I'm not calling Horowitz a piece of shit, I think you're confused. Horowitz is the gentleman and hero of the day here. The guy who kept going on and on knowing they didn't win was wasting everyone's time and being a douche.
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The 89th Academy Awards |OT| La La Land up 3-1, they got this
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I'm not calling Horowitz a piece of shit, I think you're confused. Horowitz is the gentleman and hero of the day here. The guy who kept going on and on knowing they didn't win was wasting everyone's time and being a douche.
KraftyKrankins
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Yup, did a free show. You should check out their reaction to the fuck up. It's beautiful.
riskybusinesstomcruise
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Art forms don't have a skin colour.
Doubt he cares.Won best director.
Immensely difficult award to get,even more so at his age.
Lights and Waves
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Dissing LLL is the fastest way to get cool points on the internet.
The One and Done
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It's actually not as big as you'd think.
I just want to say, I'm here for all of you. I understand celebrating in the midst of a mix-up before it's clarified. Just as well, as happy as I am for Moonlight, I have no real skin in the game that is this particular spectacle because I've already written off the Oscars due to how out-of-touch I feel the voting populous generally is. So I won't judge your sore winning too badly.
Omg is all that real?
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, that's how it looked to me, too. Horowitz looks like he's trying to round up his crew (and the statues) so they can be turned over to the rightful winners. And then he realizes Berger is basically still reading off thank yous while holding a statue that isn't his anymore.
At which point he's like "No. No, this is wrong."
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Somebody is seriously getting fired for this, I mean it is quite the huge fuck up if you think about it, it made a fool of two old Hollywood legends (Beatty and Dunaway, not only it made them look stupid, also made them look guilty of the mess.)
Add to that humiliating the entire cast and crew of La La Land, going up on stage, taking statues that don't even belong to them, getting all worked up to give a speech, only to be told to hand back the statues and get off the stage, yeah... There's goign to be a lot of yelling and complaining back stage by these producers who feel super humiliated... Someone is goign to take a fall for this so their egos can be curbed.
jack_package_200
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This post showed I was wrong about my earlier assumption about if the reverse happened. I was wrong. I'll hold that L
Where can I find this?
Lol PWC
Adams and Silence getting shafted are my biggest upsets. I especially can't comprehend what happened with Silence since it's a Scorcese joint and one of his most passionate, if not most passionate, films he's ever made.
Yea Moonlight really deserved it!
Trigonometrize.
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I thought the guy that called it also spoke some about the "win"
There's two sets of envelopes, and he must have taken/been given the backup one for Best Actress.
Yes. People are mixing things up; there were three people who spoke, and the first guy (with hair) egged the third to go on.
Everyone handled it fine. It's fine. No one's an asshole; it was an unprecedented situation.
gutter_trash
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OdinDemonZero
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HOLY SHIT
I was just thinking that the Curb theme would be perfect for this moment
LMAO
SenjutsuSage
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I don't blame Warren Beatty. He actually realized something was wrong and tried to warn everyone. The blame goes to his clueless onstage counterpart for not realizing something was amiss.
Galactic Specter
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oh my god
BlastProcessing
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Do you really think that he fully understood what was going on and intentionally tried to steal Moonlight's stage time? Again, I've been on a stage like that and it's such an adrenaline rush that your ears start ringing. I really don't think he did anything wrong there. This is a wildly unprecedented situation. This is not something that an Oscar nominee intellectually or emotionally guards themselves for.
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The One and Done;231099917 said:
No, there are. There are people that think it's flat-out bad. But there are also (like myself) who think it's actually quite good, but that it wasn't deserving of all the nominations that it got. A lot of time these two groups are lumped together.
There are certain awards that I think LLL deserved to win (best original song, production design), categories that I think it'd be fine to win although maybe not the only/best option, and then categories it flat out didn't deserve to win at all (best original screenplay). I think many people probably feel similarly and - depending on the category - were either happy with the win or thought it was complete bullshit.
But the quoter is right about how black and white a lot of people treat the Oscars. In the case of LLL vs. Moonlight I think, for many, it comes down to a film that's viewed as reinforcing the straight, white male dominion of Hollywood vs. a film that's done by outsiders who usually have less light shone on their own stories. I don't know that the directors personally feel that way - at least as far as this "me vs. him" sort of opposition - but it's definitely easy to frame it no differently than a Superbowl game.
The Widget
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Will be now.
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I wouldn't call ripping the card out of Warren Beatty's hands handling well.
The switch has been killing it holy shit
It's actually not as big as you'd think.
I just want to say, I'm here for all of you. I understand celebrating in the midst of a mix-up before it's clarified. Just as well, as happy as I am for Moonlight, I have no real skin in the game that is this particular spectacle because I've already written off the Oscars due to how out-of-touch I feel the voting populous generally is. So I won't judge your sore winning too badly.
To be fair, I'm not anti-Moonlight, I'm anti-people irrationally hating La La Land. Moonlight was my third favorite film this year. I adored it just a smidgen less than Manchester By The Sea and La La Land, and I'm very happy for it. I liked those two films more, but Moonlight emerged at such an important period of time, and has the potential to be seen as an important film of this era, and perhaps reflect a cultural shift in regards to the treatment and portrayal of racial and sexual minorities.
Jazz, much like most modern music, was originated and crafted by us and stolen without giving us credit. It makes sense why people were a tad bit hurt by La La Land and that shit.
Art absolutely can take on, regurgitate, and reinforce ethnic identities and stereotypes, because it's made by humans perpetually immersed in that headspace.
Yeah I hadn't seen the full portion of them being informed. I take it back, dude was in the wrong. Was way less chaotic than i assumed. He was prodded to go take the mic but he was totally aware.
I said it in the Movies You've Watched Recently thread, it's like they went A-M and then stopped, leaving Nocturnal Animals and Silence off.
The One and Done
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I actually did not know that. Thanks!
casinoman921
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Did the Emma Stone card not say Best Actress at the bottom of it? I'm confused why they just went along with it. Dumb mistake.
I feel pretty bad for Warren.
Popcorn eating gifs are highly overrated
In a country with a history long marred by racial injustice and inequality, yeah they do.
I think the backlash is going to come from Deserving people not even being nominated.
then Affleck with that Denzel speech again. like dude why even do him like that.
Huppert being robbed.
Sing Street getting no nominations in the musical categories is the biggest offender though.
Watch this again:
https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/836085115981746176
He backs away from the mic; he isn't even going to give the speech, then he's told to just go for it anyways, while the Oscars staff is still walking through the group explaning things.
He didn't handle it perfectly at all, but he is not a "piece of shit" for this, christ.
LLL isn't a retelling of Jazz history.
Its about a guy who's passionate about Jazz.I don't see why a person of any colour can't be passionate about Jazz.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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I loved La La Land, my MOTY last year
Glad Moonlight got the win! Incredible movie.
lol that thread title is amazing
Glad Moonlight got the win! Incredible movie.
lol that thread title is amazing
KraftyKrankins
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On their website, it's on the main page. Here's the link just in case: https://doubletoasted.com/show/free-show-double-toasted-oscar-special-530-pm-cst/
=P No need to explain yourself. I honestly was just pulling out the people who mentioned either "salt" or "haters." Again, I had no real skin in the game. I wasn't even watching the show, but it still does this little black woman some good to know that a movie prominently featuring LGBT black people took Best Picture from a more traditionally Hollywood "white film," even if it's good!
I think Warren saw that
But he showed to Faye, and she just saw the La La Land and read out loud
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