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[jason10mm]

Why didn't they want to do a live action film of Princess and the frog, let me guess because that wouldn't create so much drama…

I personally would have looked forward to that more than this.

Give 'em time, they seem committed to live action versions of all the classics. Or photo real CGI at least, is Favreau gonna do The Rescuers next?

I'm curious how folks will react to the Snow White trailer. Another germanic tale with a globalist casting. And I wonder if they keep the female beauty competitiveness angle. Or the dwarves.

 

[jason10mm]

I would prefer a live action Black Cauldron.

Oh hell yes, do all 5 books!

Though I'd like to see another crack at The Black Hole, Twenty thousand Leagues with a modern take on the eco warrior Nemo, and another Swiss Family Robinson.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Oh hell yes, do all 5 books!

Though I'd like to see another crack at The Black Hole, Twenty thousand Leagues with a modern take on the eco warrior Nemo, and another Swiss Family Robinson.

What about Lord of the Flies? We getting a version with an all female cast!

 

[Konnor]

In what sense? Sci-ence! Method of science.

She believes it does. Took a look at the stars at her date, time and location of of birth according to google in Stellarium.

While Aries Tropically(can be discerned from the ecliptic) Pisces is her stellar Sun Sign and very strong with her.

Her physical appearance looks very much like a water creature. It's even memed.

The forehead was remarked upon. Aries is strong too with the presence of three planets.

That's just basic physical traits. Her answers were revealing for those familiar with astrological details that can be researched elsewhere for those unfamiliar yet interested in learning.

She was a good example of the sidereal reset. A synchronicity the movie was pointed out at this time with this actress to coincide with need of an example.

What THE FUCK am I reading here? Please someone translate

 

[Bragr]

Analogy doesn't work, my dude. Thor is still white presenting... So are Odin, Frigga and Loki.

It's a problem because of historically there is black erasure. Do you know how many black characters that were actually WRITTEN as black were changed to white in film? WAY more than has been currently done.

The dwarves and elves... At least the ones shown in RoP... The MAIN ones are still white presenting. The SIDE ones are black... There's even Asian presenting humans and Harfoots. But they aren't the main protagonists. Other than Arondir and the Queen Regent, most of the cast are white.

To quote Tolkien in Epic Rap Battles of History... "The genre's called fantasy! It's meant to be unrealistic..."

The analogy doesn't work? Heimdall is played by fucking Edris Elba.

What black-written characters are you talking about?

The main characters are still white? the black elf is one of the main cast. And even if it's mostly side characters, they were supposed to be white in the lore. I am not saying I think it's a problem, but there is no logical reason for this change apart from diversity, and as such, there should be no logical reason for changing Wakanda apart from diversity.

 

[Bragr]

There isn't enough information to make that conclusion except through the weight of your own bias. Thanks for coming out. Please try again.

What about your bias? where is the weight behind that?

 

[jason10mm]

What about Lord of the Flies? We getting a version with an all female cast!

But, that's just Tuesday at any all women office.....

 

[jason10mm]

What about your bias? where is the weight behind that?

Hot air floats, thus his bias is weightless....

 

[Represent.]

She looks like a fucking gnome.

I don't like to criticize anyone, but the actress is kind of ugly... her hair doesn't suit her, the hair looks ugly.

What the fuck is wrong with her forehead?

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

 

[Toons]

They escaped racism for thousands of years? huh?

What about Marvel Thor and the Hollywood rape of the Scandinavian mythology? in Love and Thunder, half the asgardians are non-white. They changed that for no fucking reason other than diversity, why not do that to wakanda?

Asgard isn't a real place. Africa is.

Asgards people are LITERALLY aliens and you're saying they have to be white?

Also, how is non white people being present a rape of Scandinavian mythology? They encountered other cultures all the time.

 

[BeardGawd]

She's beautiful. She's an amazing choice given she can sing as well.

 

[Elder Legend]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

Her eyes are so far apart that she looks like one of those characters you'd create or choose as a preset in a character creator thing and then slide the slider all the way to max too see how dumb of a face you can get. LOL.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Asgard isn't a real place. Africa is.

Asgards people are LITERALLY aliens and you're saying they have to be white?

Also, how is non white people being present a rape of Scandinavian mythology? They encountered other cultures all the time.

LOL. Wakanda isn't real either.

Also, just because Wakanda is a fictional place based on Africa doesn't mean 100% of people are Black. Believe it or not, there's various ethnic backgrounds in Africa besides Black people.

Your assumption is anything African related means it's got to be 100% Black people.

 

[Bragr]

Asgard isn't a real place. Africa is.

Asgards people are LITERALLY aliens and you're saying they have to be white?

Also, how is non white people being present a rape of Scandinavian mythology? They encountered other cultures all the time.

This is a really low-effort reply.

I did not say it was rape to have non-white people in northen mythology, I said Hollywood and Marvel are raping our cultural heritage, which frankly, I don't think anyone cares about, here or overseas, but it's still a complete bastardization.

Secondly, what a fuck does anything have to do with vikings running into other cultures? there were still no people of color in northern europe until very recently, nor were northern gods anything but white. Just as ancient asian or african mythologies were closely tied to the people living there as well.

Secondly, Wakanda is also not a real fucking place. It's a god damn comic book country for christs sake.

 

[Bragr]

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

You are playing some shitty games.

 

[jason10mm]

Asgard isn't a real place. Africa is.

Asgards people are LITERALLY aliens and you're saying they have to be white?

Also, how is non white people being present a rape of Scandinavian mythology? They encountered other cultures all the time.

And AFRICA didn't? Do you understand how incredibly xenophobic, racist, and bigoted everything you are saying is? Like Africa has only one race on it?

There is ZERO difference between MCU Asgard and Wakanda. ZERO. The only difference is that folks like you get to be incredibly dismissive of other folks concerns while pearl clutching for your own interests. Both places are playing to a global audience and both places should have the EXACT SAME casting methodology applied to them. Either both places get to represent their origin cultures or NEITHER OF THEM do.

It's really that simple.

 

[jason10mm]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

Gonna need some bigger seashells

Wouldn't throw her back into the sea if she showed up in my nets, if you catch my drift...

I just hope she doesn't sing everything like it's Star Search (or The Voice for you young'ins). That style of high power singing tends to drown out emotion IMHO.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's really that simple.

It is simple.

The reason why so many white characters in media transition to minorities is due to a few key factors

- Modern day diversity and PR
- It's easier to change an established franchise with character tweaks vs. making brand new adventures and characters from scratch hoping the new IP sells
- The execs have decided if they can pull it off, it'll lead to giant sales as they're trying to make every consumer happy with a blanket approach to representation

The writers can also do the opposite. Any stories with historically minority focused actors can be tweaked to be 50/50 white/minority. Balance it out. Most media is fictional to begin with (even documentaries are fudged with editing to paint a story), so who really cares if a Chicago ghetto or Wakanda in a movie morphs into having more Whites, Latinos, Indians and Japanese people? Why not? It's fake story and lets be more diverse.

But if they do that, they'll get grilled because some people will try to protect their own turf, saying "No, keep it the old way" when it's just as fake as Asgard.

When some media gets more diverse in character sets, they love it. When their own backyard gets done the same, they complain. Not in my backyard mentality.

 

[12Goblins]

I like how these terrible movies made for toddlers can generate so much attention from so-called adults. Brilliant

 

[DeafTourette]

Gonna need some bigger seashells

Wouldn't throw her back into the sea if she showed up in my nets, if you catch my drift...

I just hope she doesn't sing everything like it's Star Search (or The Voice for you young'ins). That style of high power singing tends to drown out emotion IMHO.

Her sister is better looking but she's still beautiful. I feel like a dirty old man because she's in her early 20s. But dang... She's fine!

 

[MAtgS]

What bullshit casting, she doesn't look little at all!

 

[Elysion]

I can't wait until deep fake technology is good enough that people can just swap a character's appearance, including race and sex, to whatever they want. Then world peace will finally be achieved.

 

[Elginer]

Looks terrible but whatever. Seems Disney loves to just throw money away.

 

[jason10mm]

I can't wait until deep fake technology is good enough that people can just swap a character's appearance, including race and sex, to whatever they want. Then world peace will finally be achieved.

Goddamn, what a thought. The entire film is dudes in MO cap suits and you gotta pay to insert an actor.

Want Emma Watson in the role?..$20.

Emma Stone? $15

Ana de Armas? $40

For $100 we WON'T make you watch Lena Dunham

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

Who watches these shitty live action remakes? I assume parents who want some peace from their kids bring them to the theatre?

You would think so but my 10 year old recognizes they're garbage and prefers the superior animated originals.

 

[sol_bad]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

She is gawd damn fooking hawt!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL. Wakanda isn't real either.

Also, just because Wakanda is a fictional place based on Africa doesn't mean 100% of people are Black. Believe it or not, there's various ethnic backgrounds in Africa besides Black people.

Your assumption is anything African related means it's got to be 100% Black people.

For me, when it comes to race swapping, it has to make sense to a certain degree.

As an example with Black Panther and LOTR.
With Black Panther, the MCU is still set within the historical confines of reality, Wakanda has been set up in a way where the local tribes fought over the vibranium from the comet that crashed. This would have had to occur prior to any white settlers appearing on the scene. So in general it wouldn't make sense to race swap any characters. I'm not against a white Black Panther existing though, there would have to be story that involves this, someone with royal blood having a relation with a white person. Once Wakanda opens it's borders to the rest of the world, I wouldn't be opposed to certain black characters being cast as white either, it just needs to make sense in terms of the story.

Lord of the Rings on the other hand, it's not based on the historical confines of reality, it's an entirely fictional story set in an entirely fictional setting. From what I've read, Aule created the dwarves and Eru Lluvatar created the elves. There is absolutely nothing that stops them from creating these races with different skin pigments.

 

[Jaybe]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

 

[BadBurger]

I'd clap them cheeks
Out of this woooooooorrrllld

 

[DeafTourette]

I'd clap them cheeks
Out of this woooooooorrrllld

Her and her sister got some nice cheeks back there.

 

[Toons]

This is a really low-effort reply.

I did not say it was rape to have non-white people in northen mythology, I said Hollywood and Marvel are raping our cultural heritage, which frankly, I don't think anyone cares about, here or overseas, but it's still a complete bastardization.

Which is f***ing nonsense anyway. You realize this is based on a comic book yes? From like 50 years ago? Theres plenty of authentic portrayals if that's what your thing is, but this franchise has niehrer the obligation nor any real reason to do that as opposed to adapting it for its own designs. That has nothing to do with what is being discussed anyway.

Secondly, what a fuck does anything have to do with vikings running into other cultures? there were still no people of color in northern europe until very recently, nor were northern gods anything but white. Just as ancient asian or african mythologies were closely tied to the people living there as well.

Its a good thing asgard is a fictional nation and doesn't have to be historically accurate to any real one then. Many of the Norse gods could take many forms, pretty sure thats canon.

Secondly, Wakanda is also not a real fucking place. It's a god damn comic book country for christs sake.

Its in Africa. Its based on African history. Its background is tied to real African heritage. There will not be any white people there for quite obvious reasons just like there will be no black people in a fictionalized Chinese nation 90% of the time.

I dont even know what you're arguing for at this point.

 

[Toons]

And AFRICA didn't? Do you understand how incredibly xenophobic, racist, and bigoted everything you are saying is? Like Africa has only one race on it?

I didnt say Africa didn't. Stop virtue signaling lol.

I said this FICTIONAL nation DID NOT encounter other races or take them in. Thats quite literally a part of the story dude.

There is ZERO difference between MCU Asgard and Wakanda. ZERO. The only difference is that folks like you get to be incredibly dismissive of other folks concerns while pearl clutching for your own interests. Both places are playing to a global audience and both places should have the EXACT SAME casting methodology applied to them. Either both places get to represent their origin cultures or NEITHER OF THEM do.

Yes there is a difference. Asgard is an alien planet not tied to any real human history. You know why there aren't fish people in Gotham city? It's because nothing city is a fictional nation that takes place in the United States, which does not have fish people amongst its ranks. Much in the same way, Wakanda is a fictional nation based in a very REAL nation of africa, and its demographics will match that REAL time period its being adapted from.

Asgard is not based on any demographic on earth. It predates earth in the story, and thus can feature aliens, mythical creatures and the like.

I can't believe I have to explain this.

It's really that simple.

No, it isn't. You're trying to make a very square peg fit a very round hole. We've had fictionalized settings based upon real regions for a long, long, long time, and the entire point is that those ones will match the real equivalent in all ways but where they need to diverge. That dies not apply to Olympus, asgard, nowhere, krypton or anywhere else.

 

[roosnam1980]

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Great movie

 

[supernova8]

All they had to do was put Amouranth in a mermaid outfit and have her cock-tease the audience for 90 minutes.

Plus, can they stop putting "ooooeoeooooeoooeooOOoooOOoooOooooo" wailing show-offy bits in all the fucking songs?
They did the same with Cinderella (I was forced to sit through it with my girlfriend) and it was fucking unbearable.

I already hate Ariana Grande-style wailers enough, don't need that singing style rammed down my throat in movies.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

All they had to do was put Amouranth in a mermaid outfit and have her cock-tease the audience for 90 minutes.

Plus, can they stop putting "ooooeoeooooeoooeooOOoooOOoooOooooo" wailing show-offy bits in all the fucking songs?
They did the same with Cinderella (I was forced to sit through it with my girlfriend) and it was fucking unbearable.

I already hate Ariana Grande-style wailers enough, don't need that singing style rammed down my throat in movies.

Haven't you heard? Amouranth was once a he?

 

[ManaByte]

Haven't you heard? Amouranth was once a he?

Then Disney would absolutely cast them.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Then Disney would absolutely cast them.

It would be very progressive of Disney but watch out the TERFs might get mad

 

[supernova8]

Haven't you heard? Amouranth was once a he?

Eh? is that true?

 

[AfricanKing]

Looks fine to me..

It just a teaser anyway and the main actress is a great Singer. Film is made for little kids not grown ass men (probs with no kids) to argue on the internet over her skin colour.

 

[fuck_diggity_cunt_ingdon]

As an adult, who grew up when these big Disney animated titles original released, I have some trepidation going in as the live action remakes have been so hit or miss.

As a parent to a little girl, who I showed the trailer to and who was absolutely enchanted by seeing the real Ariel for the first time, I'm already sold.

 

[Drew1440]

She kind of looks like that woman from an old PlayStation advert.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

Lord of the Rings on the other hand, it's not based on the historical confines of reality, it's an entirely fictional story set in an entirely fictional setting. From what I've read, Aule created the dwarves and Eru Lluvatar created the elves. There is absolutely nothing that stops them from creating these races with different skin pigments.

There are dark skin people in LotR but they're not in the main groups involved. Elves are also described as fair. In addition, it is supposed to represent old England, so fuck off with that bullshit.

 

[Soltype]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

Eyes are way too far apart, getting the same vibes I got from Brandy back in the day.

 

[RoboFu]

Ariel being black isn't what is going to push people away. It's that they are revamping this love story to not be a love story. She isn't going to do things "out of love for a man" says the newest news. It's going to be about " empowering women "

So basically it's going to be a different movie with the same characters.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Elbow too pointy, would not hit.

Shes one of the baddest women in the game period.

(seriously though, she's a solid 8)

 

[Hoppa]

All they had to do was put Amouranth in a mermaid outfit and have her cock-tease the audience for 90 minutes.

Plus, can they stop putting "ooooeoeooooeoooeooOOoooOOoooOooooo" wailing show-offy bits in all the fucking songs?
They did the same with Cinderella (I was forced to sit through it with my girlfriend) and it was fucking unbearable.

I already hate Ariana Grande-style wailers enough, don't need that singing style rammed down my throat in movies.

You being forced to watch a Disney kids musical:

 

[LegendOfKage]

And then of course there's Google preventing a vocal minority from creating a false narrative about some work using their own platform. For every show or movie that gets review bombed and goes onto to fail there's a slew of others that still end up critical and commercial successes.

This feels like a "women's sports" type situation. Women are half the country / world. If they watched women's sports, then women's sports would be very successful. But they don't, or it would.

In the same way, if most people who watched the little mermaid trailer liked what they saw, then the like ratio would reflect that. If it was even half and half, the rating would reflect that too. It's not as if there aren't thousands of movie trailers out there where the likes are much higher than the dislikes, along with probably hundreds of trailers where the likes are much higher than dislikes of this new little mermaid trailer. There's no false narrative, outside of ignoring or minimizing hundreds of thousands of votes that clearly outnumber the likes.

As an adult, who grew up when these big Disney animated titles original released, I have some trepidation going in as the live action remakes have been so hit or miss.

As a parent to a little girl, who I showed the trailer to and who was absolutely enchanted by seeing the real Ariel for the first time, I'm already sold.

You could show your little girl the "real" Ariel at any time. I would argue that the animated version of fictional stories, especially when it comes first, is a lot more real than an actor playing a role. That actor can and will be seen in other roles and interviews, making it clear that they're playing a part. The animated Ariel that we grew up with does not exist in any other context beyond animation and illustration. I think that's one part that makes these live action movies feel strangely less "real" than their live action counterparts.

All that said, once a child has seen a trailer and had their expectations set, I'd say that ship has sailed. It's too bad, because The Little Mermaid is one of the best movies they ever made.

 

[Frank Horrigan]

Cast is on point, she looks like a fish

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

She would be great in Avatar, and Avatar is about water. And the little mermaid lives under the sea.

I smell a Avatar Cinematic Universe.

 

[supernova8]

You being forced to watch a Disney kids musical:

Close but more like (when they start doing the mariah carey-style wailing singing):

A whole new WOOOoooOOOoOoOoOOoOAaaaaooooooooooheeeeeeooooorld!