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[Damerman]

This definitely sucks for the Moonlight crew as they don't get an actual moment of having it properly announced and a full speech and stuff. Sucks for the LLL crew as well.

Yep, this should have been avoided.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Could you imagine if it had been the opposite?

Oh it would have been excellent. Hacksaw Ridge should have been announced as the 2nd and official winner for maximum fuckery. A pissed LLL & Moonlight crew and Mel fucking Gibson all on stage. That would have been magnificent.

 

[Seesaw15]

 

[droggg]

Glad Moonlight won as it was the most deserving, but the La La Land backlash continues to annoy me as it seems like enough of, obviously not all, of the people shitting on it never wanted to like it in first place. If you legitimately think it's "white people save Jazz", fascist, or it has autotuned (!?) objectivly bad music; you never wanted to like this movie.

I think LLL is a great fucking movie it is charming as hell and one of the best shot films I've ever seen. That said, it has plenty of valid criticisms. But in the world of Twitter and hot takes on the internet, everything is black and white: "the thing I like is the best thing ever and the thing I don't is hot dog shit and you're a stupid idiot for liking it."

You can like more than one thing, Moonlight and La La Land are my two favorite movies this year and for totally different reasons, and since the Golden Globes I thought Moonlight had a real good chance of winning, because of how great it was and due it's message in the current political climate. It's the more important movie. But premptivly everyone shit on how out of touch the Academy would be, when in actuality they are probably the most liberal group of 6000 people you can find in America. Obviously, there is still huge diversity problems in Hollywood, just annoying how cynical people are today. Maybe it's hard to be optimistic the way the country is currently.

Anyway, sucks that this ended in a snafu, Moonlight deserved its name to be read and for the crowd to errupt, and LLL didn't deserve to have to walk off the stage awkwardly.

There is a wrestling metaphore to be made here about bad twist endings

Nailed it.

 

[VaultBoy101]

I was just thinking that even though this was a bad screw-up, it would have been so much worse if it had happened in a single-winner category. Like "Oops, sorry to interrupt you Emma but Isabelle actually won."

 

[RootCause]

Color coded envelopes? Has that been tried before?

 

[TheStruggler]

He's taking the opportunity to thank those meaningful to him while he has the spotlight; not trying to pool the wool over everyone's eyes. Hardly disgusting.

ya but he also knew he lost, I get he wants to thank his parents etc but he gave an acceptance speech when he knew he lost then admitted it after his speech

 

[Brinbe]

Vic Venom would be proud

 

[teiresias]

Ok serious talk now: help me understand Oscar logic. Why does a movie with 6 Oscars looses to a movie that won just one? How does that work? Same shit they pulled last year when Spotlight with 1 beat Mad Max' and The Revenant which won 5 and 3 respectively.

What's the logic behind this?

Each category is voted on individually and certain categories (I believe) are restricted to certain categories of production staff, so mathematically there is no reason BP winner has to be the one with the most wins.

 

[nhlducks35]

https://twitter.com/PwC_LLP/status/836070691946442753

 

[Trigonometrize.]

Wow. Being in the situation that he was in and going on to defuse it, and he's a POS? This is nonsense. If you knew him you'd be patting him on the back. Jeez

 

[Via Purifico]

This will go down as Envelope Gate

 

[Einchy]

This is his origin story.

 

[ComputerBlue]

La La Land and Moonlight if you want to pick two standouts, will be overshadowed by this unfortunate nonsense.

This will do nothing but greatly benefit both films.

 

[Nepenthe]

So many posts shitting on moonlight/moonlight fans right after LLL's fake win. Is a wall of shame even possible?

It's actually not as big as you'd think.

Let the salt flow through you

The Gaf Salt

Bring the salt!

YES! Suck it, haters.

Suck it, haters.

Screw the haters! La La Land is amazing!

hahahaha the salt

We're gonna need a bigger boat for all this salt

Salt is delicious.

Haha, suck it haters. La La Land deserved that shit.

I just want to say, I'm here for all of you. I understand celebrating in the midst of a mix-up before it's clarified. Just as well, as happy as I am for Moonlight, I have no real skin in the game that is this particular spectacle because I've already written off the Oscars due to how out-of-touch I feel the voting populous generally is. So I won't judge your sore winning too badly.

 

[Veldin]

https://streamable.com/cf9te

lol I need to lie down

 

[BlastProcessing]

https://streamable.com/cf9te

A sign of a true great is when they take something obvious and execute it in the best way possible.

This is perfect.

 

[The One and Done™]

Great post. I just hate this "It's either perfect in all ways or absolute dogshit" thing.

There are people who think LLL is shit? That's flat out untrue.

 

[Zasa]

Glad Moonlight won as it was the most deserving, but the La La Land backlash continues to annoy me as it seems like enough of, obviously not all, of the people shitting on it never wanted to like it in first place. If you legitimately think it's "white people save Jazz", fascist, or it has autotuned (!?) objectivly bad music; you never wanted to like this movie.

I think LLL is a great fucking movie it is charming as hell and one of the best shot films I've ever seen. That said, it has plenty of valid criticisms. But in the world of Twitter and hot takes on the internet, everything is black and white: "the thing I like is the best thing ever and the thing I don't is hot dog shit and you're a stupid idiot for liking it."

You can like more than one thing, Moonlight and La La Land are my two favorite movies this year and for totally different reasons, and since the Golden Globes I thought Moonlight had a real good chance of winning, because of how great it was and due it's message in the current political climate. It's the more important movie. But premptivly everyone shit on how out of touch the Academy would be, when in actuality they are probably the most liberal group of 6000 people you can find in America. Obviously, there is still huge diversity problems in Hollywood, just annoying how cynical people are today. Maybe it's hard to be optimistic the way the country is currently.

Anyway, sucks that this ended in a snafu, Moonlight deserved its name to be read and for the crowd to errupt, and LLL didn't deserve to have to walk off the stage awkwardly.

There is a wrestling metaphore to be made here about bad twist endings

Great post, & very eloquently put, couldn't agree more. Pity people can't appreciate both works of art.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

They were informed that Moonlight won while the first guy was giving his speech. The second guy went on to give his speech knowing that they lost, probably because he wanted to thank his parents or some shit and it was his only chance.

That guy is shady af.

Watch it again. The second guy clearly knew what was happening as he went up, and even says "btw we lost" at the end of his speech: https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/836085115981746176

'we lost btw' yeah that was shitty to stay up there thanking folks and shit

 

[stupei]

He's taking the opportunity to thank those meaningful to him while he has the spotlight; not trying to pool the wool over everyone's eyes. Hardly disgusting.

Nah, it's really not okay. They're taking up more time that belongs to the actual winner, adding to the confusion, and leading into the announcement of the real winner in a bitter and petty way. I get that he must have felt emotional, but it comes across as very gross and disrespectful to his peers, unlike Horowitz.

 

[therealist]

Could you imagine if it had been the opposite?

We would have seen some terrible posts from Gaffers thats for sure.

 

[Rhaknar]

Do the double toasted guys cover the oscars? :3

 

[lupinko]

Who pulled the Steve Harvey this year?

 

[cyba89]

I was just thinking that even though this was a bad screw-up, it would have been so much worse if it had happened in a single-winner category. Like "Oops, sorry to interrupt you Emma but Isabelle actually won."

Imagine how the internet would've exploded if this happened with Leo last year.

 

[Laieon]

There are people who think LLL is shit? That's flat out untrue.

A very large portion of GAF apparently does. For me personally, the only movie I saw in 2016 that was better than La La Land was the Wailing.

 

[GabeTheGrouch76]

This was all Nintendo's fault

That's good. That's damn good.

 

[msdstc]

There are people who think LLL is shit? That's flat out untrue.

LOL

 

[RobotsAnger]

They were informed that Moonlight won while the first guy was giving his speech. The second guy went on to give his speech knowing that they lost, probably because he wanted to thank his parents or some shit and it was his only chance.

That guy is shady af.

Watch it again. The second guy clearly knew what was happening as he went up, and even says "btw we lost" at the end of his speech: https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/836085115981746176

To play devil's advocate, he is shaking his head and appears to say "no. no." while we hear someone say "keep going".

 

[Tanis]

I'm not talking about the retort. If he knew they didn't win, he should not have continued with the speech. It's improper. They should have stopped and just corrected it immediately.

I think Horowitz was only half listening and assuming the other producer was clearing things up for the audience. You can see he is pretty pissed when he actually tunes in and realises the dude is giving an accepance speech as if La La Land had still won.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Ryan Gosling was never expected to win at all

Well I can't put the entire cast of La La Land, then I gotta put the entire Golden St Warriors and the entire Atlanta Falcons

 

[Fantastical]

Hopefully people can stop with the LLL hot takes and willful mischaracterization now.

 

[Glass Shark]

This is the first time I've skipped watching the Oscars in years.

I sure know how to pick 'em.

 

[Jarmel]

Huffington Post did an article on what would happen if the wrong name was read just yesterday.

Cullinan is one of the people you see running out there to correct things.

oops.

 

[Seesaw15]

Do the double toasted guys cover the oscars? :3

They did a live stream. I don't know if it was archived.

 

[Via Purifico]

Do the double toasted guys cover the oscars? :3

If they don't they damn sure will now lol. I'll be on the lookout for that.

edit beaten

 

[Chumley]

Is that some sort of photoshopped Leo / Nicholson nightmare?

No, it's real.

Leo the gawd.

 

[RootCause]

Wow. Being in the situation that he was in and going on to defuse it, and he's a POS? This is nonsense. If you knew him you'd be patting him on the back. Jeez

Two bald dudes. Though I wouldn't shit on either one.

 

[Evil's Bane]

Do the double toasted guys cover the oscars? :3

You missed the free live stream they did. It was lit.

 

[discospider]

LLL was great, Moonlight was better, and Manchester by the Sea was even better than that.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Wow. Being in the situation that he was in and going on to defuse it, and he's a POS? This is nonsense. If you knew him you'd be patting him on the back. Jeez

No one is a piece of shit in this situation, it's just weird. (especially the guy who knew and still started his speech)

 

[Icolin]

Great post. I just hate this "It's either perfect in all ways or absolute dogshit" thing.

I mean, just look at this stuff here and here and here. While you can have your opinions on movies, this sort of stuff, and the "SUCK IT LA LA LAND FANS" stuff is just dumb. Why can't we like what we like or congratulate what wins without shitting on the things other people like that we don't like or the things that lose?

 

[Clydefrog]

I guess the wiki hasn't been updated yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PricewaterhouseCoopers#Controversies

 

[reKon]

uh, so I just tried catching up and I guess some shit when down?

 

[BLACKLAC]

Haha, suck it haters. La La Land deserved that shit.

 

[TheStruggler]

Wow. Being in the situation that he was in and going on to defuse it, and he's a POS? This is nonsense. If you knew him you'd be patting him on the back. Jeez

you do realise the guy who gave the speech, and the guy who called it how it was that moonlight won were two different people right...?

 

[LionPride]

We would have seen some terrible posts from Gaffers thats for sure.

I would probably get banned for harsh language towards posters

 

[Damerman]

I'm not talking about the retort. If he knew they didn't win, he should not have continued with the speech. It's improper. They should have stopped and just corrected it immediately.

Yep that was very unbecoming

 

[trh]

I'm not talking about the retort. If he knew they didn't win, he should not have continued with the speech. It's improper. They should have stopped and just corrected it immediately.

He might have been extremely confused, operating on adrenaline from thinking he won. I'm guessing it's not exactly easy to process what is happening around you during a moment like that, with your focus entirely on getting in your thank yous and what not. The 'you guys didn't win' portion might have not sunk in until he realized the ruckus behind him. I seriously doubt he decided to fuck around on stage for a bit of fun.

 

[SaniOYOYOY]

A very large portion of GAF apparently does. For me personally, the only movie I saw in 2016 that was better than La La Land was the Wailing.

well gaf is a gaming forum so its a possibility XD