Tesla Cybercab moves closer to completion; Tesla receives patent for radically faster Unboxed 2.0 assembly process

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The Cybercab is Tesla's two seater, no steering wheel autonomous car. It's being designed for cheap mass production, and it's clear with their Robotaxi initiatives in SF and Austin that they plan on it being ready for real world deployment sooner rather than later.

Waymos are already ubiquitous in some US cities, and they've proven to reduce traffic fatalities and serious crashes massively compared with human drivers.

The future is coming.
 
DId they add Lidar to this?
Elon's still pursuing a pure camera-based sensor package for autonomous driving, including the Cybercab, since it's cheaper and retroactively improves the existing Tesla fleet.

Waymo's currently ahead of the game, so there's a strong argument for LiDAR and sensor fusion. But we'll see.
 
The engineering of the automated fabrication and assembly process is what's most impressive to me, just incredible work there. Would it be possible to assemble at this level of efficiency for combustion engine based vehicles? For the sake of simply dropping the ridiculous prices on modern cars, could be very interesting to explore.
 
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Still safety drivers for SF and Austin Robotaxis, but progressing quickly.

It will be good to have competition for Waymo.
 
Is this something to do with the robo taxi thing that crashed three times in 7,000 miles of testing? (Plus another crash that didn't count because it was in a parking lot.)
 
The engineering of the automated fabrication and assembly process is what's most impressive to me, just incredible work there. Would it be possible to assemble at this level of efficiency for combustion engine based vehicles? For the sake of simply dropping the ridiculous prices on modern cars, could be very interesting to explore.
I don't see why ICE vehicles couldn't utilize some aspects of the new assembly process (except for it being patented), but ICE is more complex to manufacture in general since there are more moving parts to deal with.

Electric cars are basically a battery pack sled, so it's possible to radically optimize as we see here.
 
What's Cybercrab? A self-driving taxi? Where's the market for it? I mean, in what locations are they planning to operate?
I'd buy one in a heart beat. I only use the car to go shopping and occasionally down the Pub and it pisses me off walking back the next day to get it with a hangover.

Plus I can pimp it out when I'm not using it rather than my regular car just sat on the driveway losing money. Hope it comes to the UK sooner rather than later.
 
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I'd buy one in a heart beat. I only use the car to go shopping and occasionally down the Pub and it pisses me off walking back the next day to get it with a hangover.

Plus I can pimp it out when I'm not using it rather than my regular car just sat on the driveway losing money. Hope it comes to the UK sooner rather than later.
Are you 'allowed' to be drunk in self driving car? Or is there a distinction between a steering wheel equipped car with auto-drive and these autonomous taxi things?

Having a cheap auto-taxi for date night...nice. And can you use it to pick up kids from soccer practice or have it go get whataburger for them (and avoid the ubereats tax)?

Really, the possibilities of a small autonomous vehicle in an urban area is YUGE.....if people don't start fucking wih them.
 
Are you 'allowed' to be drunk in self driving car? Or is there a distinction between a steering wheel equipped car with auto-drive and these autonomous taxi things?

Having a cheap auto-taxi for date night...nice. And can you use it to pick up kids from soccer practice or have it go get whataburger for them (and avoid the ubereats tax)?

Really, the possibilities of a small autonomous vehicle in an urban area is YUGE.....if people don't start fucking wih them.
If you are I hope they were smart enough to make the inside completely water repellent so at the end of the day they can hose down the insides to remove the all the filth. (They can automate that too right? To get rid of the puke and urine.)
 
What's Cybercrab? A self-driving taxi? Where's the market for it? I mean, in what locations are they planning to operate?

Pretty much. Most of it is hype, there are some serious engineering challenges for these things to work 100%. Some experts agree that ou need to change the entire road infrastructure to accommodate these cars without them fumbling, because they can't perceive reality the way living things can, same thing with LLMs and robots. I doubt we will see mass adoption of self driving cars for a long while still.
 
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Are you 'allowed' to be drunk in self driving car? Or is there a distinction between a steering wheel equipped car with auto-drive and these autonomous taxi things?

Having a cheap auto-taxi for date night...nice. And can you use it to pick up kids from soccer practice or have it go get whataburger for them (and avoid the ubereats tax)?

Really, the possibilities of a small autonomous vehicle in an urban area is YUGE.....if people don't start fucking wih them.
No peddles or steering wheel, you absolutely can.

If its a regular car with a self driving mode probably not.

You can just set it to be in the pool of taxis when not in use like an uber so it will earn its keep.

Hurry the fuck up future.
 
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Are you 'allowed' to be drunk in self driving car? Or is there a distinction between a steering wheel equipped car with auto-drive and these autonomous taxi things?

Having a cheap auto-taxi for date night...nice. And can you use it to pick up kids from soccer practice or have it go get whataburger for them (and avoid the ubereats tax)?

Really, the possibilities of a small autonomous vehicle in an urban area is YUGE.....if people don't start fucking wih them.
In current self driving Teslas you must still stay alert while the Tesla takes you places, if not you get strikes against you that disables full self driving.

The Tesla full self driving is really a cool feature as my sons Tesla drives him all over and its amazing to watch it navigate even through round abouts
 
Pretty much. Most of it is hype, there are some serious engineering challenges for these things to work 100%. Some experts agree that ou need to change the entire road infrastructure to accommodate these cars without them fumbling, because they can't perceive reality the way living things can, same thing with LLMs and robots. I doubt we will see mass adoption of self driving cars for a long while still.
Self-driving cars are here already in the States, several major cities including Los Angeles and San Francisco have full adoption.

 
Self-driving cars are here already in the States, several major cities including Los Angeles and San Francisco have full adoption.


I welcome self driving cars because most people are terrible at driving and would rather do anything else besides driving. (It still amazes me the number of people that can't take a turn correctly.)
 
Self-driving cars are here already in the States, several major cities including Los Angeles and San Francisco have full adoption.


They are pretty amazing, have been in 2 now and its super cool having them just show up though my last one dropped me off about 2 blocks from my destination for some reason
 
I don't see why ICE vehicles couldn't utilize some aspects of the new assembly process (except for it being patented), but ICE is more complex to manufacture in general since there are more moving parts to deal with.

Electric cars are basically a battery pack sled, so it's possible to radically optimize as we see here.
Yeah that makes sense. I had a friend back in my Seattle days that said as much, said electric cars are much simpler machines despite being much more expensive, due to the battery being the centralized singular component.

Fun fact, about two years ago and some change I saw an electric car battery fire in southern Maine when we were traveling for my daughter's band stuff. There was a collision and the whole road was shut down as the fire was incredibly high, hot, and roaring out of that car. Not saying anything about electric cars, (combustion engines go up like a MF too obviously), but it was quite a site I'll say. Thank goodness there was a really nice coffee shop near where we could just sit and wait for the fire department to clear everything.

I have no point to bringing that up other than talking about electric vehicles reminded me of it :D
 
Yeah that makes sense. I had a friend back in my Seattle days that said as much, said electric cars are much simpler machines despite being much more expensive, due to the battery being the centralized singular component.

Fun fact, about two years ago and some change I saw an electric car battery fire in southern Maine when we were traveling for my daughter's band stuff. There was a collision and the whole road was shut down as the fire was incredibly high, hot, and roaring out of that car. Not saying anything about electric cars, (combustion engines go up like a MF too obviously), but it was quite a site I'll say. Thank goodness there was a really nice coffee shop near where we could just sit and wait for the fire department to clear everything.

I have no point to bringing that up other than talking about electric vehicles reminded me of it :D
Yeah, overall the risk of fire is less with EVs, and the battery packs can be isolated and fire shielded very well, but it's still high density energy.
 
Yeah, overall the risk of fire is less with EVs, and the battery packs can be isolated and fire shielded very well, but it's still high density energy.
Thats what I understand as well; fire risk is definitely lower, but a collision is a collision, and it's a high power battery, so it's gonna happen. At the end of the day, people just need to learn to drive safely and defensively, regardless of what kind of engine they're in.

Another fun fact: My wife goes to UMaine near me in Orono, ME, and there have been two different hit and runs on campus where a car has struck a pedestrian, one of them being my wife's food science teacher which broke her leg, (tragic as she's very sweet and in her late 60's), and one being a student, and both incidents in the exact same spot where there's a stop sign that people love to run, and still the university refuses to put up surveillance. I also got tagged by a hit and run driver in WA, and my wife got tagged by one here in the Subaru. Folks just can't drive anymore :/.
 
Thats what I understand as well; fire risk is definitely lower, but a collision is a collision, and it's a high power battery, so it's gonna happen. At the end of the day, people just need to learn to drive safely and defensively, regardless of what kind of engine they're in.

Another fun fact: My wife goes to UMaine near me in Orono, ME, and there have been two different hit and runs on campus where a car has struck a pedestrian, one of them being my wife's food science teacher which broke her leg, (tragic as she's very sweet and in her late 60's), and one being a student, and both incidents in the exact same spot where there's a stop sign that people love to run, and still the university refuses to put up surveillance. I also got tagged by a hit and run driver in WA, and my wife got tagged by one here in the Subaru. Folks just can't drive anymore :/.
Autonomous driving handles that completely, at least. Waymos drive defensively and obey all the traffic laws. Massive reduction in serious crashes and colliding with pedestrians and cyclists.

Waymo stats:

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Thats what I understand as well; fire risk is definitely lower, but a collision is a collision, and it's a high power battery, so it's gonna happen. At the end of the day, people just need to learn to drive safely and defensively, regardless of what kind of engine they're in.

Another fun fact: My wife goes to UMaine near me in Orono, ME, and there have been two different hit and runs on campus where a car has struck a pedestrian, one of them being my wife's food science teacher which broke her leg, (tragic as she's very sweet and in her late 60's), and one being a student, and both incidents in the exact same spot where there's a stop sign that people love to run, and still the university refuses to put up surveillance. I also got tagged by a hit and run driver in WA, and my wife got tagged by one here in the Subaru. Folks just can't drive anymore :/.
Something people don't think about in EVs is the danger of going under guard rails in an accident since guardrails were designed to catch most of the weight of a car from their engine compartment and EVs, especially cars are super heavy much lower to the ground with that battery
 
Yeah that makes sense. I had a friend back in my Seattle days that said as much, said electric cars are much simpler machines despite being much more expensive, due to the battery being the centralized singular component.

Fun fact, about two years ago and some change I saw an electric car battery fire in southern Maine when we were traveling for my daughter's band stuff. There was a collision and the whole road was shut down as the fire was incredibly high, hot, and roaring out of that car. Not saying anything about electric cars, (combustion engines go up like a MF too obviously), but it was quite a site I'll say. Thank goodness there was a really nice coffee shop near where we could just sit and wait for the fire department to clear everything.

I have no point to bringing that up other than talking about electric vehicles reminded me of it :D


A German family recently burned to death in their Tesla because they couldn't get the doors open, kindof feels like they should be fixing that first.
 
Autonomous driving handles that completely, at least. Waymos drive defensively and obey all the traffic laws. Massive reduction in serious crashes and colliding with pedestrians and cyclists.

Waymo stats:

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Honestly? Fuck yeah. I know people are paranoid about them, and I understand that to a degree as it's scary to turn over control to a machine when you're used to driving, but dammit humans are just fucking awful. That's why I'm so pro AI and automation in general; I feel that humans are proving more every day that much of the population can't be trusted to do the right thing, so I'm fine with just relying on machines that have consistently quality programs and routines, as they're simply more trustworthy than people. I honestly can't wait to see these in Maine, though I feel it will be a while for obvious reasons there, what with our tiny population and all :/.
 
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