That is how I feel every time I try to get a minigun to hit scouts, they move so fast. Especially when the server is janky or when people clip through your gun. #banscouts
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Team Fortress 2 |OT3| - Murder-based Hat Simulator
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
holy fuck that Heavy
I'm dyin', lmao
I'm dyin', lmao
Togglesworlh
Banned
I was going to ask why you made a video bragging about killing such an awful player before I realized that was the point.
Also. It needs to be shared again
Also. It needs to be shared again
SteveWinwood
Member
Every single thing in that video is amazing.
It helps me put a little more faith in humanity.
SteveWinwood
Member
Suck ma nuts.
EmCeeGramr
Member
best idea i've ever read: if a team with three or more heavies wins it shouldn't show you the scoreboard but a still image of the tf2 logo with a "good job, now play on normal difficulty!" message like an old arcade game
Dreams-Visions
Member
APPROVED.
Dreams-Visions
Member
winnar.
They don't bother me that much unless they go vertical and start double jumping over my head.
Anyone else remember this truly magical moment from the gaf server a couple of months ago?
We dominated the first two stages but Blu team got it together and beat us on the last stage.
Professor Beef
Banned
That's why you bring a Medic.
XeroSauce
Member
A Medic, Demomen, and Snipers are your best bet. Heavies thrown in for good measure, to act as damage sponges.
Wendel Clark
Member
heavys ruin the game and make it not fun.
Professor Beef
Banned
Or do they make it MORE fun?
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Bunch of whiners not know how to focus fire and fight strategically the lot of you.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Only on Payload. And only with uncoordinated teams.
Anyone else really want Valve to fix this stuff? http://i.imgur.com/xB8b3.jpg
I made the pic and posted it to reddit so maybe it will get popular and Valve will see
I made the pic and posted it to reddit so maybe it will get popular and Valve will see
By "fighting strategically" in payload basically means not stopping the cart if you're on defense, I take it.
It depends on the map. I've seen literally 7-9 heavies lose on a payload map because of choke points near the end (hoodoo). Mass demomans do tons of damage.
SteveWinwood
Member
Anyone else really want Valve to fix this stuff? http://i.imgur.com/xB8b3.jpg
I made the pic and posted it to reddit so maybe it will get popular and Valve will see
Of all the things that valve needs to "fix" when it comes to this game, I really hope that stuff is on the very bottom of their list. It's literally all cosmetic.
Awwww yeah, coming over to the good side I see.
No, you aren't the only one. People who complain about heavies are just whiny fucking babies. It gets very tiresome.
Hah, same. I couldn't see the cart because of kill cam but that was a dreadful couple seconds before we actually won. Best part for me was the enemy pyro who chump blocked me from the cart by taunting right in my face at the end. No one was on the cart and I had like 2 seconds to get there. Don't even know who it was cause everything was so hectic. I was sweating it pretty good.
That round was also proof that payload isn't inherently awful.
Cloudius12
Member
that point on the bridge was defended heavily, clutch capture.
natethegreat409
Member
The thing that annoys me about heavies is that it forces you to play a class you might not want to play in order to win matches. I have to switch to sniper so much because of heavy medics.
Same thing goes for engineers.
This is partly how the game works though, when there isn't a class limit of say, one per class. 5 people on your team might want to play sniper, and often they DO play sniper, but the chances of that team winning are probably not very good, even if the other team is all balanced.
That's just the nature of the game. Classes counter each other and you need to balance the class layout on your team vs. their team.
The problem with heavy (or one of several problems) is that it takes a disproportionate amount of skill to kill a heavy than it does any other class no matter which class you're playing. On top of that, as a heavy, it's ridiculously easy to score kills since you don't have to worry much about ammo management or proximity to health pickups much. Usually it's not a huge deal in most modes, but in any payload mode it's magnified to the point that it becomes incredibly apparent.
That said, even though i do think the core class has some issues, the biggest problems with Heavy are the unlocks. Tomislav, Sandviches and GRU especially.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The Sandvich could be fixed by not allowing you to pick up your own dropped Sandvich. The GRU are trickier, but I think a speed nerf while keeping the drain would help a lot.
I'm not sure I really agree with this (With the caveat that on tunnel-vision maps like Dustbowl and Goldrush it can get out of hand very easily). Out of the 9 classes, there's really only 2 or 3 that are at a serious disadvantage against heavy (medic, pyro, scout) and even then if pyro and scout play to their advantages it is not impossible to take one down (or at least killing the medic and then getting the hell out of there). If I'm caught off guard a pyro can EASILY take me out with a quick flame+axetinguisher combo and at one point tonight I was (shamefully) being dominated by a scout. Nothing is impossible. It's more about just playing smart and not trying to attack by yourself. Know when to retreat, push up with team mates, and play to your class's advantages. If I get big headed and find myself in the vicinity of 3 enemies I'm done for, 90% of the time, without getting a kill. You have to lean on your team mates a little, and yeah it sucks when they are dicking around and not playing to the best of their ability. But it is TEAM Fortress 2.. it's literally the name of the game.
This I can agree with. As much as I love Sandvich and GRU they basically negate heavies shortcomings almost entirely. GRU could probably use a slight nerf to 8 or 10 dmg per second instead of its current 6. Tomislav just makes me angry all around. Get rid of the faster spinup entirely. If the sandvich were to get a nerf, and I don't particularly think it needs one, it should just be to lower the amount of health it recovers when thrown by about 15-25%.
natethegreat409
Member
Yes, I understand basic game concepts. Doesn't mean I can't be annoyed by it because teammates aren't doing their jobs well.This is partly how the game works though, when there isn't a class limit of say, one per class. 5 people on your team might want to play sniper, and often they DO play sniper, but the chances of that team winning are probably not very good, even if the other team is all balanced.
SteveWinwood
Member
The newest cop buddy drama from the producers that brought you 24. Coming fall 2012 on abc.
natethegreat409
Member
I think this is a problem with Heavy. I've never had any interest in playing Heavy, and yesterday I did this. I have under a hour playtime with Heavy.
And I'm no expert at this game. Hell, I got into it when it came F2P. I just got scrambled to the other team, which is why the scores are so messed up.
EDIT. At the end of the day it all boils down to the skill levels in the server though.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
200+ points. lawdhavemercy
The Omega Man
Member
when Notch plays, everyone goes spy so they can pretend they are wearing the "top notch", is not Tf2 anymore, it's "spies vs Notch"
edit: what's notch's steam id? I'd like to check his inventory, if it's not private that is.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Interesting, I thought that was all Ronin. What did you contribute if you don't mind my asking?
Nice item btw
balladofwindfishes
Member
The idea to add the bolo tie, 5% of the work according to Ronin
when Notch plays, everyone goes spy so they can pretend they are wearing the "top notch", is not Tf2 anymore, it's "spies vs Notch"
edit: what's notch's steam id? I'd like to check his inventory, if it's not private that is.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/xnotch/
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
As an Engineer player. Short Circuit needs some buffs, it is pretty useless otherwise, apart from protecting to half-assed demo spam.
It would be a lot better with faster weapon switch, and lower metal requirements. It would say 25 metal is good, 35 is too much for what it does. Widowmaker uses 30 metal, and it is amazing if you know how to aim.
It would be a lot better with faster weapon switch, and lower metal requirements. It would say 25 metal is good, 35 is too much for what it does. Widowmaker uses 30 metal, and it is amazing if you know how to aim.