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Teenager charged with manslaughter for encouraging friend to commit suicide.

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Two Words

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How did she not think she would get caught? How are people so oblivious to how they communicate? I can only imagine how horrible her parents feel. Ending up with a daughter like that has to be even worse than a child that commits suicide. I guess I don't want to turn it into a comparison game, but man, knowing your kid wrote that and pushed somebody into suicide has to be haunting.
 
I don't know why, but this gets me for some reason:
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She's like "It's whatevs, y'know?"
 
It's usually hard to prove your actions had an impact on someone committing suicide and how you should be made partially responsible. Not in this case though.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Doesn't seem like she was suicidal. Maybe she wanted the attention his suicide would bring? Although I do have to wonder what she thought would happen after he did it and they found her messages.

I don't think it's about attention. I can imagine that she is depressed and suicidal herself, and genuinely believes that this live is not worth living, and that suicide is the right thing to do. She likely does not have the courage to do it herself, but she encourages her friend to do it, because she really believes that it's the right thing to do.

That would be my guess. These kind of suicide alliances aren't that uncommon.

The only thing that would be weird in that case is that her lawyer is not going with the straight mental issues defense.
 

Razmos

Member
I'm reminded of Izaya from Durarara, trying to talk people into killing themselves.

It's one thing for an anime character to do that but someone actually, casually pushing someone to that? disgusting.
 

BamfMeat

Member
What the fuck. What a shit stain of a human being.

Her, not you BamfMeat.

Thank you for clarifying. I try to be a good person! I don't send mean text messages to people telling them to kill themselves.

Unlike, you know, this chick. If I'm getting help for an issue and someone else is also having that same issue, I don't tell them to kill themselves. I encourage them to come with me. If they won't, I either drop it or continue to gently encourage them.

WHO DOES THIS? Besides her, obviously.
 

Amory

Member
That's callous-unemotional behavior at least and psychopathic behavior more likely.

think it's way beyond callous and unemotional. she wanted him to do it, seemed very eager for him to do it.

it's not like she was saying "eh, do it if you want".

she seems like a genuine sociopath
 

Aurongel

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Even at his lowest point, the guy was concerned for his family and was having second thoughts. Damn.
Without this dipshit friend, his odds of being saved or helped would have been very high. That's what makes suicide stories like this such a tragedy. It's also why I feel that the crime here is closer to murder than manslaughter.
 
I don't think it's about attention. I can imagine that she is depressed and suicidal herself, and genuinely believes that this live is not worth living, and that suicide is the right thing to do. She likely does not have the courage to do it herself, but she encourages her friend to do it, because she really believes that it's the right thing to do.

That would be my guess. These kind of suicide alliances aren't that uncommon.

The only thing that would be weird in that case is that her lawyer is not going with the straight mental issues defense.

I'd agree with her being suicidal if she hadn't promised to look after his family. That's throwing me off, but you're probably more right than I am.

ROY: I do want to but I'm like freaking for my family I guess. I don't know.

CARTER: Conrad, I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it.

ROY: I know. I know. LOL. Thinking just drives me more crazy.

CARTER: You just need to do it, Conrad, or I'm gonna get you help. You can't keep doing this everyday.

But reading it again and keeping in mind that she might be suicidal too, her comments do take on a different meaning. They'll understand, they won't be alone. That does seem like something someone who has thought about suicide themselves might say.
 

Tagyhag

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Without this dipshit friend, her odds of being saved or helped would have been very high. That's what makes suicide stories like this such a tragedy. It's also why I feel that the crime here is closer to murder than manslaughter.

Yep, the way he was so hesitant showed that if she had tried to actually do the opposite, he would have listened to her. Dude was just a poor soul, he didn't want to hurt anyone but himself, and could have been saved.
 

tkscz

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Coming from someone who has been dating someone who is constantly suicidal for 1.5 years, this is some shit you don't say. When they are at their weakest, convincing them to do it will only make them do it. There is no reverse psychology at this point if that what she was aiming for (but I doubt that too as those text are cold and calculating). What she did was murder that boy. Why? no idea, but it's what she did.
 
ROY: I do want to but I'm like freaking for my family I guess. I don't know.

CARTER: Conrad, I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it.

ROY: I know. I know. LOL. Thinking just drives me more crazy.

CARTER: You just need to do it, Conrad, or I'm gonna get you help. You can't keep doing this everyday.

ROY: Okay. I'm gonna do it today.

CARTER: You promise?

ROY: I promise, babe. I have to now.

CARTER: Like right now?

ROY: Where do I go?

CARTER: And you can't break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something.

ROY: Okay.

CARTER: Are you gonna do it now?

ROY: I just don't know how to leave them, you know.

CARTER: Say you're gonna go the store or something.

ROY: Like, I want them to know that I love them.

CARTER: They know. That's one thing they definitely know. You're over thinking.

ROY: I know I'm over thinking. I've been over thinking for a while now.

A few of the more bone-chilling pieces from their text conversation.
 
That girl is fucking crazy and i am very sad to learn there is people that fucking stupid and some that crazy.

The guy was not that bright also but damn this girl is the worst person one can meet.

Crazy reading that whole text log.
 

tkscz

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ROY: I do want to but I'm like freaking for my family I guess. I don't know.

CARTER: Conrad, I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it.

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DeathyBoy

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Back in the AOL days (late 90s) I used to frequent chat rooms and have convos with people. I recall two girls who told me they wanted to commit suicide (this is after weeks of chatting) and were ready to do it. I spent hours with one and weeks with the other. Long story short, I talked them out of it (I hope). I was actually considering becoming a life coach. .

I knew a chap online who was the se way. Myself and others tried to help. But people have to want to be helped, you can't make someone choose life.

Course in this case, she talked him into it. So fuck her
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Well, early in their discourse she attempted to help him by trying to have him admitted to the psychiatric ward she was residing in.


Haha sorry, didnt catch that detail in either thread. Thanks.
 

KodaRuss

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This really freaks me out. I dont know how this could have been prevented but as a parent I believe they are justified in having access to their childerens text messages.
 

Filthy Slug

Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I could barely make it through the text conversations they showed in that article. So brutally heartbreaking.

That girl is human fucking trash.
 

Sanjuro

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This really freaks me out. I dont know how this could have been prevented but as a parent I believe they are justified in having access to their childerens text messages.

He was eighteen when he killed himself. They knew each other for two years I believe.
 

MikeDown

Banned
CARTER: You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't.

ROY: I don't get it either. I don't know.

CARTER: So I guess you aren't gonna do it then. All that for nothing. I'm just confused. Like you were so ready and determined.

ROY: I am gonna eventually. I really don't know what I'm waiting for but I have everything lined up.

CARTER: No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it. You kept pushing it off and you say you'll do it, but you never do. It's always gonna be that way if you don't take action. You're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off. You just have to do it. Do you want to do it now?

ROY: Is it too late? I don't know. It's already light outside. I'm gonna go back too sleep. Love you. I'll text you tomorrow.

CARTER: No. It's probably the best time now because everyone is sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck and no one is really out there right now because it's an awkward time. If you don't do it now you're never gonna do it, and you can say you'll do it tomorrow, but you probably won't. Tonight? Love you.
i'm fuckign done with the internet today
 
I don't know why, but this gets me for some reason:


She's like "It's whatevs, y'know?"

I mean, she's clearly human scum and they should throw the book at her for causing this poor boys suicide, but I bet the media took hundreds, if not thousands, of pictures and went for the few that would make her look even worse. Like a person like this needs any help on that front.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
If you're wondering what sociopathic behavior looks like, there you go.

Edit: Actually, she's probably more of a psychopath.
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Again, at the risk of being called lazy, THIS SHIT IS EVIL! To push someone lost in darkness to death. I wish I didn't see her face... associating this act to some representation of a human being is going to give me nightmares.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
jesus christ those texts are horrific
that poor boy
 
I'm confused by how he actually killed himself. He was in a parked car outside, so not exhaust fumes. Did he just shoot himself or something? I realize this isn't what's important about the story, but I didn't see it mentioned in the article and I guess the messages they sent each other are confusing to me.
 

Sanjuro

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I'm confused by how he actually killed himself. He was in a parked car outside, so not exhaust fumes. Did he just shoot himself or something? I realize this isn't what's important about the story, but I didn't see it mentioned in the article and I guess the messages they sent each other are confusing to me.

He had a gas powered pump inside his vehicle.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
Jeez, she's showing straight-up sociopath behavior in those texts. The worst part is the guy seemed like he could of been saved if she had given him some encouragement and actual love, but it sounds like she wanted him to kill himself more than he wanted too.

The story is made more sick with the older news article about this: http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news...cle_821a5d5e-be30-11e4-ada1-7b43f5417c27.html

Fairhaven police Detective Scott Gordon said in a police report: “Not only did Conrad tell Carter in several of his texts prior to his death that he was scared and didn’t want to leave his family, she continued to encourage him to take his own life, and when he actually started to carry out the act, he got scared again and exited his truck, but instead of telling him to stay out of the truck ... Carter told him to ‘get back in.’”

(...)

On Carter’s Facebook page and on the Plainville Athletic League website, postings say she organized a softball tournament last September to raise money for mental health awareness in honor of her friend, Roy.
A press release advertising the fundraiser appeared in The Sun Chronicle.
The event was called “Homers for Conrad,” and Carter wrote: “life can be tough, but helping others makes it easier.”
She also posted several messages on Facebook saying how much she loved her friend and missed him.
The Facebook page that was set up for the fundraising event has been taken down and is no longer an active page.
However, Carter posted on her Twitter page about the outcome of the fundraiser.
“Thank you so much to everyone who came out to support Homers for Conrad! I’m so happy to say that with your help, we raised over $2,300!” Carter posted the message on her Twitter page Sept. 13 under the account @michyc47.
She wrote about suicide prevention often on her social media accounts.
On Sept. 10, 2014, she posted on her Twitter page: “National Suicide Awareness day, I wish more people understood. I love you and miss you everyday Conrad. Help others #WeCanEndSuicide.” She retweeted the link to a suicide prevention hotline on Sept. 21, 2014.
Carter was also a founding member of an organization called Connect-To-Cure, a fundraiser that sells $10 bracelets to raise money for cancer patients at Boston Children’s Hospital.
She stopped by the hospital to participate in a charity event, according to an article published in The Plainville Times — three weeks after she was arraigned on the manslaughter charge.
 
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