.
I remember RDR's budget being about $50mil, did this totally eclipse that (give or take Sony's original $20mil)? Also, wonder how far along the game was before they started getting all the Mad Men cast involved, it must've been much later than 2006 right?
I remember RDR's budget being about $50mil, did this totally eclipse that (give or take Sony's original $20mil)? Also, wonder how far along the game was before they started getting all the Mad Men cast involved, it must've been much later than 2006 right?
nephilimdj
Member
Cheech said:
I think best era would be London in 1947 for a sequal, would be a huge dramatic difference to this game in L.A.
Huge areas destroyed and rebuilding, people overcoming the war, hype of the Olympics ect.
The beginning of the game is probably the most varied since it's introducing you to all the different mechanics. If you don't like it now then I doubt you ever will.schennmu said:
I've been playing with hints off and have been allowing myself to miss clues and questions, so I must have missed it.Inorigo said:
slaughterking
Member
Beat it a few minutes ago.
It's surely an interesting game with a lot of shortcomings of which some really wore down my motivation to play the game in the first half of it. The more or less unique premise (and the fact that I bought it at full price; what was I thinking? :lol ) were probably the only reason that really made me stick with it. That's not to say I didn't enjoy any of LA Noire, but it's certainly not the next big thing for me.
It's surely an interesting game with a lot of shortcomings of which some really wore down my motivation to play the game in the first half of it. The more or less unique premise (and the fact that I bought it at full price; what was I thinking? :lol ) were probably the only reason that really made me stick with it. That's not to say I didn't enjoy any of LA Noire, but it's certainly not the next big thing for me.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Nah, the beginning is the worst part. The cases are less interesting and it holds your hand too much.tiff said:
TeK-DeLorean
Neo Member
Just want to say the face capture gets a lot of attention but christ.. the music is perfect in every way. From the little piano audio clues fitting perfectly, to the driving music during a dramatic case, the chase theme, and the radio broadcasts, they really nailed the immersion in that respect.