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The 77th Annual Academy Awards
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Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
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She wins the "best looking" award for me tonight, and I never saw her before.Meier said:
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What a moron. Although I don't like A Beautiful Mind that much, I think M$B shits all over The Aviator, and I'm the biggest Scorsese fanboy there is. The Aviator is a very good flick, I loved it, but M$B is one of the best flicks of the decade so far, if not the best, in my opinion. And well, I haven't seen a movie that tackles the same issues this one does in the same way. It's like Harry watched the first hour and left, missing the whole ending.FoneBone said:
The worst thing about it is that Aintitcool is filled with M$B haters, most of which having probably not even seen the film.
effzee said:
She was nominated for one of my personal top 3 picks of this year, Maria Full of Grace. Her name is Catalina Sandino Moreno, and she showed great promise in that movie. Besides just being sizzling hot.
sefskillz said:
Congratulations to you as well. You did excellent, as did Liono and RedDwarf.
Question for those who've seen both Girlfight AND MDB: How similar are they?
I really liked Girlfight and MDB seemed like the same film to me, which is why I never got around to see it. I still really want to see Hotel Rwanda. I really liked Sideways and Maria Full of Grace.
Maybe an hour into the Oscars, when they went to commercial the balconies only seemed to be half full. I wonder if that was people just arriving late or what.
There were some good moments, and I'm glad certain things won (Eternal Sunshine, Ray, Incredibles), but I think I enjoyed IFC's broadcast of the Independent Spirit Awards yesterday more. Everyone who deserved an award received one. From the Motorcycle Diaries to Maria to Sideways (I think the only thing that didn't get an award was BADASSSSSS! which I also still need to see). Good stuff.
I really liked Girlfight and MDB seemed like the same film to me, which is why I never got around to see it. I still really want to see Hotel Rwanda. I really liked Sideways and Maria Full of Grace.
Maybe an hour into the Oscars, when they went to commercial the balconies only seemed to be half full. I wonder if that was people just arriving late or what.
There were some good moments, and I'm glad certain things won (Eternal Sunshine, Ray, Incredibles), but I think I enjoyed IFC's broadcast of the Independent Spirit Awards yesterday more. Everyone who deserved an award received one. From the Motorcycle Diaries to Maria to Sideways (I think the only thing that didn't get an award was BADASSSSSS! which I also still need to see). Good stuff.
Priz said:
Ok, honestly... they are almost NOTHING alike. I know that may be hard to believe, but just to ensure you a little less than half the film is actually about the boxing aspect and about a much more serious subject matter. I don't want to spoil it for you because telling you would ruin what happens, but let's just say MDB is better in every single way and is also not extremely similar besides being about two female boxers.
Also, Hotel Rwanda owns
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You keep raging against the machine.Macam said:
FoneBone said:
explain.
At first glance I think the analogy is quite good.
Although I must admit I wasn't quite enthralled with Million Dollar Baby. (that said, I hated the Beautiful Mind after the first viewing and only later came to appreciate the story and especially the acting) Can a film be too simple and subdued? Apparently so. It's a 3 act play - limited sets, few characters, easy to follow story. Only in this play there's a huge twist in the third act that makes it a completely different play with very few strings attaching part 1 to 2. I was kind of disappointed with Haggis here (although I don't know the source material at all)
Well acted, well produced film. But the finale/second half of the movie, like in A Beautiful Mind, makes the rest of the film seem rather shallow and pointless in the end.. heck in this case it even seems like a non-sequitor. A fighter for so much of her life and then.. well, you know..
don't you kinda want her to keep fighting?
Terrific performances, particularly by Swank but the movie .. I don't think.. will hold up over time.
In comparison, I think Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Sideways have more staying power as movies. Original, poignant, quirky and a great variety of people can associate with the characters.
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VPhys said:
Requim for a Dream? Marlon is actually a pretty good actor. I think he was formally trained and everything. Its Shawn thats the worthless one. ONce you put Marlon together with Shawn, he becomes some kind of brainless, unfunny zombie.
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Iceman said:
I beg to differ, with reasons expressed multiple times in other threads. Movies like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Sideways are much "colder" movies, and will be forgotten in ten years, especially Sideways. ESotSM will be reminded as another of Kauffman's narratic structure experimentations, which, even though I LOVED the movie, are getting a little gimmicky.
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Iceman said:
Of all the movies nominated for Best Picture, I think Ray was the most enjoyable of the bunch (despite the ending). Aviator dragged too much in the third act. MDB was too depressing and could've been cut a bit shorter. Finding Neverland was pretty good. And I honestly didn't think Sideways was in the same league as the others.
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OK no one has a pic of the hot chick with Usher?
Or even a name...
Or even a name...
Baron Aloha
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I just wanted to chime in and say that I thought both Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese were robbed. I thought The Aviator was an amazing film and DiCaprio turned in his best performance since The Basketball Diaries. Say what you want about DiCaprio but the man can act. Unfortunately they could not overcome the Ray/Million Dollar Baby hype trains. I actually think that DiCaprio and Don Cheadle both turned in better performances than Foxx. I felt that Foxx's portrail of Ray was a little too over the top at times and that the film itself was too cliched. And once again, Clint Eastwood walks away with an Oscar that he didn't deserve (if Mystic River is the most overrated movie in the past decade then MDB is the second most overrated).
I didn't bother to watch the Oscars last night (except for Chris Rock's not-funny opening monologue), but I'm relatively happy with how things turned out, given the choices.
Given the choice between MDB and The Aviator sweeping, I'd rather see MDB sweep, because it's a small, actor-driven film for which the director had complete creative control (the sort of film that Martin Scorsese used to make, but hasn't made in a long time). So in a way, you can say that the Academy voted for the kind of film that Scorsese does well--they just didn't vote for Scorsese. (Though if either MDB or The Aviator had been replaced with Hotel Rwanda in the list of Best Picture nominees, I'd've been fine with that.)
Hurrah for Sideways winning Best Adapted Screenplay. Double hurrah for Charlie Kaufman's screenplay for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (which had rich, three-dimensional characterization, despite the postmodern tricks) beating out John Logan's screenplay for The Aviator (which was conventional and linear, but had characters that were made out of cardboard for the most part).
I haven't heard the score for Finding Neverland, but it's hard to believe that John Williams wasn't robbed. (Then again, the Academy failed to nominate the score for Sideways, which is one of the best I heard in the past year--jazz ensembles don't fare well in that category, though.)
Given the choice between MDB and The Aviator sweeping, I'd rather see MDB sweep, because it's a small, actor-driven film for which the director had complete creative control (the sort of film that Martin Scorsese used to make, but hasn't made in a long time). So in a way, you can say that the Academy voted for the kind of film that Scorsese does well--they just didn't vote for Scorsese. (Though if either MDB or The Aviator had been replaced with Hotel Rwanda in the list of Best Picture nominees, I'd've been fine with that.)
Hurrah for Sideways winning Best Adapted Screenplay. Double hurrah for Charlie Kaufman's screenplay for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (which had rich, three-dimensional characterization, despite the postmodern tricks) beating out John Logan's screenplay for The Aviator (which was conventional and linear, but had characters that were made out of cardboard for the most part).
I haven't heard the score for Finding Neverland, but it's hard to believe that John Williams wasn't robbed. (Then again, the Academy failed to nominate the score for Sideways, which is one of the best I heard in the past year--jazz ensembles don't fare well in that category, though.)
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Prospero said:
John Williams has 5 Oscars, and has been nominated 43 times. He's also won two Emmys, 3 Golden Globes, and 18 Grammys. I'm sure he's not TOO upset
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It would be arguable, but it would also be arguable that the structure juggling does everything it could to alienate the viewer and put him in the 'jigsaw puzzle solving' situation, which is DEFINITELY not the best position to be involved dramatically, in my opinion. I loved the movie, but I don't remember crying in it, even though it was sad as hell, and I cry a lot at movies (not in tripe like Patch Adams or violin-riddled flicks, but intelligent tear-jerkers like M$B).Amir0x said:
I think Kauffman will run out of narrative juggling linked ideas soon enough, and maybe we'll see some intelligent classical storytelling from him. You know, classical storytelling has been here for CENTURIES, it's not like nobody tried to jerk it around in the past, it's just the most effective storytelling there is.
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The fact that it's endorsed by the guy whose life is played in it is not a warranty of it being truthful. Ray supposedly had way more drug problems than what was expressed in the movie, and was supposedly sometimes a lot worst human being than how he is portrayed in the movie. Tell me, would you really want someone to portray all your mistakes and bad sides on the silver screen? I think you'd be the worst person to judge.DarienA said:
Yeah, please, A Beautiful Mind had the full support of the Nashes but that film is full of innaccuracies right down to the false claim that they live in Princeton, not to mention the fact that it skips one of his marriages and a whole hell of a lot of other things.
SteveMeister said:John Williams has 5 Oscars, and has been nominated 43 times. He's also won two Emmys, 3 Golden Globes, and 18 Grammys. I'm sure he's not TOO upset
Yeah, I know--he probably slept well last night anyway. I still think that's one of the best and most unconventional scores he's ever done, though.
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One of those other things was the fact that Nash had homosexual tendencies. It would have been interesting to see the movie tackle that part of his life, but A Beautiful Mind was way too stereotypical and well, Ron Howard-ish for it.Dan said:
Foreign Jackass said:
That doesn't really speak to the crux of what I asked the other poster... the complaint that it's cliche... well the shit did happen to Ray so I find it hard to make that particular complaint about the movie...
That's like me bitching about Jo Jo Dancer being too over the top and cliche... except that crazy ass Richard Pyror really did lose it....
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DarienA said:
I'm not sure if cliché would be the appropriate word... Foxx did a good job, but to me, it felt like an impersonation more than an embodiment of of the person. Don Cheadle probably should've gotten the award, but that isn't how the Oscars work.
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Yeah.. Well.. I dunno. Foxx was incredible. The only thing that's really sad is the fact that most movies nominated were bio-pics. I'm sure glad that M$B won. Fiction is the reason why we're doing movies. Biopics are only masquerading as truth, and therefore get some unconditional love from plenty of stupid people who think that because it's posing as being a real life story, it's somehow filled with more truth than fiction, and therefore more deserving in some ways.Hotarubi said:
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