The Amazing Spider-Man 2 |SPOILER THREAD| Enter Marcs Webb
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I thought this movie was a colossal turd. If you could just watch the scenes of Spidey fighting with zero context it would be cool, they really nailed that, but the rest of the movie was terribad.
What was the point of the two planes nearly colliding subplot?
Why was Electros theme so laughably bad?
Why didn't Peter just give Harry some blood? His best friend is dying......
Why did Harry turn normal instead of staying as the lead singer from sum 41?
I could go on and on and on, but this blew super balls.
What was the point of the two planes nearly colliding subplot?
Why was Electros theme so laughably bad?
Why didn't Peter just give Harry some blood? His best friend is dying......
Why did Harry turn normal instead of staying as the lead singer from sum 41?
I could go on and on and on, but this blew super balls.
WordsintheWater
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This sums up my opinion pretty well. I really enjoyed Spider Man being Spider Man, and Peter being Peter, but everything else felt off.
Also, it was hilarious when Electo's pants came back after he dematerialized himself. Then he had a suit hours later?
To add a sense of urgency to the final fight. I didn't think it needed it either.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I liked how Spider-Man's webbing could reach Gwen for ages even though, during the Times Square battle, they literally travel faster than electricity.
And Hans Zimmer dub-step. Good god.
And Hans Zimmer dub-step. Good god.
Haloid1177
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Nope. Raimi films at least balance what little camp they have with good movie. This didn't do that.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Every scene involving planes was unnecessary. Including the opening scene.
soul creator
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I thought I was listening to JRPG boss battle music
Edit: Electro's story becomes kind of amazing if you interpret it as a black man's struggle against the white power structure. lol at him walking down the street in a hoodie, and setting off car alarms he's nowhere close to. dat subtle race commentary
I'm only half joking
go blue electro go go
I noticed they cut the scene where Harry mentions to Peter that Oscorp has been spying on him.
Wonder why. Didn't really feel like it was missing either anyways.
Also, for a while I thought the Rhino was completely cut out of the movie, im surprised they actually used the final shot in the film in all the trailers lol, though it actually worked really well.
Wonder why. Didn't really feel like it was missing either anyways.
Also, for a while I thought the Rhino was completely cut out of the movie, im surprised they actually used the final shot in the film in all the trailers lol, though it actually worked really well.
Norman had monster hands, so I'm assuming he's transformed before and is being kept alive by life support machines or something. Either way the disease thing is kind of lame.
EDIT: I misread your post, yeah, he made the demand for Peter's blood a really urgent need. Even though his dad was able to live a while without it lol. It's not like he's too broke to get whatever treatment Norman is getting. Lol.
His dad said he had tried all sorts of stuff to keep himself alive and prolong his life. Without all of that, he would have died much earlier.
Mine had NOTHING at the end...did I get cheated?
Weird - which country did you see the movie in? But nope, felt like most of the crowd that waited was disappointed.
I am in the US, saw a screening Wednesday night and usually if there are after credit stuff, they are shown. Everyone grown when nothing was there.
Because it was fun and showed Max enjoying, exploring his powers, and "one-upping" Spider-man. If you want to be noticed by Spider-man, maybe even respected, playing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" while kicking his ass might be one way to do it.
so overall I really loved the movie. I just wanted to throw in here that I loved that they actually bothered to show Pete trying to figure out how to make is web shooters electric proof, that was great.
my only criticism is that they coulda cut the parents plot entirely, as well as the planes colliding bit and the movie would have been shorter and better for it
my only criticism is that they coulda cut the parents plot entirely, as well as the planes colliding bit and the movie would have been shorter and better for it
No idea. Maybe the theater got a cut of the movie before the scene was added. :/ But again, not really missing much, especially if you got the X-Men trailer beforehand.
His bluetooth voltmeter machine thingy on the side of his head kept reappearing as well. I guess you're not supposed to think about it, kind of like how teleporting characters keep their clothes.
When he hit himself with the crowbar was probably the funniest part of the movie and captured the character really well. This really was Peter Parker from Ultimate Spider-man come to life.
I'm not sure I agree about the parents, I do think it's central to his character that he knows the fate of his parents so he can move on and become who he needs to be. It also sets stuff up for future installments. I do agree with the planes, seemed pretty pointless and dragged the climax.
I also don't understand all the criticism about Peter not just giving Harry his blood anyway.
I thought it was made pretty clear they Peter and Gwen suspected the blood could turn him into some kind of monster freak thing ala the Lizard, and since the disease obviously takes a long time to kill you, there wasn't a need to rush it
I thought it was made pretty clear they Peter and Gwen suspected the blood could turn him into some kind of monster freak thing ala the Lizard, and since the disease obviously takes a long time to kill you, there wasn't a need to rush it
MarkMclovin
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Thought it was great but I did go in with lower expectations than the 1st. The 1st big scene with Electro in time Square I thought was great and that slow mo bit with the people on the podium about to touch the rail, fuck me I was like aaaw shit how the hell is he going to save them? And the music especially some of the more tech beats stuff (I'm assuming from Junkie XL) was great.
I thought it was alright, better than the first and SP3.
I wish they had kept on the whole genetic mutation line for bad guys. The Lizard wasn't a great bad guy, but it was the start of what I was hoping would then lead on to the other well known characters. I would have far preferred a crazy genetically engineered Rhino man, kinda like the character from the first ASM game, but better.
I wish they had kept on the whole genetic mutation line for bad guys. The Lizard wasn't a great bad guy, but it was the start of what I was hoping would then lead on to the other well known characters. I would have far preferred a crazy genetically engineered Rhino man, kinda like the character from the first ASM game, but better.
giancarlo123x
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Gwen's deathly was shockingly violent. That thud was sick. Sad that she had to go.
It was quite jarring and you felt that force but tbh, I'm glad she is gone cause I couldn't stand one more scene of them breaking up and getting back together...4 was enough.
The death flags in the movie were laughable and it felt like they really tried to push the relationship stuff onto the viewer to make her death sting more, and also cause they didn't really do much in the last movie. When Peter obsessed over her with the entire "I'm going to England with you" and she was all set for it, I literally told myself "yep she's dead".
Really there's no other reason to have Gwen in a Spider-Man movie if you're not going to kill her off.
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Yea, no it wasn't needed at all since that whole thing is what the Uncle Ben plot point has been about for spiderman for decades. The crap with his parents was just the same thing, and instead of Pete being all broken up about Uncle Ben and that classic story motivation, they redid it with his Parents? Pointless. They made us waste an hour sitting through the whole Uncle Ben origin of Spidey in the first movie, but then toss that out to just repeat it in this movie now with his dad? Huge waste of time.
It's a completely different point. Uncle Ben -- Great Power, Responsibility... classic Hero Motivation.
The point with his parents is more personal. Although it re-affirmed the importance of responsibility in their family, he had to know about his parents simply so he could KNOW why he left him and not have any pent up anger about it. Closure.
I agree with this. It was just really dragged out for minimal payoff.
We still haven't gotten the payoff that is the most damning thing about the whole parents thread.
Indeed.
We haven't? How haven't we? That entire thread is fully resolved.
Pretty shitty movie. Over the top corny shit, bad pacing, bad villains, bad dialogue...just bad.
Spidey saves it when hes in the suit, and the Gwen death scene was really well done. Spidey fans (and there are a lot of em) will dig parts of this no doubt but man there were some painful scenes to sit through, and other scenes where you have to turn your brain completely off to believe it.
And for god sakes Oscorp get some better security. This is the second movie where a high school kid with no skills or training just sneaks into the most top secret area to move the plot along
Spidey saves it when hes in the suit, and the Gwen death scene was really well done. Spidey fans (and there are a lot of em) will dig parts of this no doubt but man there were some painful scenes to sit through, and other scenes where you have to turn your brain completely off to believe it.
And for god sakes Oscorp get some better security. This is the second movie where a high school kid with no skills or training just sneaks into the most top secret area to move the plot along
He said that it could kill him. Harry didn't talk about taking the time and researching a cure using the blood. Not to mention Harry, as far as we know, doesn't have the background to research a cure himself so he would have to use Oscorp resources which, given the events of the previous movie, I think we can understand any hesitation Peter might have in dealing with them.
He was already exhibiting the signs of the disease when he started looking for the cure. The lesion on his neck that was larger later in the movie was already there, in a smaller form, during the conversation with Peter about convincing Spider-Man in Oscorp. You'll notice that in the elevator when he's talking to Gwen he's wearing a scarf to cover it up.
You mean the guy that Peter hasn't seen or spoken to in 8 years, since they were 11 years old? Yeah, I can't understand any hesitation there. Especially when, as I said previously, he would probably use Oscorp resources to find the cure and god knows what they'd do with the blood.
Including several scenes in which Peter wasn't a part so he wouldn't be equipped with the same knowledge as the audience.
Your originally brief statement about the scene made it sound like you had a loose understanding of why that scene was there and not necessarily a problem with the scene itself.
The coloring of Norman and his hands both should indicate to the viewer that he had already followed the same path (taking the venom) that Harry took later in the movie. As Harry is transforming in the Special Projects lab you see his hands change to look the same as his father's hands. It's possible to infer that Norman lived so long because of the venom.
Give him your fucking blood, Jesus Christ.
There's something up when I'm cheering on Electro and Harry, ultimately I found Harry to be the most interesting character and wanted him to take out the baddies at Oscorp. Really happy he'll be coming back.
After hearing so much about the action, Times Square scene wasn't all that, it was just the finale that had it all.
The movie feels weird without a central villain or the duo being a proper driving force. When both Electro and Harry were taken out it felt more like "That's it?"
Oh and the whole thing with the airplanes was completely unnecessary. So was the parents subplot.
Though, I loved the way the movie ended. Its exactly as it should be, he finally gets up and trudges through. He has to move on with life and re-assume his responsibility. Thought it was great to end it on the Rhino battle.
But after just seeing SM2 two days ago and seeing this last night, Spider-Man 2>The Amazing Spider-Man 2
There's something up when I'm cheering on Electro and Harry, ultimately I found Harry to be the most interesting character and wanted him to take out the baddies at Oscorp. Really happy he'll be coming back.
After hearing so much about the action, Times Square scene wasn't all that, it was just the finale that had it all.
The movie feels weird without a central villain or the duo being a proper driving force. When both Electro and Harry were taken out it felt more like "That's it?"
Oh and the whole thing with the airplanes was completely unnecessary. So was the parents subplot.
Though, I loved the way the movie ended. Its exactly as it should be, he finally gets up and trudges through. He has to move on with life and re-assume his responsibility. Thought it was great to end it on the Rhino battle.
But after just seeing SM2 two days ago and seeing this last night, Spider-Man 2>The Amazing Spider-Man 2
why would you rush that when A) he clearly has 20-30 years to try and further research a cure B) you don't know what the fuck his blood could turn him into (another monster like the lizard)? I do not understand the issues people are having with this point...
Yeah, it's not that complicated. People are looking for things to have issues with, when it's been laid out very well in this thread exactly why he wouldn't do such a thing. Great post Jhriad.
I kinda wish they just focused on Green Goblin in this movie. Rhino at the beginning and the end was fine, but Electro wasn't needed, and the parents subplot wasn't needed. Goblin pretty much got the Venom in Spidey 3 treatment. I know he'll be back in the sequels, but still...
The Night Gwen Stacy Died is a strong enough story to carry an entire film. Don't need to add a bunch of other stories and villains in there.
The Night Gwen Stacy Died is a strong enough story to carry an entire film. Don't need to add a bunch of other stories and villains in there.
Ascenion
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So just curious, is Electro dead or is he just.....dispersed because unlike Goblin and Lizard he met an relatively ambiguous end, and Spider-man doesn't deliberately kill people. I'm hoping he's alive because all things considered I thought Jamie Foxx was pretty damn good. I mean the set up with the birthday and the obsession over Spidey then the mental issues. It was good, then the script I guess just said fuck you Electro. So much wasted potential there for a main villian. Then it all moves away for goblin to be exactly what I expected, a twist to set up ASM 3, though I was honestly expecting it half way through the 3rd act not giving Peter time to grieve appropriately for Gwen with Electro being the main baddie he hadn't stopped yet. A really great film but still not the best handling of multiple villains but hella better than Spider-Man 3.
I think I heard Jamie Foxx say something among the lines of "you can't kill electricity".
He'll probably be back for Sinister Six.
The payoff would be the full use of all of his research in the form of enemies of Spider-man. In the terms of what happened to the parents yeah that thread is resolved.
Ultimately he DID turn into another monster anyways due to his desperation of finding the source.
Man how fucked up is that being in his situation where you're terminally ill and the guy who can potentially save you is essentially giving you the finger.
Saw this last night. Thought it was decent, but just way too many different plots going on at once for a movie. I know most movies tend to film things out of order and all that, but sometimes it felt like they filmed a bunch of different scenes and then stitched them together without any real overall goal.
Sad that they killed off Gwen, though obviously that had to happen at some point.
Anyone else feel like Spider-Man didn't make enough jokes? I don't know. Maybe he needs to start thinking outloud or something.
Sad that they killed off Gwen, though obviously that had to happen at some point.
Anyone else feel like Spider-Man didn't make enough jokes? I don't know. Maybe he needs to start thinking outloud or something.
The payoff was the revelation that the spiders had Parker blood integrated into them. This means that only a Parker can get real benefit from the experiment, and everyone else who tried to will just get some sort of negative effects. Like i said, the payoff was pretty meh, but at least it's been wrapped up.
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