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[element]

hopefully that will work.
stolen from this link http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136966

 

[Wario64]

Next gen will be hot

Oh, and does this mean the next gen Need for Speed game isn't gonna be another Underground title?

 

[Matlock]

Er, misleading title.

 

[element]

Er, misleading title.

were you looking for video?

 

[Matlock]

Yes.

 

[BuddyC]

God, you can practically hear the children crying.

"Please sir, may I have some more?"

"NOT UNTIL YOU GET THAT PER PIXEL LIGHTING ENGINE DOWN. DO THOSE LIPS LOOK REAL TO YOU? WHAT ABOUT THOSE ASS DIMPLES?! NO FOOD FOR A WEEK!"

 

[kaching]

purdy graphics, but this is the part that got me most excited:

Once the next generation of online-enabled consoles arrives, "in every living room, we'll have a wireless hub," he said.

I hope he actually knows something here and isn't just blue skying.

 

[duderon]

If EA can pull those graphics off next-gen my hat goes off to them.*









*I still won't buy their games.

 

[yodathesoda]

Madden= HAWT

 

[Jonnyram]

purdy graphics, but this is the part that got me most excited:

I hope he actually knows something here and isn't just blue skying.

Well since Xbox2 is probably the only thing with actual specs, he's probably talking about that, right?

 

[kumanoki]

I've got to get away from the computer for a while. At first glance, I thought the title of this thread was "teaser of next-gen Madden and his Need for Seed"

 

[kaching]

Well since Xbox2 is probably the only thing with actual specs, he's probably talking about that, right?

Maybe, although I don't recall the leaked Xbox2 specs saying anything about a wireless hub for networking. Still, this isn't core hardware performance specs we're talking about here, its more like anciliary functionality which can easily be declared separately since it doesn't have direct impact on core hardware performance. For example, knowing nothing else about the PS3 right now, we already know that Sony intends for it to read Blu-Ray media.

 

[XS+]

If you guys think games will look as good as that next generation, prepare to be disappointed.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

i guarantee no football game will look that good for another 5-7 years at least

 

[Amir0x]

i guarantee no football game will look that good for another 8-10 years at least

Fix'd.

 

[XS+]

Umm, we'll see real-time visuals of that sort within 3 years time. Just not on a console.

 

[Amir0x]

Umm, we'll see real-time visuals of that sort within 3 years time. Just not on a console.

That's what the discussion is all about.

Although I don't think we'll see real-time visuals like that on any gaming platform for at least 6 years.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Need for Speed could look like that easily. Not sure about that football render tho.

 

[teepo]

Umm, we'll see real-time visuals of that sort within 3 years time. Just not on a console.

make it 6.

 

[DopeyFish]

It's not impossible at all.

Just imagine if you had pixel shaders for the grass (a la tony hawk 2x), about 3x the geometry detail and a much more advanced lighting model.

Top that off with much better textures and you have what you see there.

Though I'd still not put my money on it, i'm just saying it's probably not impossible at all.

 

[Catchpenny]

We'll see those visuals done in real time five years, four months, sixteen days, ten hours and fifty-two minutes from now.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Jenson kicked off the presentation with a brief tease of what EA might be able to produce with the technology offered by Sony and Microsoft's next consoles.

No mention of Nintendo. Doomed!

 

[rastex]

For you guys saying "this isn't possible!" let's just see a little comparison


Madden 2000

Madden 2001

So I can see Madden 2006 being just as good as what element posted.

 

[Pimpbaa]

It's not impossible at all.

Just imagine if you had pixel shaders for the grass (a la tony hawk 2x), about 3x the geometry detail and a much more advanced lighting model.

Top that off with much better textures and you have what you see there.

Though I'd still not put my money on it, i'm just saying it's probably not impossible at all.

I agree. People are underestimating the power of next gen. Looking at a xbox exclusive game like rallisport 2 makes me think that a next gen system could do that need for speed render in realtime with ease.

 

[u_neek]

Including a glimpse of how those games might look.

Might! Fuck off EA..

 

[Catchpenny]

Yeah, I actually do think football games will look pretty close to that on next-gen consoles. Not Madden 2006 on Xenon, but later iterations.

 

[Rorschach]

Sweet candy.

 

[Shogmaster]

For you guys saying "this isn't possible!" let's just see a little comparison


Madden 2000

Madden 2001

So I can see Madden 2006 being just as good as what element posted.

That comparasin might be slightly off, since Madden 2000 was done on a hardware released in December of 1994, and the 2001 was done on hardware released in march of 2000. That's 5 years and 3 months gap in hardware developement. Time gap between XBox and XBox 2 is only going to be 4 years or so.

Also, diminishing returns play into this, and yadda yadda. Not saying those pics aren't possible on the XBox 2, but not getting my hopes up too high.

 

[RiZ III]

I highly doubt any launch title will look as good as that madden shot.

 

[Catchpenny]

Oh, and does this mean the next gen Need for Speed game isn't gonna be another Underground title?

Wasn't there an old IGN rumor that said another Hot Pursuit type NFS game was in development when Underground hit it big? Maybe they decided to push it to next-gen systems and capitalize on Underground's success first.

 

[xexex]

I think Madden 2007 on PS3 could look like that. its not that amazing, just a standard large leap beyond current gen Maddens.

we're going from hardware than can push a few tens of millions of polys/sec and over 1 gigapixel of textured fillrate to hardware than can push hundreds of millions of polys/sec and likely tens of billions of pixels/sec (PS3)

the Need For Speed render is nothing special, just large amounts of AA.

I'd say that PS3 and Revolution will be capable of this kind of stuff. probably Xenon also.

 

[Kuroyume]

Michael Strahan killing Donovan is believable but those graphics are not.

 

[Grubdog]

That Madden pic looks awesome, but the Need for Speed one doesn't look any different from racers on current gen consoles.

 

[XS+]

That comparasin might be slightly off, since Madden 2000 was done on a hardware released in December of 1994, and the 2001 was done on hardware released in march of 2000. That's 5 years and 3 months gap in hardware developement. Time gap between XBox and XBox 2 is only going to be 4 years or so.

Also, diminishing returns play into this, and yadda yadda. Not saying those pics aren't possible on the XBox 2, but not getting my hopes up too high.

Those graphics are more likely to be achievable on the PS3 than the Xbox 2. Still, I'm doubtful any of the next-gen systems will match that. Also, I'm not sure I want my football games to look like that. A lot of CG just doesn't look good ingame. Hard to explain.

 

[sonycowboy]

I agree. People are underestimating the power of next gen. Looking at a xbox exclusive game like rallisport 2 makes me think that a next gen system could do that need for speed render in realtime with ease.

Well,

We've been hearing that the true Madden next gen title will be spectacular, so it's not that far fetched.

One things for sure, graphics like that will end this gen instantly. Who's going to play old and broken vs newness and HAWT?

 

[TheGreenGiant]

HAWT GRAPHICS

I can't wait for NExt Gen. This gen is done IMO. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes is ruined by this gen sameness.

If that's what NFS will look like ingame. SOLD. It does look possibly ingame because of those trees - I don't think Madden is real time though. Whatever console does it best.. mine.

 

[Sho Nuff]

The system with realtime temporal motion blur WINS...seriously.

Look at the GT3 intro. It looks better than the game, dunnit? That's because it's all in-game stuff BUT with real motion blur applied to it, not that fakey frame buffer crap from MGS. The parts that move fast are blurred and the parts that don't aren't.

BTW this still takes a billion hours to render when working in CG, but still...

 

[Kiriku]

The Need for Speed picture isn't very amazing. I think the leap from this gen to the next will be more obvious in some genres more than others.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Those pics, especially the NFS one, look totally within reason, in terms of detail. The thing is, the animation, physics, and lighting would have to be amazingly good to match those details in the Madden case, though. It might mean waiting for 2nd gen stuff on the new consoles to totally match up, but really, displacement mapping would make that relatively easy. That level detail where it concerns the entire field, with all the players and stadium details would be much harder to fill out, though.

I believe.

 

[aaaaa0]

So, what do you think EA's platform priority list looks like right now?

Which platforms do you think have the most developer resources dedicated to them right now?

 

[n-off]

reminds me of sony saying playstation2 games will look like toy story. :lol

 

[MightyHedgehog]

I think it's safe to say that Xenon has EA's main next-gen work. Why not? It'll be first out of the gate and the work done there can translate relatively easily to PS3 and probably Rev.

 

[McFly]

I think it's safe to say that Xenon has EA's main next-gen work. Why not? It'll be first out of the gate and the work done their can translate to PS3 and probably Rev.

EA is a money company, they will be where they can make the most money. Analyst predictions say it's the PS3, so EA will put most resources to PS3 development as well.

Fredi

 

[MightyHedgehog]

PS3? Somehow, I doubt it.

 

[aaaaa0]

EA is a money company, they will be where they can make the most money. Analyst predictions say it's the PS3, so EA will put most resources to PS3 development as well.

It's not PS3. I know that for a fact.

 

[SolidSnakex]

PS3? Somehow, I doubt it.

EA doesn't. They've even said they think the PS3 will be the leading platform next gen.

 

[mrklaw]

I think it's safe to say that Xenon has EA's main next-gen work. Why not? It'll be first out of the gate and the work done there can translate relatively easily to PS3 and probably Rev.

maybe at the moment. Then PS3 will come out and PS3 will have EA's main next-gen work. The work can translate relatively easily to Xenon and probably Rev.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

That'll probably be the case, but initially, Xenon will get the treatment...if only because there's more there to work with...as in it's out there for them to use, even if only early dev. environments.

 

[Gregory]

Oh well. Maybe EA will be able to catch up with current generation next gen.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

EA is a money company, they will be where they can make the most money. Analyst predictions say it's the PS3, so EA will put most resources to PS3 development as well.

It's fairly obvious, IMO, that Renderware will play a pivotal role in EA's next-gen efforts. So, to say that EA will back Sony's horse as the lead is wrong, IMO. This is why they bought Criterion. Instead of putting all of their eggs into one basket, so to speak, they will be able to relatively seamlessly push their wares onto all...starting with MS.