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Teaser for the live action The Little Mermaid

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Doom85

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You really wrote all of this eh?

Sure did, only took like a few minutes and I had fun thinking it up, and the person I was responding to didn’t even seem to mind. So the two of us are good, not sure why you’re walking in with an attitude*, but you do you, bruh.

*especially since I’ve seen a few people start threads with posts actually as long as a book chapter can be. If my post stands out for you, you’re either new here or have a shit load of people on ignore
 

Toons

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You got one thing right at least, your response has words :messenger_blowing_kiss:

and no, YT creators don't say "please like & subscribe" to gauge response. They do it so the algorithm pushes them up, how do you not know such a simple concept? Having your video pop up more in relevancy= more ad revenue. You can literally find 1000's of videos on this explaining why. Furthermore, you do realize 1 dislike & 1 like are equal in engagement on the backend, right? Which is why it's meaningful to have a dislike counter & the whole purpose of it, so people wouldn't waste their time on a video be it bullshit, scams or clickbait etc

The only people who benefited from the removal of the dislike counter were big cooperation's pushing agenda's. That's all it was. For every 1 YT creator you think agrees w/ you I'll find 100 YT creators disapproving the removal of the dislike counter for my exact reasoning.

If the intent was simply for that, then they would've removed the dislike option entirely instead of simply obscuring it on the site but leaving the info there. The info there is intended to be visible only for the creator, because its not only algorithmic but a bit of feedback and an indication how the video is doing. Big corporations don't need the dislike option to push agendas because their videos already can get pushed by the sponsored video system, and that system helps them a lot more than any downvote will. Theres also iirc an option to freeze likes and dislikes entirely, and shut down comments, which would be much more eggevtive and pushing a "narrative" than just leaving those there and hiding the downvotes.

Now back to the Little Mermaid. Did you just compare changing of hair color to the changing of a persons ethnicity? There's leeway w/ all source material but when you start making stark changes to literally the main character that's when it becomes a problem, as I noted in my previous post. Since it's not a problem in your eyes, I hope they do change James Bond to a woman or Black Panther to a white guy. Let's gauge the response to that & see if you have the same apologetic energy in favor of it vs the backlash.
Yes I did and the reason why makes all the difference. Theres a thing called essential details, and incidental details when discussing a character.

Essential details are character details that cannot be changed without fundamentally changing the characters story, nature, or persona in a significant way. Incidental details are details that are purely cosmetic and have nothing to do with any of that stuff.

For example, let's take a look at black panther. Born in a hidden city near central africa, he is part of a thousands of year old nation of black people on wakanda that were isolated and unknown to the the of the world for thousands of years. There were never any colonization or slave trading going on. He eventually ascended to the throne he was born into. His entire story in the black panther film is about how his nations isolationism prevented them from doing something about the evils of racism against black people for thousands of years and the ramifications of that.

He HAS to be black. The white black panther narrative misunderstand this completely. His story requires him to be black. You cannot tell that story if he's white, and it would not make any sense for him to be white because that nation was never colonized.

Now let's take Jim Gordon. Jim Gordon is a seasoned cop from Gotham which is generally believed to be in New Jersey. He has earned both respect in the Gotham PD and ire due to his sympathetic by the book nature and his opposition to corruption. Hes one of the first cops to join forces with batman to try to make a difference in the city. Hes streetwise, no nonsense and very troubled because of his position and the crimes he faces in his age.

He does NOT have to be white. His race, much like his hair color, is incidental to his character. He can be tall, short, fat, skinny, white, black or whatever demographic could be found in New York which is all of them.

Are you seeing what I'm getting at? There are times when race is actually needed to be kept in he source material of a work for the story to make any sort of sense. The Little Mermaid is not one of those times. Ariel might as well be an alien. She is a fictional mythical creature with no actual established racial background, her race has nothing to do with her story, personality or character arc any more than her hair color does. This is in fact the reason the original adaptation has her with flowing red hair instead of dark seaweed like locks. They could've made her hair white, green, purple or anything else and would still get the point of the story across, that she looks to be part of to be part of the human world. The same is true for her skin color.

By the way, I'd love to hear your take on Rings of Power, are you in the group who thinks people disliking it are racist?

Never watched it, and haven't watched the original lord of the rings m I vies either actuslly, just not my particular field of interest so no im not going to go that far. Though I do know that there was precedent in the Tolkien material for brown skinned Subrace of dwarves I dont have nearly enough knowledge on the subject to give an actual opinion on it.
 
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“Hey Jim, you holding up okay?”
”Not really, Frank. I lost my job today. And I’m still paying off my student loans, so this is pretty rough on me.”
”Shit, what happened? You show up late one too many times?“
”Nah, we made a movie somebody on the Internet didn’t like the look of and they wished for us all, like every single Disney employee, to lose our jobs. Amd then Satan himself granted the Internet rando their wish, and well, here we are.”
”So let me get this straight: some rando on the Internet wished for thousands of people to lose their means of living purely because a film was made that they don’t even have to go see if they don’t want to?”
”Yeah, pretty much.”
”Well that makes no sense!”
”It’s a random person on the Internet, Frank. Odds of them making any sense are usually not good.”
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VN1X

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Sure did, only took like a few minutes and I had fun thinking it up, and the person I was responding to didn’t even seem to mind. So the two of us are good, not sure why you’re walking in with an attitude*, but you do you, bruh.

*especially since I’ve seen a few people start threads with posts actually as long as a book chapter can be. If my post stands out for you, you’re either new here or have a shit load of people on ignore

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belmarduk

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Has any live-action remake of anything EVER been good?
No thanks, I like cartoons!!

I will say that the new Ariel looks great and has a tremendous voice, although I doubt it will be enough to carry the whole movie.
 
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Outlier

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I don't mind her being a Ginger Black mix with dreads.

The problem is it's too dark (the scenery), her eyes are too wide apart, and despite her great singer VOICE, her Beyonce style run during "wish I could BeeeeeEEEeeeEEEeeeEEEEEEeeee" completely turned me off from any hope of this being an enjoyable film.

You don't need to add spice to a perfectly cooked song. Just sing it straight. But hey it's not the original, so let's make sure everyone knows it.
 
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thefool

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You can only chuckle and ignore it. Hopefully this rotten company disappears one day.
Tangentially, I saw the animated movie a few weeks ago with my nieces and Ariel design is really something else.
 
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Stuart360

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I still feel the real reason they took away the dislike bar was nothing to do with 'protecting the feelings of content creators' or whatever the official reason was, but more to hide the backlash against the Woke agenda.
SJW's dont fight fair. Hide the negativity and then it doesnt exist, pure brainwashing.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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I still feel the real reason they took away the dislike bar was nothing to do with 'protecting the feelings of content creators' or whatever the official reason was, but more to hide the backlash against 'the Woke agenda.
SJW's dont fight fair. Hide the negativity and then it doesnt exist, pure brainwashing.
I think it was both, but it sure happened during the recent woke era. So you might be right.

It's not like YT video bombing is a new phenomena only grilling videos people can put a political slant to it the past 12 months. Heck, there's been video game dislike bombing by fanboys happening years before YT took issue with the feature. But they didnt seem to care since it's not a political thing.

Disliked videos have been going on since YT started, yet YT didn't seem to care the first 15 years.
 
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Hugare

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Surprised by some people calling her "pretty" or "hot"

It's not about her being black, mind you (had 3 girlfriends all my life, including the current one, all black), and I usually dont care about how some actress/actor look as long as the acting is on point, but damn she is ugly.

Her eyes are like 3 meters apart

Her voice is beautiful tho, and so are the visuals.

But I cant trust Disney to make a good remake of its classics anymore.

Jungle Book was good tho
 
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Kraz

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She said she's an Aries which is according to Tropical astrology.


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Fbh

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lol yeah no thx.
They could have at very least made her hot. This girl looks like cid from Ice Age.

I still feel the real reason they took away the dislike bar was nothing to do with 'protecting the feelings of content creators' or whatever the official reason was, but more to hide the backlash against the Woke agenda.
SJW's dont fight fair. Hide the negativity and then it doesnt exist, pure brainwashing.

Yes and no.
It was made to protect big corporations from backlash in general, not just regarding woke stuff.
Big corporations that spend a lot of advertising money on google don't like to see hundreds of thousands of downvotes on their expensive marketing campaigns
 

Kraz

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Removing the dislike seemed partly about mitigating the effect of brigading, bots and also encouraging comments. For readers the comments help source the possible nature of dislikes from gleanable information, like geolocation, age. More data would be fascinating to work with, it's understandable it's valuable.
 

StreetsofBeige

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Yes and no.
It was made to protect big corporations from backlash in general, not just regarding woke stuff.
Big corporations that spend a lot of advertising money on google don't like to see hundreds of thousands of downvotes on their expensive marketing campaigns

It may be more holistic than that. Sounds right that corproations would pressure YT to remove dislikes, but a quick Blooberg article brings up it's also to help protect the small creators from getting bombed where they'd bolt to other social media sites.

YouTube Will Hide ‘Dislike’ Counts to Avoid Creator Pile-Ons​

By
Mark Bergen
November 10, 2021 at 12:00 PM EST

YouTube will no longer show the number of “dislikes” on videos, an attempt to make the platform more hospitable to creators.

For years, YouTube has relied on the tiny thumbs below each video as a metric for ranking content. Viewers often used the thumbs-down button to torment or harass certain creators -- worse engagement metrics can mean less promotion by the platform’s algorithm. During tests, YouTube said it found that hiding the display count cut down on this practice.

“We also heard directly from smaller creators and those just getting started that they are unfairly targeted by this behavior,” the company wrote in a blog post on Wednesday. The button itself isn’t going away -- only the public view of the count.

YouTube, part of Alphabet Inc.’s Google, needs to keep creators happy because it’s facing its first real competition for talent in years from rivals like Instagram, TikTok and Spotify. Meta Platforms Inc.’s Instagram let users hide their like counts on posts earlier this year, responding to criticism about the stress the feature places on young users.

Susan Wojcicki, YouTube’s chief executive officer, said in September that YouTube was a “really valuable resource” for teenage mental health. The company has pledged to provide more internal research on the subject to U.S. Congress.

The YouTube video with the most dislikes ever actually belongs to YouTube. In 2018, the company’s annual marketing promo, YouTube Rewind, was widely ridiculed by top creators and fans. YouTube has since stopped producing these videos.
 
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GloveSlap

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lol yeah no thx.
They could have at very least made her hot. This girl looks like cid from Ice Age.



Yes and no.
It was made to protect big corporations from backlash in general, not just regarding woke stuff.
Big corporations that spend a lot of advertising money on google don't like to see hundreds of thousands of downvotes on their expensive marketing campaigns
Indeed. Corps have almost completely bent the internet to their will at this point, and SJWs were just a convenient ally in that task.

Don't you remember how all the corps rallied around the Occupy Wall Street movement back in the day? Yeah, me neither. I wonder why.
 

StreetsofBeige

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Indeed. Corps have almost completely bent the internet to their will at this point, and SJWs were just a convenient ally in that task.

Don't you remember how all the corps rallied around the Occupy Wall Street movement back in the day? Yeah, me neither. I wonder why.
It doesn't even have to be giant sweeping pressure tactics.

Our company hires YT bloggers to promote new products paying around $5000, plus cases of products and all the digital marketing material they need like banners and graphics.

I'm going to assume most people are smart enough to know it's paid advertisement (hell, the graphic overlays should be enough to know an average person isn't going to make that). Then again, some people probably think it's a person doing honest home life product reviews in their spare time.
 

Fbh

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It may be more holistic than that. Sounds right that corproations would pressure YT to remove dislikes, but a quick Blooberg article brings up it's also to help protect the small creators from getting bombed where they'd bolt to other social media sites.

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YouTube Will Hide ‘Dislike’ Counts to Avoid Creator Pile-Ons​

By
Mark Bergen
November 10, 2021 at 12:00 PM EST

YouTube will no longer show the number of “dislikes” on videos, an attempt to make the platform more hospitable to creators.

For years, YouTube has relied on the tiny thumbs below each video as a metric for ranking content. Viewers often used the thumbs-down button to torment or harass certain creators -- worse engagement metrics can mean less promotion by the platform’s algorithm. During tests, YouTube said it found that hiding the display count cut down on this practice.

“We also heard directly from smaller creators and those just getting started that they are unfairly targeted by this behavior,” the company wrote in a blog post on Wednesday. The button itself isn’t going away -- only the public view of the count.

YouTube, part of Alphabet Inc.’s Google, needs to keep creators happy because it’s facing its first real competition for talent in years from rivals like Instagram, TikTok and Spotify. Meta Platforms Inc.’s Instagram let users hide their like counts on posts earlier this year, responding to criticism about the stress the feature places on young users.

Susan Wojcicki, YouTube’s chief executive officer, said in September that YouTube was a “really valuable resource” for teenage mental health. The company has pledged to provide more internal research on the subject to U.S. Congress.

The YouTube video with the most dislikes ever actually belongs to YouTube. In 2018, the company’s annual marketing promo, YouTube Rewind, was widely ridiculed by top creators and fans. YouTube has since stopped producing these videos.

I'd take that with a giant grain of salt.
Of course Youtube knows they can't just say it's to protect their big advertisers, no one reacts nicely to news about protecting big corporations. They had to find a way to frame it as a positive thing so "protecting small creators" and "mental health" were what they focused on. Because how can you get angry about them doing something to protect the mental health of small creators you monster?

Same way how phone manufacturers always talk about the environment to justify no longer shipping their devices with a charger, they never mention the million (or reportedly billion) they are saving in the process.
 
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