Exactly. He's mocking their plightwhich is not inherently bad or racist... but it does beg the question: is he laughing with them or at them? Quite a few reviewers argue: at them.
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'Ted 2' dogged by claims of racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia
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Exactly. He's mocking their plightwhich is not inherently bad or racist... but it does beg the question: is he laughing with them or at them? Quite a few reviewers argue: at them.
Fresh of the Boat and Blackish are doing well, I think things are actually looking up as we get more diversity behind the camera. That is the main thing getting diversity behind the camera.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, and he's got about 50 other similar Hail Marys, Our Fathers, and Acts of Contrition left to go before his penance is served.
I am just trying to get on your level.
sensui-tomo
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I like the humor, but i can understand why others could/would be offended by it.
Seth Mcfarland probably believes this quote to the letter.
Seth Mcfarland probably believes this quote to the letter.
andthebeatgoeson
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I'm going to post this again because grant land.
http://grantland.com/features/dumber-than-your-average-bear/
Yeah, I'm going to avoid this and both of their movies for now on and I'm going to implicate Walhberg in this, as well. If not for Two Guns, I would really be ready to throw him in the bushes.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nah, my level is pretty poorly designed and not the most fun in terms of replayability.
You're better off scooping up Mario Maker when it hits.
To be fair, those are sitcoms. People watch that stuff because it's there. We don't even have the boondocks anymore, that show is more about anime fights that challenging the status quo and the racist aspects of modern society with comedy now.
When we start getting feature length comedies directed and starring black people that don't check out at "GURL GET MAH WEEVE!" or having a black man in drag and a fatsuit, i'll rest a little easier.
Pai Pai Master
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A Seth mcfarlane film stuffed with cheap and lazy mean-spirited humour? How shocking.
He's got no need for contrition. He did it because he loves science & Tyson. You think someone needs to serve a penance because they write something you don't like? Hubris run amok, man ...
Jag
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See I don't get this. The white chick is a shitty lawyer, so they go to NYC to hire Freeman as a hot shot city lawyer, but somehow he's still the butler??
Honestly I think this is reaching. There is tons of crap to give the movie for being low brow and insulting to a range of people and races, but I'm not sure that casting black people as doctors, lawyers and judges counts as racist somehow.
Bobby Roberts
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It was a joke. I'm not actually his priest.
excelsiorlef
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One of the best films I've seen in years
It's not about absolution, it's about consistency in being terrible.
It's like when someone writes an article about Dane Cook being awful and confrontational at a show , your first response shouldn't be, "my god, what a terrible show he had that night, to the point where he was snapping at the audience and being a prick? I sure hope his next show will be better and more entertaining," it should be, "of course he was. He's Dane Cook, this happens all the time, don't buy tickets to see Dane Cook."
No one going into see Ted 2 should be remotely surprised at the level of crassness the movie is going to dish up. You know what you're talking into simply by the directors body of work.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The writer is missing the frame of reference for that joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQhS2q7IHQM (The movie looks like complete shit, but this joke isn't aimed at black people.)
Carnby
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This. Enough with the fake outrage America.
It's extremely surface-level humor that is intended to be offensive and, at times, malicious. I don't see anything wrong with it, and I'm not a fan of it. I really love American Dad, however, which has a similar punchiness to it (granted, Seth does not write for it, as far as I'm aware).
Peoe seem to hate this. I gotta see it now!
When he left the show, AD went through some sort of Renaissance and hit some amazing marks for a Fox animated comedy. It was a good time. Although I haven't really watched it since it made the switch to TBS.
When he left the show, AD went through some sort of Renaissance and hit some amazing marks for a Fox animated comedy. It was a good time. Although I haven't really watched it since it made the switch to TBS.
NobleGundam
Banned
Lol @reviews
I understand that bit, but there's a difference between saying that it doesn't really hold together as a worthwhile premise due to the ill fitting humor and lack of tact, and saying that it offends me because the talking bear wasn't an appropriate avatar for the experience of being a minority in the US.
I suppose I just find the idea of the Ted movies to be so stupid and absurd that I don't expect much from them, especially not to be successful at making serious social commentary. I think the Grantland article overthought a lot of it.
What outrage? I just see civil discourse on Seth McFarlane's comedy.
Vermillion
Banned
Yes.
King Tubby
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I love comedy and I feel like comedians should say whatever the fuck they want. But Seth McFarlane isn't trying to find the line to make any biting social statement or anything like that. He's just a fucking hack who relies on decades-old stereotypes to get cheap laughs when he doesn't know what to write in a scene.
I'm less offended by the shit he puts on the screen than the lack of effort that went into it.
Is this movie funny? Y/N
Do the "over the line" jokes serve a purpose apart from "it's funny because he's fat" or "She loves burrito because she's Hispanic, and also fat"? Because this way of making comedies (in the Adam Sandler way) is offensive for real.
Generally speaking though, I won't be a good friend with someone who gets offended by a joke.
Do the "over the line" jokes serve a purpose apart from "it's funny because he's fat" or "She loves burrito because she's Hispanic, and also fat"? Because this way of making comedies (in the Adam Sandler way) is offensive for real.
Generally speaking though, I won't be a good friend with someone who gets offended by a joke.
Yeah, and this isn't really new. McFarlane has always been called out for his offensive content.
outunderthestars
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Skellig Gra
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I'm not so much offended by the content of his humor so much as the quality and redundancy of it.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Fake outrage America? Please, go on and reveal your true thoughts, I want to hear about what else you think people are overreacting to since racism/sexism/transphobia isn't a big deal. Jokes are supposed to be funny and Seth hasn't been for a decade, now he relies more and more on shock 'humor' that mainly appeals to preteens.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
He's the McDonalds of comedy.
I don't understand why people are expecting or wanting better from him. His whole career is appealing to the layman. All the best to him, he's done with it so far.
Yeeeeep. AD is way funnier than FG at this point.
FG had some really brilliant moments in the first seasons then it became The Simpsons (although I tolerate FG much more than TS).
Anyway, people seem to not understand what comedy and humor is. Their loss.
March of the Crabs
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I found it hysterical, although the funniest moments were the ones that weren't trying to push the envelope.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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A Seth McFarlane thing with racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia?
*being so shocked my monocle falls out*
I like McFarlanes stuff personally so fuck da haters.
*being so shocked my monocle falls out*
I like McFarlanes stuff personally so fuck da haters.
No, I am not saying that.
Steve breaking out in R&B kills me every time.
Yes. But you can't just take something from the 70s and transport it to now.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Offensive humor is his shtick, there is no line.
Yeah there is. It's not hard to see either.
Dem abs in the video lol
I'm partial to the Rapture myself. God I love that episode SO much.
This. My biggest criticism of his comedy is the incredibly predicable and repetitive nature of his jokes.
sensui-tomo
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Time to quote my post from this same page.
Also I love dark humor so I'm probably biased... hell I laugh at stupid sounds and almost for no particular reason. Doesn't mean I cant laugh at offensive behavior... Its why the phrase "I'm going to hell for laughing at this" came about, I feel bad about what i'm laughing at, I dont know why i'm laughing at it, but I am. Doesn't mean i agree with the joke either.
Well, thanks! This is the kind of criticism I wanna read, more than a general "it's offensive", which to me doesn't have any kind of impact if I don't know whether the actual jokes work or not.
American Dad picked a better "wacky" character gimmick. Stewies "evil child" gimmick died after the original run, but Roger can be riffed off forever with his disguise gimmick.
When you cross the line you;re no longer a comedian, just an asshole.
TED was one of the better things he's done IMO, the humour works in the movie's context (it's a stoner comedy). Not particularly interested in Ted 2 after A Million Ways though, that was legit cacadoodoo.
cutmeamango
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Geez, now I'll have to watch Ted 2 to judge it.
better than any musical number FG ever did. Krumpis killed it.
And I realized I confused the Christmas episode, never mind.
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