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[Psychotext]

I see they've got some aero channels at the sidepods too.

 

[Hackbert]

first second i thought it would be dark grey.. eh. nothing new, nothing really bad.

 

[jey_16]

Looks like last years car....at least they didn't copy the RBR exhaust

 

[bbyybb]

Yeah at first glance it does look very similar to last years car.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

More of an evolution, than a revolution it seems.

 

[Lucius86]

Well, it was almost the fastest car at the end of last season....

 

[DD]

Big let down, but they're yet my favorite team. <3

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Big let down, but they're yet my favorite team. <3

It's only a car launch though, much of the 2013 spec is still to be bolted on to the chassis, so it'll look quite different come Melbourne.

 

[brotkasten]

Any pictures? I'm at work, so I can't watch the stream.

 

[DD]

It's only a car launch though, much of the 2013 spec is still to be bolted on to the chassis, so it'll look quite different come Melbourne.

Yeah, I know, but I'm tired of that silver + red scheme. =/

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Any pictures? I'm at work, so I can't watch the stream.

 

[cmr-94]

Yeah, I know, but I'm tired of that silver + red scheme. =/

yeah livery looks even more dull this year for some reason

 

[DD]

yeah livery looks even more dull this year for some reason

Yeah, not a single different detail...

I'm tired of this shit.

Ferrari, which is simply a freakin' red car, add some white details or use a different red tone every year.

 

[Psychotext]

So does anyone know a good place (area) to stay for the German GP? I can't find any local hotels and I really don't want to spend hours every day travelling back and forth to the circuit.

 

[Shaneus]

Can't see shit because I'm capped... but no white?

Is it chrome or silver this year? And are we getting Vodafone red or orange?

 

[Zeppu]

All your complaints is exactly why RBR is by far the best using whichever metric you choose.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Can't see shit because I'm capped... but no white?

Is it chrome or silver this year? And are we getting Vodafone red or orange?

Pretty much the same livery that we're so used to, with a few subtle differences.

 

[cmr-94]

Can't see shit because I'm capped... but no white?

Is it chrome or silver this year? And are we getting Vodafone red or orange?

ok, so think of the MP4-27.........yeah, it's that

 

[Mastah]

 

[cmr-94]

that'll be easy to identify

 

[brotkasten]

yeah livery looks even more dull this year for some reason

Must be the driver line up this year.

 

[nny]

That's...noisy.

 

[Mastah]

 

[Ark]

Gotta say, I really like Checo's new helmet design.

Car reveals are such a tease, they'll all look so different at Melbourne in about six weeks.

 

[NihonTiger90]

There's a story on autosport (on my phone, so just imagine there's a link here) about an American/Canadian effort to buyout HRT's entry - cars and resources to boot.

The article claims that they have Bernie's blessing, but expect that the FIA wouldn't grant them an entry before 2014.

If true, this is pretty great news. I really hope they don't try and rush themselves onto the 2013 grid though as surely it's too late to get into a worthwhile state, especially if you're starting with HRT's car as a base.

Here's what I'm wondering: who the heck are the investors?

 

[Ark]

Here's what I'm wondering: who the heck are the investors?

Some Capital Investment firm from what I understand. Could be wrong though.

 

[navanman]

Scarbs F1 says the McLaren chassis is all new. That nose is stepped but with the vanity panel installed so it looks like last years front nose.

 

[kharma45]

This is the nose sans panel.

 

[Psychotext]

Cool. You really can't tell on the actual car.

 

[Mastah]

According to Brazilian media, Luiz Razia will take second seat at Marussia:

http://globoesporte.globo.com/motor...-e-fara-sua-estreia-na-formula-1-em-2013.html
http://www.totalrace.com.br/site/no...a-confirmado-como-titular-da-marussia-em-2013

They are almost always spot on with news about Brazilian drivers, so it's a deal done.

Well, for me Marussia can as well don't bother with racing in 2013. 2 average GP2 drivers means 2 poor F1 drivers and I really don't want to watch them trundling around and wasting fuel and car's potential.

 

[Leunam]

Pretty much the same livery that we're so used to, with a few subtle differences.

Indeed. Vanity panel is a nice solution as well, it seems.

Welcome back. Hope you'll be able to join us at the start of the season.

 

[cmr-94]

According to TotalRace, marussia have signed Luiz Razia.

Razia and Chilton...looks weak

http://www.totalrace.com.br/site/noticia/2013/01/luiz-razia-esta-confirmado-como-titular-da-marussia-em-2013

 

[navanman]

Comparison pic, you can see the nose and undercut is much higher this year.

 

[Psychotext]

Interesting, does seem a fair chunk higher.

 

[brotkasten]

Still weird to change the car that much. They had the fastest car last season and they can't reuse the design philosophy for the next season.

 

[DrM]

Still weird to change the car that much. They had the fastest car last season and they can't reuse the design philosophy for the next season.

Well, they decided to do this and they probably know why they changed suspension system so much - probably due to quite obvious high tire wear

 

[cmr-94]

I think it's because the higher chassis gives room for more potential, whilst last years may have peaked halfway through the season

However, agreed it does seem odd, especially due to the overhaul next season

 

[Deadman]

The rear wing is quite different to last year. The lotus rear wing is similar to the 2013 mclaren at the top and the 2012 mclaren at the bottom.

Credit: dinkydarko on reddit.

 

[Adamm]

Could be the angle but the sidepods look huge this year compared to last

 

[navanman]

Excellent video analysis of the MP28 from Peter Windsor & Craig Scarbs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9o9d4oBz8

 

[Ark]

You guys are comparing this years McLaren nose to the nose they used for the first few races, before they adopted the higher nose.

 

[anx10us]

So does anyone know a good place (area) to stay for the German GP? I can't find any local hotels and I really don't want to spend hours every day travelling back and forth to the circuit.

Try Adenau, specifically "Hotel Am Nordchliefe" but you will need to be very quick, its right next to the Nordschliefe and about 15 minutes from the GP track, the village is in the middle basically. The Hotel is more and Bed and Breakfast, tidy, clean, friendly and cheap.

You need to move very quickly, as the rooms will soon go (if not already)

 

[Psychotext]

Everywhere I've checked within 25 miles is already long gone. People must have been booking the rooms before the race was even confirmed.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Very surprised to see the access that McLaren have given to the new car (referring specifically to that Peter Windsor video posted earlier). Of course the 'reveal' spec rarely turns out to match what the bigger teams bring to the first race, but I have a suspicion that McLaren will be making some unusually big changes.

Either that or it really is the case that all the special shit this year isn't outside the car.

 

[DrM]

Front wing or even nose will be different in Jerez, exhausts and RW also... they seem very confident about their car

Di Resta stays in Force India

 

[Diablo Rosso]

As much as I like the chrome on the McLaren I think it's time for a change. Hopefully they'll go to white when they get Honda as their engine supplier.

 

[Yen]

Disappointed with the two liverys so far

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Interesting MP4 design. There must be a reason why they changed it this much.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Interesting MP4 design. There must be a reason why they changed it this much.

They want to win the Championship(s)?

 

[DrM]

Official reason for radical front and back suspension change is fear, that they would hit development wall of old design before the end of first half of this season.

Tim Goss for Autosport:

We looked at our performance during last season, in the stages where we were laying down the foundations of this car, and looked at where we thought we would get to in terms of our development rate if we just kept continuing with developing the same car," he said. "We realised we actually needed to make a larger step.

"So in defining the architecture of this car, the philosophy was very much to give ourselves the scope to further exploit the area of the cars that we knew would generate performance.

"We understand how to get the most out of these rules, and we demonstrated that last season under these rules with the quickest car at the beginning of the year and the end of the year.

"But, we decided that we need to give ourselves a bit more freedom and, as a result of that, we have reworked the car from front to back. That has allowed us that bit more freedom to push the areas of the car that we know respond."