AstroNut325
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I'll put a deposit when there is a firm release/availability date.
Highly interested regardless.
Highly interested regardless.
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Tesla Model 3 will be revealed on March 31st
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There's a rumor that Tesla is going for less than a .20 drag coefficient for the 3. That would rule out a hatchback. A similar style to the Model S liftback would be more likely.
Musk also said on their conference call for earnings earlier today that they weren't sure if they would reveal everything about the 3 on March 31st. Maybe hoping to keep some features a secret until the launch, like the X?
Musk also said on their conference call for earnings earlier today that they weren't sure if they would reveal everything about the 3 on March 31st. Maybe hoping to keep some features a secret until the launch, like the X?
Wouldn't that make it the lowest drag coefficient for an affordable car? The last car to have that title was the CLA I believe with a 0.22, so that would be crazy
I probably would stay away from the 1st few years of it. The model S had some drivetrain issues with the first few stating it would last until 60K miles or so according to Jalopnik. This being a much cheaper car could mean more of that or so.
Here is the article btw
http://jalopnik.com/report-two-thirds-of-early-tesla-model-s-drivetrains-m-1747222846
Used Model 3's will certainly help. There are used Model S for around 50k regularly, now.
Yeah, it would be the lowest by far for a mass production car. Model S and X are both 0.24.
Drive unit failures seem to be decreasing. Luckily Tesla will get much needed practice in all areas of manufacturing before the 3.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/51595-Drive-unit-replacement-getting-better
dont they fix the drivetrain for free under warranty?
Yes, for the first 50k miles.
RustyNails
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Highly interested. Of course, the number of charge-stations across Europe have to increase. As it stands right now, going on vacation with an EV is not an option; a 800 mile / 11 hour trip from Amsterdam to the south of France requires a 5 hour detour in order to hit chargers. And once your at your destination, there's no charger for your car.
TimFL
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I would love to buy a Tesla but it just wont work for me. There's one supercharger ~20 miles away and I live in the center of the city in a penthouse with no way to install a charging station.
Kind of depressing as I'm probably going to buy a new car in the next few months.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I'm so excited for this! Definitely preordering this ASAP.
Maedre
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mhh i live with 1700 after Tax. how is that even possible!
POWERSPHERE
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how well do the batteries age though?
Nothing from the X that is expensive to make will be in the S. Large curved glass windshield? Nope. Stupidly oversized iPad glued to the dash? Thank god no.
Electric vehicles are expensive. This is a mass market version. Expectations need to be tempered. I'm particularly interested in what range it has and what power it produces. It could (and should) still be the best electric vehicle choice for many people, but people need to be realistic.
That's just a shortened version! Here's the full gif
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RastaMentality
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Yeah, it was definitely a smart marketing technique. It allows a heightened brand that isn't really cheapened by ugly cars and since enough people have the Model S in a lot of major cities, people get to ooooo and aweeee at it until the mass market release. They basically have an Apple-like brand already and they haven't even aired their first ad. 2018-20 should be huge for them.
jellies_two
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It is actually hard to tell because the drive failures seem to be happening after about 30,000 kms and some people are onto their 3rd unit or more. So of course the number of failures plotted against Quarter of delivery is going to show a dramatic decrease because newer cars = less kilometres.
Prototype Viktor
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from what i've heard from tech/car reporters
don't expect
200+ miles range
auto-pilot
all the sensors
expect
150-170 mile range
don't expect
200+ miles range
auto-pilot
all the sensors
expect
150-170 mile range
We will be able to afford one in time.
plagiarize
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I drive a 2016 smart fortwo ev. It's black with a red stripe. I love it. The smart isn't for everyone, no question, but I'd wanted one for ages. My commute to work is about 7 miles. Most everything you could need is within 11 miles. It's only got a short range, but it covers almost everything I ever need do, and the charging infrastructure around here is okay. Plus we have the Volt for long drives.
It's got two years left on its lease, and I expect to have a lot of options when that lease expires, but my gut feeling right now is that I'll lease another one, and then buy something after that more like a model 3 or a Bolt Ev or similar in about 5 years.
I'll never go back to a gasoline driven vehicle. EVs are clean, efficient, quiet and they have an incredibly smooth ride. The only downside they have over combustion engine cars is that they have smaller ranges and longer refueling times. That downside gets a bit smaller month after month.
It's going to be 200+. Even if all the studies weren't suggesting 200+ is the magic number, the Bolt will be 200+ in the same price range *this year* and the Leaf will be there by 2018. Probably some others too. Tesla have always said 200. Battery chemistry and per kilowatt hour costs are reaching the point where it's feasible to make a car around that cost with a 200 mile range this year. Anything under 200 would be dead in the water and Tesla have always maintained that the model 3 will be 200 plus. Sensors plus autopilot certainly won't be standard, but I can't see why they wouldn't be an option.
There was a Hyundai concept years ago with solar panels mounted on the roof, but there were safety issues, costs were pretty high, and the actual benefit was pretty low (IIRC the solar panels offered an extra 10 miles on a 100 mile trip on average), so they were deemed unviable for the moment.
I live less than a mile away from a supercharger (Germany). All those Model S coming through. They look pretty cool.
I am tempted to get a Tesla EV sometime but in Germany the infrastructure is not efficient enough unfortunately. But it will change as soon as the mass market buys those cars.
I am tempted to get a Tesla EV sometime but in Germany the infrastructure is not efficient enough unfortunately. But it will change as soon as the mass market buys those cars.
Maedre
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I know what you mean. I am very often at Connys Diner in Bergkamen and thats the only Supercharger in a 100km radius. The Model is a really good looking car. Its now all about a better infrstructure. Every bigger city (50.000+) needs a minimum of one supercharger station before i would jump on the train.
Orbis Tabula
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It's nice to dream.
Maybe I'll shoot for a used one in five years or something. I'm just in that spot where I'll probably buy a new car this year, so I wish I didn't have to wait. Because I don't think my current car will last until I can get a Tesla.
I've been waiting on this reveal for quite some time. I'm happy to hear about the $1000 deposit as well. I'm hoping that the model 3 will be my next car. I'm keeping my eye on the Hyundai Ioniq as well. The bolt doesn't really grab my attention but I'll still test drive it and see it in person to get a better feel for it. The one thing that bothers me about the other car makers is having a dedicated charging infrastructure. There are a couple of Tesla superchargers near me but other EV makers don't seem to be so concerned with building out a better infrastructure than whats already in place. Guess it will come with having more EV's in the wild.
King Gilga
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I want them to make a motorcycle already.
Hatchbacks are U G L Y, I both hate and understand why they are the most common type of car here.
Hatchbacks are U G L Y, I both hate and understand why they are the most common type of car here.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Anywhere from $1000-$5000 depending on the tech.
Doesn't Harley Davidson have EV bike?
The hardware comes on all model s units and it is 3k to unlock it.
King Gilga
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I dunno probably, there's a couple out there, there's the Zero and Lightning ones too.
But I want to see what Tesla can do with it, their cars are pretty nifty.
I've been awaiting this reveal for a few years now. Very happy to see the reservation is only $1000, I was expecting 3k or more.
It'll be interesting to see how much it costs once it's fully loaded. This will easily be the most expensive car I've purchased to date, considering I anyways go with used cars.
Anyone know if you can get your reservation back? You never know, the car could turn out to be a mess by the time production hits.
It'll be interesting to see how much it costs once it's fully loaded. This will easily be the most expensive car I've purchased to date, considering I anyways go with used cars.
Anyone know if you can get your reservation back? You never know, the car could turn out to be a mess by the time production hits.
adamsappel
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Yes, you get your money back if you cancel your reservation. I don't know if I'll end up buying one (I barely drive anywhere), but I can afford the cost of reserving a spot to see if I want one.
Would rule out a flat hatchback but A7, Citroen, Model S style "fastback" is still a hatchback.
Shadow2222
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I'm very interested. I currently have a BMW i3 and will be looking for a new car around that time. I understand it won't be super luxurious, but I hope that there are higher-end trims available that have the Autopilot functions.
Mr. Giggles
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Awwww yiss.
As long as the CAD doesn't slide anymore...
I got my $1394.69 CAD ready
As long as the CAD doesn't slide anymore...
I got my $1394.69 CAD ready
plagiarize
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I'd be tempted if we weren't hoping to enter into a mortgage soon. My lease is up Feb 2018 and that's probably a realistic time frame to expect delivery on a bare bones model 3... but it's still a gamble I'm not going to take right now when I'm trying to get together a downpayment on a house. I'm still super excited to see it though.
Have you ever looked at one? They are basically just the best of all cars, stylish, functional, sporty and then the blow the doors of most things on the road.
Valkyr Junkie
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Really good cars to drive for numerous reasons (technology, smoothness of EV, quietness, etc), however Consumer Reports has been shitting on Tesla pretty hard for the last year over reliability issues with the Model S. There are a lot of articles to read on the subject.
plagiarize
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Not sure where you're going in the south of France that doesn't have a supercharger or Level 2 charging nearby:
https://www.teslamotors.com/findus#/bounds/65,55,34,-11?search=supercharger&name=europe
That's just the super chargers. There's loads of level 2 chargers presuming that you can't find somewhere to plug in at your hotel or campsite.
I also see 11 superchargers along the route google maps recommends taking from Amsterdam to Marseille.
I'd happily stop 4 or 5 times en route for half an hour and save hundreds of Euros on gasoline.
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