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[SURGEdude]

Yeah, that guy's life Moonlight is based off is such Oscar bait.

I'm not talking about the dude. Good compelling movies that aren't best picture material are made all of the time about tons of great stories.

Like I said, it was better than La La Land.

 

[mdubs]

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

They took the Best Picture card out of Beatty's hand and showed it to the camera. It was Moonlight.

There was no wrong card given.

 

[jombag]

Yes he was. He was all the way on the right, our left from the perspective of the TV.

oh ok thanks

 

[PlatypusDude]

Moonlight didn't click with me personally, definitely preferred La La Land or really most of the other nominees I saw, except Lion didn't like the second half of that one, to it. But hey a lot of people liked it so good for those who were rooting for it.

 

[TheOddOne]

 

[Chumley]

 

[msdstc]

I thought everyone in the movie did a better job than him

Might want to learn a bit more about acting.

 

[Talka]

Just rewinded and Warren looks mad confused when he has the card tbh

He never even called it, right? He just stood there looking (justifiably) confused until his co-presenter called it.

 

[NYR]

the strangest thing is that they resealed an envelope of an already announced winner

They must have printed it twice or something stupid. It's going to be some clerical error. Literally a mistaken label or something.

 

[teiresias]

What I thought was a bit, turned out to be genuine confusion. He should have said, "Emma, apparently you're Best Picture!"

I mean, when you obviously have a card that isn't for the right category (would the card for Best Actress even have the film's producers listed on it like the Best Picture card does? I doubt it) you get on the damn microphone and say, "I believe I have the wrong card, can a producer please come corroborate?"

Announcing an award that is based on votes cast is not you in a damn college acting course doing an improvisational scene.

 

[Granjinha]

It undermines the art if the lead characters are written from a disingenuous and/or ignorant place. That's kind of it.

Advantaged people in Hollywood win but also feel bad about winning: La La Land, written by a man who won young.

The above is reductive, but not wrong. The writing (sans the very end) is the weakest part of the movie. I really enjoyed it, but it's kind of tone-deaf and the only reason it got as far as it did in the Oscars is because Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Come the fuck on.

you know what i won't waste my time

think whatever you want

 

[Megalosaro]

#oscarssowoke

 

[mackaveli]

Don't they give the envelope to the winner with the award? for prosperity sake after or no?

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Really can't understand how people can undersell Moonlight after seeing it. Especially compared to La La Land... Talking about art, Moonlight IS ART. Heartless ghouls on GAF

I loved them both but loved LLL more. I'm not a monster.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I feel like I can't even enjoy it.

I wanted Moonlight to win, but fuccccccccck, they brought the La La Land crew onstage for the biggest win of the night and took it away.

I dunno, I'm apparently an asshole right now but this amusing development kinda made the slog worth it for me. The jokes because of it are also pretty good.

 

[Floridian]

Moonlight deserved a non screw up scenario tbh.

 

[notaskwid]

The real winner.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I feel like I can't even enjoy it.

I wanted Moonlight to win, but fuccccccccck, they brought the La La Land crew onstage for the biggest win of the night and took it away.

that was pretty shitty after all those speeches smh

I wanted Moonlight to win but that's gotta hurt

 

[MG310]

They took the Best Picture card out of Beatty's hand and showed it to the camera. It was Moonlight.

There was no wrong card given.

A man in a headset brought the right card out later.

 

[Rhaknar]

He never even called it, right? He just stood there looking (justifiably) confused until his co-presenter called it.

Yup

 

[Jigorath]

They took the Best Picture card out of Beatty's hand and showed it to the camera. It was Moonlight.

There was no wrong card given.

They obviously gave him the correct card after the screwup.

Beatty and Dunway had the wrong card when announcing the winner.

 

[friskykillface]

SNATCH

 

[Razorskin]

Emma Stone is Best Picture

 

[Icolin]

 

[Machspeed007]

So they gave him the wrong envelope?

 

[starchild excalibur]

yessssss!

 

[msdstc]

It undermines the art if the lead characters are written from a disingenuous and/or ignorant place. That's kind of it.

Advantaged people in Hollywood win but also feel bad about winning: La La Land, written by a man who won young.

The above is reductive, but not wrong. The writing (sans the very end) is the weakest part of the movie. I really enjoyed it, but it's kind of tone-deaf and the only reason it got as far as it did in the Oscars is because Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Come the fuck on.

Lol this is so wrong.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I feel like I can't even enjoy it.

I wanted Moonlight to win, but fuccccccccck, they brought the La La Land crew onstage for the biggest win of the night and took it away.

Yeah. But Moonlight was from a South Floridian. I'm happy either way.

 

[FeenixRising]

We fuckin' off with our Oscar.

Yall wild in this thread

 

[Shizuka]

Emma Stone is Best Picture

Maybe next year.

 

[JTripper]

I'm guessing there's no backstage photo of Barry Jenkins with Triple H?

 

[Nielm]

Nearly ripped his arm off.

 

[Big Chungus]

Was it the wrong envelope or was it the presenters fault?

 

[Eleuin]

I can't even watch it again, so embarrassing.

Yeah, nobody should have to go through that, props to the dude holding up the card

 

[shira]

I found it kinda weird Ryan Gosling wasn't with the La La land entourage when they were making their speech..hmmmm.

 

[SkywardBeam]

It was year of the boring Oscar movies. Manchester by the Sea is also kinda boring, save for a few spots. Hacksaw Ridge is where it's at.

Hell or High Water is anything but boring. Come on...

(Still a bit disappointed that HoHW didn't get a single Award, whereas f***ing Suicide Squad(!!) can now call itself "Academy Award Winning Movie" x_x)

 

[rocketskates]

You would still be wrong

Personal opinions and all that, how do they work?

It was year of the boring Oscar movies. Manchester by the Sea is also kinda boring, save for a few spots. Hacksaw Ridge is where it's at.

Manchester wasn't THAT boring but it definitely itely had its Zzzz moments. Personally I would have liked to see Arrival win but that wasn't going to happen. Hell or High Water was another favorite of mine. Hacksaw Ridge was a great movie, glad it won some awards but honestly I thought Andrew Garfield was better in Silence. But still, Hacksaw showing that Mel Gibson still has it.


But yeah, definitely a lackluster year all around.

 

[Afrocious]

Moonlight deserved a non screw up scenario tbh.

Exactly.

 

[renegade_dewitt]

So what happened? Why did the presenter say La La Land when the card itself said Moonlight? I mean, aren't you supposed to read what the card says, not what the envelope says?

 

[Kindekuma]

I noticed the front of the envelopes don't even have a description on them.

Totally could have been prevented if they just had a simple label on the front so the stage managers knew exactly which one to hand out and prevent this kind of mess.

 

[traveler]

It undermines the art if the lead characters are written from a disingenuous and/or ignorant place. That's kind of it.

Advantaged people in Hollywood win but also feel bad about winning: La La Land, written by a man who won young.

The above is reductive, but not wrong. The writing (sans the very end) is the weakest part of the movie. I really enjoyed it, but it's kind of tone-deaf and the only reason it got as far as it did in the Oscars is because Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Come the fuck on.

La La Land was written by a man failing to get anything off the ground in Hollywood. It wasn't until after he "made it big" with Whiplash that he even had any inkling of success or the ability to make the movie.

Not that any of this matters in film criticism anyway.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I'm really confused as to how this got screwed up. You have two people there to read the card, literally that's all they have to do. Warren looked like he couldn't do it and then they just said it without looking. I want details!

 

[NYR]

I can understand this guy, must have gone through so many emotions in a few minutes. I don't blame him.

 

[Javier]

 

[DMczaf]

Real as fuck

 

[tycoonheart]

 

[smokeymicpot]

Was it the wrong envelope or was it the presenters fault?

Wrong envelope.

 

[HeelPower]

Had this happened, it would've changed so many things.

Square Soft and Square Pictures would still be around :'(

 

[Mushroomer25]

Really unfortunate though that the best picture of the year won and all anyone's going to be talking about is the screw up.

Still, history books will give it to Moonlight. When people look through the 'consensus' of the 21st century's best films, Moonlight is there. That's big.