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The 2010 Academy Awards of Something Something
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Chichikov said:
I have to disagree with that. You're talking to a (relatively new)QT fan here
Seriously though, I have re-watched IB a few times now since I bought it. And it still holds up in quality of story and dialogue.
And yes it does have something to do with avatar. If THL wins:
-JC's Ex-wife won
-Movie that made the least on the list won.
These are enough incentives for some people to shift their votes towards THL. The reason THL is getting this great amount of hype surrounding it, does undoubtedly have to do with these two factors.
If none of that was relevant and was proven not to be, then we'd probably see IB up there as a serious contender against Avatar.
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It's like the real best picture battle is already happening here:
IB vs THL.
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Dances With Wolves might have been manipulative, but it is so much better conceptualized than Avatar, even with Kevin Costner. Avatar treats killing from the Navi as if it is just. But Dances With Wolves at least in a few scenes portrays violence from the Native Americans just as reprehensible. Although the audience is obviously supposed to be rooting for Costner's rampage at the end, at least it doesn't end in a typical action set piece devoid of much meaning.DennisK4 said:
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Chichikov said:
I like you a lot, Chich, but this post is very full of wrong.
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Jibril said:I have to disagree with that. You're talking to a (relatively new)QT fan here
Seriously though, I have re-watched IB a few times now since I bought it. And it still holds up in quality of story and dialogue.
And yes it does have something to do with avatar. If THL wins:
-JC's Ex-wife won
-Movie that made the least on the list won.
These are enough incentives for some people to shift their votes towards THL. The reason THL is getting this great amount of hype surrounding it, does undoubtedly have to do with these two factors.
If none of that was relevant and was proven not to be, then we'd probably see IB up there as a serious contender against Avatar.
Except THL is generally regarded by critics as the better film? Why not just add the fact that Bigelow is a woman therefore she gets sympathy votes, to the list too? Guess what? Even if IB was a better film than THL, it would still lose to Avatar. And again, THL was the front-runner before either Avatar or IB came out. THL has gotten buzz since TIFF 08, this idea that it's getting some kind of Anti-Avatar late push is laughable at best. If anything, because of the THL's Co-Producer's email/brain fart, Avatar is winning back momentum.
FYI, the idea that the Hurt Locker made the least (which it didn't - A Serious Man did) changes the voting zeigeist is as plausible as me saying that Avatar will win because it's the #1 grossing movie of all-time. But right, the Academy has a Cameron-bias hence why they gave him Oscars before..... Sorry your logic. It fails.
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Don't really care much who wins what since last year was awful for movies. Can't get worse then the last Oscars with Slumdog Millionaire tho.
I only would be disappointed if Waltz doesn't win best supporting actor. He really deserves it.
I only would be disappointed if Waltz doesn't win best supporting actor. He really deserves it.
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The only possible explanation.Timber said:
As relatively old QT hater, let's agree to disagree (I'd gladly fight you over this, but I'd rather not poo poo this thread too much).Jibril said:I have to disagree with that. You're talking to a (relatively new)QT fan here
Seriously though, I have re-watched IB a few times now since I bought it. And it still holds up in quality of story and dialogue.
And yes it does have something to do with avatar. If THL wins:
-JC's Ex-wife won
-Movie that made the least on the list won.
These are enough incentives for some people to shift their votes towards THL. The reason THL is getting this great amount of hype surrounding it, does undoubtedly have to do with these two factors.
If none of that was relevant and was proven not to be, then we'd probably see IB up there as a serious contender against Avatar.
Also, The Hurt Locker was considered an Oscar threat way before Avatar was even released.
Sure, it got more buzz as the ceremony approached, but that's how these things works every year.
Just look at Avatar's buzz, it went from being a long shot for nomination to the front runner.
It's just the nature of the game.
Steppenwolf said:
What? Wall-E should have won but Slumdog Millionaire was a fantastic movie. Last year was really great.
2007 however....
Timber said:
I guess you are right. I was always confused at the hate for that movie here.
This is the one I am talking about:
It was directed by Paul Higgins, and won Best Picture in 2005.
I wasn't talking about this one:
I haven't seen it, but that poster looks awful.
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Jibril said:
I totally agree with him. The Hurt Locker was not my favorite film of last year, but it was clearly ONE of the best; this strange backlash that it has gotten recently puzzles and saddens me.
Edit: Ah, I see now, Chich, that you are a general hater of QT. Fair enough, then; as QT is the most Tarantino of all of the Tarantino movies, it would make perfect sense that you would dislike it. I personally think that Tarantino is one of the most wonderful writer-directors working today in terms of creating satisfying filmic experiences with interesting characters, but I'm not willing to battle with somebody who does not like the man's work.
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Willy105 said:
2007 was, like, the best year of the whole damn decade.
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I want Avatar to win, but THL is most def. going to take it.
The Hurt Locker - shallow, at times farcical, and poorly shot. And that's coming from someone who digs Strange Days and Point Break.
Avatar - technical marvel, underwhelming screenplay. Full impressions here (and by full I mean make sure you don't need to pee before you click).
Up - great first 15 minutes, beyond that a formulaic, if entertaining, kid flick.
District 9 - starts out in a dry docu format and finishes as a balls-out actioner. Somewhere in the middle it's at its best, but the early bits set things up well and the action payoff is indeed pretty badass. Interesting choice of main characters, too.
Inglourious Basterds - possibly Tarantino's best, and at the very least his most mature and carefully crafted film. Perfect crescendos of tension as each act plays out.
Working on the rest, haven't been watching enough flicks recently.
Hopefully someone can find a suitable "HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS POST" enormous flashing animated gif as a response to this, since I don't have one on-hand.
Avatar - technical marvel, underwhelming screenplay. Full impressions here (and by full I mean make sure you don't need to pee before you click).
Up - great first 15 minutes, beyond that a formulaic, if entertaining, kid flick.
District 9 - starts out in a dry docu format and finishes as a balls-out actioner. Somewhere in the middle it's at its best, but the early bits set things up well and the action payoff is indeed pretty badass. Interesting choice of main characters, too.
Inglourious Basterds - possibly Tarantino's best, and at the very least his most mature and carefully crafted film. Perfect crescendos of tension as each act plays out.
Working on the rest, haven't been watching enough flicks recently.
Hopefully someone can find a suitable "HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS POST" enormous flashing animated gif as a response to this, since I don't have one on-hand.
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What part of it?Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Despite my sometime combative stance in such debate, in real life I'm well aware and accepting of the fact that many people don't share my taste in movies, and in the case of Avatar, many many many many many people.
However, if you think we had a good year in movies, you'll have to back it up a bit.
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My problem with Avatar is that I felt like it didn't earn its big moments. However, I wouldn't mind seeing it win an award for technical achievement.Dabanton said:
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Yeah, 2007 was filled with so many freaking incredible movies, it blows my mind. Best year of the decade by far.Willy105 said:What? Wall-E should have won but Slumdog Millionaire was a fantastic movie. Last year was really great.
2007 however....
I guess you are right. I was always confused at the hate for that movie here.
This is the one I am talking about:
It was directed by Paul Higgins, and won Best Picture in 2005.
I wasn't talking about this one:
I haven't seen it, but that poster looks awful.
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Willy105 said:
It was utter trash imo.
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Willy105 said:
I usually stand up for Juno/Cody but ... just no.
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GhaleonEB said:I'm expecting Hurt Locker to take both Picture and Director, but I'd like to see them split with Avatar taking the former. Don't think that's likely though.
And speaking of unlikely, Coraline should win Best Animated Film, but won't. Dammit.
I could slightly understand Cameron winning Director, because of the scale of the production. That said, the movie itself does quite reflect the award.
Agreed. It's sad how it's almost a mandate that Pixar will win.GhaleonEB said:I'm expecting Hurt Locker to take both Picture and Director, but I'd like to see them split with Avatar taking the former. Don't think that's likely though.
And speaking of unlikely, Coraline should win Best Animated Film, but won't. Dammit.
GhaleonEB said:I'm expecting Hurt Locker to take both Picture and Director, but I'd like to see them split with Avatar taking the former. Don't think that's likely though.
And speaking of unlikely, Coraline should win Best Animated Film, but won't. Dammit.
It would be odd if they didn't give the award to Up, but then again, it's also up for Best Picture, so if they plan for Up to win it, they could give Best Animated Film to another movie.
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Willy105 said:
Similar theme and tone as City of God (which i consider a masterpiece) but really crappy in comparison.
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Chichikov said:
Well, I guess I just can't see a world where The Hurt Locker is better-written than Inglourious Basterds. However, having subsequently seen you state that you are a long-time QT hater, I guess I am forced to relent a bit because I think we probably just could not come to an agreement on that subject.
Also, I think that it was a pretty damn fine year overall. If you want me to back it up, I point first to Ebert's top 20 of the year list; I've only seen about half of the movies on it, but I thought that they were all good to great films.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/12/the_best_films_of_2009.html
I will admit that it was, perhaps, a weak year in terms of the mainstream cinema, but I think that there were a lot of small- and mid-sized films that were just wonderful (such as Goodbye Solo, for example).
Pretty much identical.EviLore said:
I think IB deserves a clean sweep of the lot from what I saw. The only great movie. District 9 being the only other standing on it's own feet(Though it is quite flawed, I still loved it). The rest of the lot was allot of meh. It's sad to see it between Avatar and Hurt Locker. But these are the Oscars post Crash, so even it doesn't look all that bad even though it is shit.
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