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Teenager charged with manslaughter for encouraging friend to commit suicide.
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If this is true...
This is armchair and all that i know but it seriously sounds like she wanted attention
and if she is "personally affected " by a suicide of someone "close" to her she would get it...
I dont even know how to say this but thankfully he didn't delete the conversations...
Frozenprince
Banned
Her twitter feed after she did it is disgusting. Spends a lot of it trying to use him and his death to garner sympathy and attention.
I don't think she was genuine. The way she was forcing him to do it, almost taunting him if he doesn't - that's nowhere near what I'd call genuine empathy. This was more like an exciting power trip to her. Probably promoted anti suicide stuff out of fear of being caught or guilt (not likely), or maybe that's just who she is on the inside. She needs help.
I wish people would show similar empathy in other cases of murder. Very few people calling out for her death sentence (the way it should be). But even more typical murders have people often suffering from the same kind of psychological illnesses.
I wish people would show similar empathy in other cases of murder. Very few people calling out for her death sentence (the way it should be). But even more typical murders have people often suffering from the same kind of psychological illnesses.
Frozenprince
Banned
I would have believed that she was just mentally fractured herself (given that she did spend time in a psych ward) and didn't think her actions would be one of pain to him, but that suicide would actually free and save him from his pain. I'd buy that, a lot of suicidal people believe that.
However she then spent the months following his death starting a suicide prevention charity, using his name to get into Red Sox games, going to prom and speaking out about the ills and pain of suicide and how you can't bring back the dead.
I think she either didn't think he'd go through with it (which is ridiculous given the conversations between them) or wanted the sympathy and attention she got after his death because she herself was mentally damaged and needed that attention and validation.
Needing validation and support is one thing, but sacrificing another human beings life to get it means she is devoid of empathy herself.
However she then spent the months following his death starting a suicide prevention charity, using his name to get into Red Sox games, going to prom and speaking out about the ills and pain of suicide and how you can't bring back the dead.
I think she either didn't think he'd go through with it (which is ridiculous given the conversations between them) or wanted the sympathy and attention she got after his death because she herself was mentally damaged and needed that attention and validation.
Needing validation and support is one thing, but sacrificing another human beings life to get it means she is devoid of empathy herself.
Opus Angelorum
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Why haven't you killed yourself yet? I love you.
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SuperBowser
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well wow. didn't know about the twitter page and charity plan when i first posted. that's even worse than i first thought.
narcissistic personality disorder.
narcissistic personality disorder.
Glorious Ownage
Member
Yep. Reads to me like someone on a sick power trip and then the way she exploits him after his death. People are fucking insane. That's the takeaway from today
The Shadow
Member
They can nail her on manslaughter. It'd be tough to get murder. The defense could argue that she didn't physically force him and didn't shoot or stab him, she only talked to him.
Coincidentally, assisted suicide (the benevolent kind) in some states is a manslaughter charge. It's not a light charge by any means.
SkullHydra
Member
This part killed me.
How can people be like this, man. And she had the nerve to say that she loved him.
Dai Kaiju
Member
Interesting. The girl reminds me of someone I know who is basically Wile E. Coyote personified. Always scheming and equally prone to self sabotage. The kind of person who would swallow a bottle of pills just so they could tell someone they swallowed a bottle of pills and claim someone drove them to it.
Well back in the day, she'd be burned at the stake for being a witch.
DonasaurusRex
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welp jail forever
Strangelove77
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Is there a precedent for this? Has anyone ever been charged and found guilty of manslaughter or murder by only using words and/or text?
Im out of the loop because I never knew there were legal ramifications for saying something or messaging someone things.
She's a piece of shit, but I find this very strange. Im sure this exact thing has happened literally thousands of times by now.
Im out of the loop because I never knew there were legal ramifications for saying something or messaging someone things.
She's a piece of shit, but I find this very strange. Im sure this exact thing has happened literally thousands of times by now.
Inciting someone to commit suicide (aiding, pressuring, etc.) is a crime in some countries.
I don't know if there's a precedent as clear as this one, though.
metalslimer
Member
Needs to be locked up in a mental institution for a long time
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
It seems like it should be simple, but you don't know what people are gonna think, or what her defence will say.
Shame? This woman is evil. From the text I believe she was trying to get ready of him for some reason and the only way she found was to make him commit suicide.Thankfully people know what she did and that shame can follow her.
When someone vulnerable and hopeless reaches out to you, you don't push them off the edge. I can't believe how heartless she was.
She shouldn't be charged with murder. This should be a new kind of very serious crime called manipulation when you fucking with someone's mind's and vulnerabilities.
Also this is what the story reminds me of:
Yep. I'm almost aways on the side of protecting free speech in situations like this, but I'd consider what this girl did to be criminal. Very easy to differentiate between empathy and/or a philosophical belief that suicide is the right answer, and the aggressive encouragement purposefully goading a specific individual to kill himself displayed in these texts.
Pressuring him to would be a better description.
Zomba13
Member
Wow. I kinda thought it'd be like "kill yourself" in a text or something, like a not serious thing but wow. She really wanted him to kill himself and really pushed for it. Not even in a "it's for your own good, you're in pain" way but in a "well you said you were gonna do it, don't flake out, I just don't get it, you should do it because you said".
Such a horrible, horrible person. Definitely manslaughter.
Such a horrible, horrible person. Definitely manslaughter.
My inexpert opinion is that this is akin to mother poisoning their kids to get attention from others.
Secret Fawful
Member
Jesus what is going on today? Those are some of the most heartless, horrific things I've ever seen one human being say to another. This is some straight-up Johan Liebert shit.
unknownstranger
Member
Shame? This woman is evil. From the text I believe she was trying to get ready of him for some reason and the only way she found was to make him commit suicide.
She shouldn't be charged with murder. This should be a new kind of very serious crime called manipulation when you fucking with someone's mind's and vulnerabilities.
Also this is what the story reminds me of:
Manslaughter is probably the right charge but how little jail time people can get for it is extremely stupid.
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
Ofcourse she is orange, orange people are the worst.
Fuck her.
Fuck her.
poor dude. This bitch shouldn't get out of jail ever.
tearsintherain
Member
Its fucked up what she did but I'm not really sure I'm comfortable with calling it manslaughter. These kind of crimes would seem to fall better into some sort of cyber bullying domain.
This is an example of someone who is pure evil. Roy was clearly troubled but everything he typed out clearly indicates he was looking for support to get through what he was facing in his life. Instead all he got was get was someone who was actively pushing him to kill himself.
I cannot even begin to understand how someone could be that demented. I mean indifference to the plight of strangers can happen but to be that vile to someone you know directly. When you hear about how she made a big deal out if it with events etc afterwards I half want to say she pushed him to do it for her own selfish desires. His death got to get her lots of limelight until her role in it came out
I cannot even begin to understand how someone could be that demented. I mean indifference to the plight of strangers can happen but to be that vile to someone you know directly. When you hear about how she made a big deal out if it with events etc afterwards I half want to say she pushed him to do it for her own selfish desires. His death got to get her lots of limelight until her role in it came out
Fantastical
Death Prophet
What the fuck? That's fucking awwffulll.
Dai Kaiju
Member
You don't. You convince the client to plead insanity and collect payment for representing them even though you're aware the judge won't have any sympathy. I feel so bad for that kid. I was a victim of something similar. I wasn't made to attempt suicide but I drank so much I did permanent damage to my pancreas...which can be fatal so it's effectively the same thing.
You know someone is a psychopath when they send you a picture on snapchat of a glass of wine filled to the brim knowing full well you're a recovering alcoholic who just got out of the hospital for alcohol withdrawal and pancreatitis.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Right? How such paradoxical statements could have been uttered consecutively is well beyond my comprehension.
Woman needs to be put away.
Dai Kaiju
Member
ITT: OP is stealthily trying to figure out how much trouble they'll get in if they do something similar.
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