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[Javaman]

GAF Server IP: 68.232.178.184:27015
Steam Community group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Neogaf-TF2

 

[Volcynika]

I piddled around with heavy yesterday, though it was pointless because at one point our team was zero medics and about more than half were just engies/spies/snipers. D:

 

[moojito]

Don't understimate the power of the sandvich! You just have to play the sneaky hiding round a corner heavy and not the wading through piles of enemy while ubered heavy. Often the reason people don't go medic is because there're no heavies, and the reason people don't go heavy is because there're no medics.

 

[Blizzard]

I piddled around with heavy yesterday, though it was pointless because at one point our team was zero medics and about more than half were just engies/spies/snipers. D:

Without a medic, sentries can cause you extreme problems depending on their location, but otherwise you should be able to do pretty well. Standard procedure is to jump as you run around a corner so you can spin up your gun midair, approach silently, and have more control (maybe?), like fat Russian ninja.

If playing on a map that has some tunnel-like areas, you can sometimes catch medics if you're using natascha since they can run out of time to escape as they're slowed down. If you're trying to kill sentry guns of course the minigun works better. I feel like it used to be easier, but it may still be possible if there is only one level-3 and an engineer is not camping it, to do the leaping ninja heavy kill, i.e. jumping off the ledge above while spinning your gun up and crouching. If the rockets miss you, you're close enough, and no one else stabs you in the back, the gun should go down.

I like sandvich because it feeds me AND feeds my medics if I have any. I would probably be bad with shotgun. I hardly ever actually use the taunt or left click to eat the sandvich though. Healing 100% of health is nice, but I almost always just take the instant 50% healing of tossing it in front of me on the run since I don't have to be a (loud) sitting duck. You can also prepare for a fight by tossing a sandvich around a corner or something -- instant medpack to retreat to!

Also, depending on whom you're playing with, spin around randomly every 1.5-2.0 seconds and kill the spy behind you (look out, now he's above you).

Spoiler

Disclaimer: I may be a terrible heavy in comparison to other heavies, terms and conditions apply, your mileage may vary.

 

[Ultimatum]

I play heavy a lot on gaf server. it's fun.

Also, depending on whom you're playing with, spin around randomly every 1.5-2.0 seconds and kill the spy behind you (look out, now he's above you).

this cannot be emphasised enough lol

 

[Twig]

It's okay. On the GAF server heavies are immune to backstab. At least, my backstab.

 

[Azure Dream]

this cannot be emphasised enough lol

How did he get behind you into this closed room? You'll never know.

 

[Yasae]

Been playing on the Hal's Playground servers. (Note: their profanity filters are rife with gay slurs.)

Suddenly scout and soldier are much more fun at 68ms. I play with the Direct Hit and score actual points. This is why I probably won't enter any tournaments; my ping will ruin the fun. Playing on the GAF server is more for community.

GAF Server IP: 68.232.178.184:27015
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[n0b]

Heavy without medic is hard, but there are a couple things to remember that can help you do reasonably well:

1. You are the most vulnerable and easy to hit class in the game, and you also become a priority target for every enemy once you come in sight (so you take more damage than most classes). If you go into a fight with less than half health you will probably die, and if you are an idiot that spends the whole time spun up you will die even sooner to snipers and explosive classes because you move so slow.

2. Pretend you are a slow pyro. You have no range on your main gun. (no matter how many shitty heavies you see shooting off in the distance) You won't do any significant damage unless you get close. Use the shotgun as a deterrent as you close the distance if you are forced into the open, or play mainly with ambush tactics.

3. MEMORIZE THE FUCKING MAPS. This should be a no-brainer for just playing the game in general, but as heavy it is especially important because of how fast you go through ammo and health. If you need to make a stand, do it where you have an easy retreat point with health and ammo packs. (50% h/a packs are usually minimum requirements if you want to make a long term stand) Get yourself a health pack the second there is a lull in the combat, and keep yourself topped off, not only does that mean it will respawn again by the time you should need it, heavy is not a good class for retreating, so you are less likely to get to the health pack if you really need it.

Don't understimate the power of the sandvich!

Sandvich is only useful for keeping medics alive, but that can also be achieved by killing harder and escorting the medic to health packs (which are often conveniently placed by ammo packs) If you don't have a medic and you still follow that routine, the health pack will heal you.

Blizzard is the only heavy that I have seen that makes good use of the sandvich, follow his advice if you insist on using it.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

Heavy without medic is hard, but there are a couple things to remember that can help you do reasonably well:

1. You are the most vulnerable and easy to hit class in the game, and you also become a priority target for every enemy once you come in sight (so you take more damage than most classes). If you go into a fight with less than half health you will probably die, and if you are an idiot that spends the whole time spun up you will die even sooner to snipers and explosive classes because you move so slow.

2. Pretend you are a slow pyro. You have no range on your main gun. (no matter how many shitty heavies you see shooting off in the distance) You won't do any significant damage unless you get close. Use the shotgun as a deterrent as you close the distance if you are forced into the open, or play mainly with ambush tactics.

3. MEMORIZE THE FUCKING MAPS. This should be a no-brainer for just playing the game in general, but as heavy it is especially important because of how fast you go through ammo and health. If you need to make a stand, do it where you have an easy retreat point with health and ammo packs. (50% h/a packs are usually minimum requirements if you want to make a long term stand) Get yourself a health pack the second there is a lull in the combat, and keep yourself topped off, not only does that mean it will respawn again by the time you should need it, heavy is not a good class for retreating, so you are less likely to get to the health pack if you really need it.



Sandvich is only useful for keeping medics alive, but that can also be achieved by killing harder and escorting the medic to health packs (which are often conveniently placed by ammo packs) If you don't have a medic and you still follow that routine, the health pack will heal you.

Blizzard is the only heavy that I have seen that makes good use of the sandvich, follow his advice if you insist on using it.

I honking concur.

 

[KJTB]

Hey guys, just wanted to drop in and say hi

I just recently started playing on the GAF server under the name "Oh, Hai There!". It seems that my skill level decreases drastically whenever I join the GAF server... or maybe it's just that you guys are better than the randoms in pub matches haha.

This server is awesome

 

[Yeef]

Hey guys, just wanted to drop in and say hi

I just recently started playing on the GAF server under the name "Oh, Hai There!". It seems that my skill level decreases drastically whenever I join the GAF server... or maybe it's just that you guys are better than the randoms in pub matches haha.

This server is awesome

You don't seem to have any problems shooting me in the head! >:[

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

edit: 208.77.19.71:27015

Jesus H. Christ

Was just on the most batshit insane server ever!

I...don't even really know how to begin to describe it.

You have energy and shields

When you kill people, you gain XP and level up one of your stats...what they did the fuck if I know.

You also accumulate...or somehow get...I can't tell since it was so chaotic, vespene gas and crystals which you can use to buy stuff. you pulled up your msg and typed 'buy' and you chose from a list of options.

One was to give you a free life. Another option was such a pain in the fucking neck, you're a mole and you teleport into their spawn and can wreck havoc until someone kills you. There's stuff to make you half visible, there's stuff that steals crystals. There were lightning bolts and other shit flying all over the place.

Yes...this is TF2....

 

[Plywood]

Server IP?

 

[Yeef]

Google says that it's a mod called SourceCraft

[Edit]More informative and up-to-date link: http://www.jigglysfunhouse.net/nukeevo/modules.php?name=Guiki

 

[zombieshavebrains]

Is pl_minepit on the server? If not any chance of it getting on there?

 

[Yeef]

Is pl_minepit on the server? If not any chance of it getting on there?

The only customs that the GAF server runs are Cashworks and Frontier. If you want other maps on there you'll have to talk to Javaman.

 

[rac]

Google says that it's a mod called SourceCraft

[Edit]More informative and up-to-date link: http://www.jigglysfunhouse.net/nukeevo/modules.php?name=Guiki

I just searched jiggly's fun house on youtube to see what the game was like and I saw videos of their admins being obnoxious. I'd post the videos but I'd rather not get banned for posting racist content. Lets just say I won't be going to that server.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

I just searched jiggly's fun house on youtube to see what the game was like and I saw videos of their admins being obnoxious. I'd post the videos but I'd rather not get banned for posting racist content. Lets just say I won't be going to that server.

Hmm...I didn't run into any racism or trouble there. Just me with a lot of "what the hell is going on?! Why is that Heavy flying in the air?! Why did that pyro shoot lightning bolts at me?! WHAT SERVER IS THIS!?" and the admins would say, "It's the best server! Don't complain"

 

[zombieshavebrains]

The only customs that the GAF server runs are Cashworks and Frontier. If you want other maps on there you'll have to talk to Javaman.

Sweet. I know minecraft is pretty popular with the master race on this board so maybe you guys would like it.

 

[KJTB]

You don't seem to have any problems shooting me in the head! >:[

Sorry about that :lol

 

[Yasae]

Face it. You're all scrubs.

 

[Azure Dream]

edit: 208.77.19.71:27015

Jesus H. Christ

Was just on the most batshit insane server ever!

I...don't even really know how to begin to describe it.

Oh, Jiggly's Fun House, I've played on that server before. I remember it being one of my earliest stops after first getting the PC version, that was just slightly jarring coming from the 360.

I only barely understood the SourceCraft stuff though, I didn't bother to look up a guide, so thanks for the link. Definitely weird stuff in that server, like Engineers being able to pick up working sentries way before the Engineer update, and even being able to throw them into position. It's fun for something different, though.

 

[fallengorn]

The only customs that the GAF server runs are Cashworks and Frontier. If you want other maps on there you'll have to talk to Javaman.

I want to play panic again. But my request falls on deaf ears.

 

[Corky]

I'm rather lttp to TF2, my pc is at repair so I thought I'd put my recently bought OB to good use. So I installed tf2 on my laptop. It's barely playeable at the lowest settings and all but I can live with it. What I can't live with however is the fact that I expect at any moment now receive an achievment or reward for being the worlds worst tf2 player.

I mean good GOD!

I'm not new to online competetive multiplayer, nor am I new to online fps. I actually dabble once in a week in some CSS and fare rather well. But tf2, sheeeesh.... I average around 2k per 10 deaths if I'm lucky. I don't know if its just me but I can't find an ingame tutorial for the life of me. I can find a "target" training, but other than that. Nothing.


Halp gaf I want to enjoy this game but right now I feel like every game I set foot into, I turn into mincemeat

 

[Spotless Mind]

I'm not new to online competetive multiplayer, nor am I new to online fps. I actually dabble once in a week in some CSS and fare rather well. But tf2, sheeeesh.... I average around 2k per 10 deaths if I'm lucky. I don't know if its just me but I can't find an ingame tutorial for the life of me. I can find a "target" training, but other than that. Nothing.


Halp gaf I want to enjoy this game but right now I feel like every game I set foot into, I turn into mincemeat

Sounds like a normal game of TF2 to me.

 

[firex]

I'm rather lttp to TF2, my pc is at repair so I thought I'd put my recently bought OB to good use. So I installed tf2 on my laptop. It's barely playeable at the lowest settings and all but I can live with it. What I can't live with however is the fact that I expect at any moment now receive an achievment or reward for being the worlds worst tf2 player.

I mean good GOD!

I'm not new to online competetive multiplayer, nor am I new to online fps. I actually dabble once in a week in some CSS and fare rather well. But tf2, sheeeesh.... I average around 2k per 10 deaths if I'm lucky. I don't know if its just me but I can't find an ingame tutorial for the life of me. I can find a "target" training, but other than that. Nothing.


Halp gaf I want to enjoy this game but right now I feel like every game I set foot into, I turn into mincemeat

You have to learn the maps, and then learn what the classes can do and how to react as whatever class you are playing. I think the trap fps veterans like us fall into (or fell into in my case) is thinking "what class would be good in that situation" and going with that instead of picking a class, learning it pretty well, and finding out how that class deals with all situations.

I'd really recommend you do a LAN server if you want to learn maps, and don't worry at all about k:d. That kind of shit is for CS players and stereotypically obnoxious competitive TF2 players. Your points in general are way more important, and frankly you can wind up with a terrible score or k:d ratio through no real fault of your own if you are on a bad team on a public server, for example.

 

[Yeef]

I'm rather lttp to TF2, my pc is at repair so I thought I'd put my recently bought OB to good use. So I installed tf2 on my laptop. It's barely playeable at the lowest settings and all but I can live with it. What I can't live with however is the fact that I expect at any moment now receive an achievment or reward for being the worlds worst tf2 player.

I mean good GOD!

I'm not new to online competetive multiplayer, nor am I new to online fps. I actually dabble once in a week in some CSS and fare rather well. But tf2, sheeeesh.... I average around 2k per 10 deaths if I'm lucky. I don't know if its just me but I can't find an ingame tutorial for the life of me. I can find a "target" training, but other than that. Nothing.


Halp gaf I want to enjoy this game but right now I feel like every game I set foot into, I turn into mincemeat

TF2 is the sort of game where even good players will die a lot. As you get more used to the different strengths and weaknesses of the different classes your survivability will go up, but you'll still die a lot.

If you're really looking for training after finishing target practice there's a training version of Dustbowl you can play with bots. You can only play Soldier though. It's very rudimentary stuff though. The best way to learn the game is just to keep playing and occasionally hit up the wiki when you're confused/interested about something.

 

[firex]

you can swap classes in the training version of dustbowl. Or just fire up offline practice, pick a map from the list, and play whatever class you want. I don't recommend spy since the human element is necessary to play spy effectively (and bots glitch out and sometimes see through cloak/disguise) but it's good for learning almost any other class.

well ok, I wouldn't recommend medic because you'd have to rely on assisting bots, but it's good for every class that isn't spy/medic, and medic is easier to learn with other players anyway.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

You have to learn the maps, and then learn what the classes can do and how to react as whatever class you are playing. I think the trap fps veterans like us fall into (or fell into in my case) is thinking "what class would be good in that situation" and going with that instead of picking a class, learning it pretty well, and finding out how that class deals with all situations.

I'd really recommend you do a LAN server if you want to learn maps, and don't worry at all about k:d. That kind of shit is for CS players and stereotypically obnoxious competitive TF2 players. Your points in general are way more important, and frankly you can wind up with a terrible score or k:d ratio through no real fault of your own if you are on a bad team on a public server, for example.

I agree and disagree.

Learn the maps. Where the health is, where the shortcuts are, where the sneaky spots are to hide to ambush people. This will help lots when you're low on health or being chased and you're running to some health or a spawn.

You can play any class you want to be credit to team, unless you want to go spy or sniper and there are already 2 of them. TBH, you can play any class in any situation, though it may involve running away and supporting or waiting for more members before attacking. Unless you're REALLY good, it's hard to outfrag the other team if they outnumber you.

If you want to learn, just come play on the GAF or GG servers. They're good places to learn the basic game and good enough so that you can work on handling different situations.

K-D is not important, and despite what firex says, comp players aren't worried about K-D either. I've seen sollys and scouts suicide to kill the other team's medic or suicide in a backcap to provide a distraction plenty of times. They KNOW they're going to die, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme so long as you win.

If you've got any questions, you can also post them here and we'll get back to you or add us to your friends list and we'll explain the little nuances of the game that you may miss. I suggest starting out as a medic and watching how others react, which is how I picked up what players do. The last person I played with who 'dabbled' in CSS was this freakin beast of a player on tf2lobby.com, which is a 6v6 comp type of set up. The guy had no games played on it, but was sniping everyone in sight. I figure, well...maybe he's just a good sniper. He switches to the other classes and still manages to contribute.

 

[firex]

I didn't mean actual competitive players, but like the terrible stereotypical ones who think they are above everyone else. I've run into a few of those on different servers where they're just bragging about all their kills with low deaths.

 

[DogWelder]

TF2 is the sort of game where even good players will die a lot. As you get more used to the different strengths and weaknesses of the different classes your survivability will go up, but you'll still die a lot.

If you're really looking for training after finishing target practice there's a training version of Dustbowl you can play with bots. You can only play Soldier though. It's very rudimentary stuff though.

You can have offline practice on three maps with bots and choose any class. Whatchu talkin' 'bout?

 

[Boonoo]

I didn't mean actual competitive players, but like the terrible stereotypical ones who think they are above everyone else. I've run into a few of those on different servers where they're just bragging about all their kills with low deaths.

pub all-stars


As for learning TF2. Don't bother messing around with the bots. Just play around and try and find a class you like, and then work on getting better at that class. Soldier and demo are both pretty good starting classes. The most important thing is too get a good feel for the general flow of the game. You'll pick up the class stuff as you go.

 

[EvilMario]

pub all-stars


As for learning TF2. Don't bother messing around with the bots. Just play around and try and find a class you like, and then work on getting better at that class. Soldier and demo are both pretty good starting classes. The most important thing is too get a good feel for the general flow of the game. You'll pick up the class stuff as you go.

Good advice about just jumping in. You'll learn next to nothing from the tutorial, unless you're a total PC FPS newcomer.

The bold is what I question.. Soldier might be an okay starting class for spamming rockets, but you'll take quite a bit of time learning to jump, where to actually put the rockets to juggle, and you're likely to lose almost every match up. Demoman is in the same boat, but even more so. Aiming grenades, is not an easy task, and likewise, he's not a conventional gun class.

In my opinion, if you're just jumping onto a server like GAF, Pyro and Medic are two of the easier classes to pick up. Playing Medic allows you to stick with and watch other classes at work, learning their moves, and techniques. I would rather have a new Medic at least trying to heal people than a Demo just fail spamming grenades.

Pyro (and possibly Heavy) are the two offensive classes that are easiest to begin with, although mastering both is tough. A new Pyro can be effective if they learn to Spy check, and Airblast right away. A Heavy will win many one on one match ups if he is careful about picking his fights.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

I didn't mean actual competitive players, but like the terrible stereotypical ones who think they are above everyone else. I've run into a few of those on different servers where they're just bragging about all their kills with low deaths.

Pub snipers? :lol

 

[Drkirby]

Well, since Gaf's Minecraft server seems to be done with for a while, I guess I"ll get back into TF2 tonight if I am not feeling to tired after work.

 

[Yeef]

You can have offline practice on three maps with bots and choose any class. Whatchu talkin' 'bout?

There's a difference between offline practice and training.

In training you're always on blue and always a soldier. The other bots on your team won't capture the point unless you're on it too. Once you get passed the first map it introduces the medic and teaches you about calling for medic and how uber works. I didn't bother to play through to the last map, but I'm sure that teaches you something else as well.

[Edit]
Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBkfIkTjFvw

 

[Boonoo]

Good advice about just jumping in. You'll learn next to nothing from the tutorial, unless you're a total PC FPS newcomer.

The bold is what I question.. Soldier might be an okay starting class for spamming rockets, but you'll take quite a bit of time learning to jump, where to actually put the rockets to juggle, and you're likely to lose almost every match up. Demoman is in the same boat, but even more so. Aiming grenades, is not an easy task, and likewise, he's not a conventional gun class.

In my opinion, if you're just jumping onto a server like GAF, Pyro and Medic are two of the easier classes to pick up. Playing Medic allows you to stick with and watch other classes at work, learning their moves, and techniques. I would rather have a new Medic at least trying to heal people than a Demo just fail spamming grenades.

Pyro (and possibly Heavy) are the two offensive classes that are easiest to begin with, although mastering both is tough. A new Pyro can be effective if they learn to Spy check, and Airblast right away. A Heavy will win many one on one match ups if he is careful about picking his fights.

I lean towards soldier and demo for several reasons. They both strike a great balance between mobility, offence and defense.

Both are able to either spam from behind the lines if you're feeling a little hesitant or duke it out in the front lines. This ability to spam, I think , is key. It allows newer players to contribute from a relatively safe position without dying every two seconds. There's nothing worse than spawning as a heavy and slowly running to the front lines only to get headshot. Soldier/demo are able to better contribute without putting themselves in harms way. As you've said this spam can be pretty worthless at the beginning, but it doesn't take too long for a demo or soldier to gravitate towards the proper corners or sentry farms. There's a difference between mindful and mindless spam.

And while most new players will have trouble in any sort of 1v1 situation (except for the currently OP heavy), I wouldn't necessarily shy away from the class because the mechanics have a learning curve.
That said, even new players will be able to do some damage in the thick of things.

More so than heavy or pyro I think that with these two I think that you can really feel it as you get better; in that regard they offer a new player a smoother experience curve. With heavy/pyro the actual mechanics are simple enough that your deaths will often be a result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Learning the maps is still important for soldier/demo, but you're much less at the mercy of that knowledge.

Mainly, though, I'm just feeling prejudiced towards heavy/pyro, and I think they teach you sloppy habits. (and pyro needs a buff and heavy needs a nerf)

I think you're right about going medic being the most useful thing someone new can do, but I don't think it's the most fun (in that you're really relying on , and personally I've never had much luck learning from the people that I'm healing.

 

[moojito]

Being recently a newbie myself, one thing that the "go a medic" people never pointed out is there's a certain level of expectation on you as a healer to uber the right people at the right time to help with a push against a well entrenched foe. I felt pretty embarassed a few times early on with the "wtf moo!" comments when I didn't do that.

I'm eternally grateful to that one heavy whose name I forget on the HH servers who must have recognised I was new to it and gave great instructions "wait here til you have uber".. "ok jump through this window with me and hit the uber!" etc. I never realised until I did that how essential a good uber is to breaking a stalemate on some maps.

 

[Boonoo]

Being recently a newbie myself, one thing that the "go a medic" people never pointed out is there's a certain level of expectation on you as a healer to uber the right people at the right time to help with a push against a well entrenched foe. I felt pretty embarassed a few times early on with the "wtf moo!" comments when I didn't do that.

I'm eternally grateful to that one heavy whose name I forget on the HH servers who must have recognised I was new to it and gave great instructions "wait here til you have uber".. "ok jump through this window with me and hit the uber!" etc. I never realised until I did that how essential a good uber is to breaking a stalemate on some maps.

Yeah, medic at the beginning can be real intimidating. Ubers are absolutely crucial. There are also a lot of tricks to ubering that don't seem obvious at the beginning. Moving in front of your uber so he can push forward against a SG for one.

 

[n0b]

I lean towards soldier and demo for several reasons. They both strike a great balance between mobility, offence and defense.

I would say yes to soldier but no to demo. Demo at good levels requires perfect understanding of class ranges, and has no easy direct fire capabilities. If you start in that situation the most likely thing to learn is camping demo, which isn't that great for the team. Same reason I wouldn't recommend early engies or heavies, starting those early before you have the basics down just teaches bad habits.

I would say start with Soldier, because he has good health and does good damage, but has the ability to just point and shoot. As you progress you would learn all of the class ranges by the way they fight you and start learning the maps. Then move on to Medic, because by then you should have been able to see how other medics work and have a better idea of how to get an uber going. Then its pretty much open. Scout isn't a good beginner class, but it will bash teamwork, movement and understanding of when you can fight into your head. Pyro will teach you how important range is in TF2, Demo will teach you how to create and defend choke points, Engie will teach you about indirect teamwork, spy will teach you patience and ambushing, Sniper will help you learn target priority, and heavy will teach you how to deal with crowds and knowing when to retreat and when to fight.

 

[Borgnine]

Spy teaches you nothing other than how to be a punk ass bitch that everyone hates. Is that what you want? No. Never play spy. Or sniper.

 

[Javaman]

I want to play panic again. But my request falls on deaf ears.

Panic? What's that?

 

[Javaman]

You have to learn the maps, and then learn what the classes can do and how to react as whatever class you are playing. I think the trap fps veterans like us fall into (or fell into in my case) is thinking "what class would be good in that situation" and going with that instead of picking a class, learning it pretty well, and finding out how that class deals with all situations.

I'd really recommend you do a LAN server if you want to learn maps, and don't worry at all about k:d. That kind of shit is for CS players and stereotypically obnoxious competitive TF2 players. Your points in general are way more important, and frankly you can wind up with a terrible score or k:d ratio through no real fault of your own if you are on a bad team on a public server, for example.

Exactly. K/D is a horrible ratio in a team game like TF2. Medics can consistantly be at the top of the leaderboard yet have almost 0 kills in the game. Same thing with engineers and other support players

Edit ouble post P

 

[bluddtheersty]

Is there a new update out that i have missed out on or something? :s

Just launched Steam and the game started downloading a 25.5 MB update.

 

[n0b]

Spy teaches you nothing other than how to be a punk ass bitch that everyone hates. Is that what you want? No. Never play spy. Or sniper.

Actually I love good spies when I am playing a class they target regularly (engies/heavies) because I find the fight with them so fun. I also like good snipers that move along with the team.

I only dislike people who play their class wrong. Like every heavy. And every engie. And every sniper. And everybody. And me. Poop. ):

 

[(._.)]

Is there a new update out that i have missed out on or something? :s

Just launched Steam and the game started downloading a 25.5 MB update.

Yeah Steam just pop'd and told me it just finished updating TF2.

btw I play occasionally On the GAF server. I go by "Exclamation Mark." Some of you may (or may have not) seen me :\

 

[bluddtheersty]

Fine with me but why all of a sudden, the pings have started to rocket through the roof? I'm getting above 1000 ms in almost all of the games i have tried joining and i'm speaking post-update here.Also tried restarting my router/modem to no avail.

STEAM! What have you done?

 

[rac]

Spy teaches you nothing other than how to be a punk ass bitch that everyone hates. Is that what you want? No. Never play spy. Or sniper.

If you do play those classes please don't target me.
Also medics are a must for any team, there should be more than one on each side. Ideally everyone on my team would go medic and just heal me.

 

[trinest]

Actually I love good spies when I am playing a class they target regularly (engies/heavies) because I find the fight with them so fun. I also like good snipers that move along with the team.

I only dislike people who play their class wrong. Like every heavy. And every engie. And every sniper. And everybody. And me. Poop. ):

Don't forget me.

I probably made a few enemies the other day.