YianGaruga
Banned
what the fuck
I don't get why single player games need to get "balance" patches like this. I'm pretty sure Edmund had a "no nerfs" stance at some point as well.
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The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth |OT| Pixel Heart Mother
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what the fuck
I don't get why single player games need to get "balance" patches like this. I'm pretty sure Edmund had a "no nerfs" stance at some point as well.
SerTapTap
Member
WHAT?! take more hearts, sure, but fuck him spawning spiders. That better mean blue spiders too.
ahah what
YianGaruga
Banned
Yeah it's blue attack spiders, but still.
Haunted
Member
I understood that reference.
SerTapTap
Member
I'm totally fine with killing seeds for challenge runs, that was obviously an exploit. And ya'll should suffer like me
Ah, still a dick move, hopefully hearts are more common than spiders.
Ah, still a dick move, hopefully hearts are more common than spiders.
If these changes work out like I hope they do I may start doing hard mode rather than normal mode runs for casual fun. I just hated the low number of bombs and keys you would get that left you sometimes unable to get treasure rooms or leaving behind marked rocks. More champions makes normal rooms actually difficult and the alternate bosses add more variety.
It is more champion bosses I believe (I may be wrong), sorry for the inexact wording. Some of them are easier but others are harder. I think the change in behavior makes them more difficult and interesting even if their strength is the same.
Yes. Crack the sky/Dead sea has always been horrible, not sure why they didn't put both on very low charges.
Wow goes from one of the best items to worst? It's like a devil dealed Sissy Longlegs that eats your hearts?!
YianGaruga
Banned
It still spawns Soul Hearts as well. Don't know the chance for either though.
SerTapTap
Member
Unless the chance is 50-50 or in favor of spiders I wouldn't panic too much about Dark Bum. If it's a 25% chance or less to spawn spiders it's still decent
Cosmetic items go into different "slots" and Stompy seems to be very easy to override. I've had Pagent Boy override lots of cool headwear too
Cosmetic items go into different "slots" and Stompy seems to be very easy to override. I've had Pagent Boy override lots of cool headwear too
Is it possible to unlock achievements in Steam Offline mode?
Attack Spiders aren't bad, there are definitely times where I'd take it over more soul hearts.
I'd want more than a single spider for 2 hearts though.
Yea I unlocked a few when my internet was out for a day. It unlocked while I was playing too, didn't have to wait to reconnect AFAIK.
I'd want more than a single spider for 2 hearts though.
Yea I unlocked a few when my internet was out for a day. It unlocked while I was playing too, didn't have to wait to reconnect AFAIK.
Banana Aeon
Member
Wow, Dark Bum sucks now. Fucking fantastic.
Head of Krampus got a nerf too. At six rooms charges, now it's a reroll item for me.
Head of Krampus got a nerf too. At six rooms charges, now it's a reroll item for me.
SerTapTap
Member
I think so. Steam is hilariously lax about achievements as evidenced by the instant-unlock tools for achievements
A Link to the Past
Banned
Making good Hard Mode progress. Judas and Maggy have only the Sheol path to clear in Hard Mode, and I have to do all of Hard Mode with three more characters.
Dead Sea Scrolls being random means it is always going to be bad, it is a more interesting dud than many other bad items at least. Crack the sky needs more reliability in hitting enemies and dealing damage to be good, low charges would just distract from the real problem. Maybe have the beams not be random and hit enemies while lowering the number of beams, max 1 beam per enemy?
DoubledOgre
Member
Nerfing Krampus head really sucks. Should have just kept it the same charge rate but made it spawn less if they really thought it was OP. I already didn't take it half the time on account of having a better spacebar item anyway.
damn that stinks. Not a fan of lil brimstone for the most part but is there a forum/wiki/etc that lists seeds with easily accessible items or something?
Also, didn't the last patch (PS4) make it so that Dark bum needed two hearts to convert a soul heart. Pretty sure the game launched with it being 1:1. The chance of spawning spider sucks though
MacGurcules
Member
Even if it's not, it doesn't check for version every time you run it. You could make a copy of your install, let it update, then copy the old version back in. It'll stick around until you manually force a check or they push another update.
dickroach
Member
I don't usually waste the heart on Lil Brimstone, but it made Cat Got Your Tongue and Family Man pretty damn easy
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Lil'_Brimstone
Palette Swap
Member
Fuck me. I just did a Cain run through the Dark Room. I had Daddy Long Legs, Brimstone, Holy Mantle and Tammy's Head.
I managed to lose one heart once in the Dark Room in one of these rooms with all the ghosts that teleport.
So close.
I managed to lose one heart once in the Dark Room in one of these rooms with all the ghosts that teleport.
So close.
Amazing, I didn't know that! Thank you!
Palette Swap
Member
There's no usable as strong as the Tammy/Brimstone combo IMO. There are few bosses it doesn't one shot, it's radial and you can use it once per room.
The biggest issue is obviously its occurence rate.
It's just that you can find combos like that everywhere. Unicorn stump + midas touch is really great as well, but as a standalone item krampus' head was far better than almost everything else. I'm fine with the nerf.
Joe Molotov
Member
Thanks for nerfing all the best items.
MacGurcules
Member
In my opinion,
- D6
- D10
- The Nail
- Book of Belial
- Candle
- Guppy's Head
- Tammy's Head (sometimes)
- Blank Card (often)
MichaelFassbender
Member
Thanks for nerfing all the best items.
Glad I got on it as early as I did...Dark Bum was amazingly overpowered.
It was fun.
Joe Molotov
Member
My last run with Dark Bum, I already had 12 red hearts. RIP Bum
A Link to the Past
Banned
Book of Revs is still pretty good. Gives you orbitals, gives you devil deal protection, and increases your devil deal chance.
- Fix hard mode affecting room drops other than hearts
Woah, woah, hold the phone, are they saying they made hard mode fun? Megaton!
- Fix Devil Deal exploit with half soul heart
Come on, no one asked for that. Going down to half a soul heart is a massive risk, it should come with a reward!
- Change Lil' Brimstone deal to 2 hearts
- Change Head of Krampus to 6 charges
I don't get these. Neither item was overpowered the way they were.
Woah, woah, hold the phone, are they saying they made hard mode fun? Megaton!
- Fix Devil Deal exploit with half soul heart
Come on, no one asked for that. Going down to half a soul heart is a massive risk, it should come with a reward!
- Change Lil' Brimstone deal to 2 hearts
- Change Head of Krampus to 6 charges
I don't get these. Neither item was overpowered the way they were.
You can actually have four with the golden fly one, can't remember the name.
I don't see how most of those could compare to the head.
-The dice. That's a given.
-Nail. No. Slight damage up, break rocks, and a heart. Big deal. It's a devil deal usually too so there's that.
-Belial. Yes. I'll go with this since it has a 100% chance to spawn devil deals now I believe.
-Candle. They're even at best. Krampus head can clear a very troublesoom room within seconds, candle you still have to work at it.
-Guppy's head. Not even close. A few flies you can't control that even sometimes end up getting you hurt.
-Tammy's head. No. This item is only good in rare synergies.
-Blank Card. No. Again only good in synergies. You can lug this thing around the whole game and not see a good card to use it on.
Krampus's head was just too good for several reason:
1. Low charge count. So you don't have to really save it for worst case scenarios.
2. Huge damage. It can single handedly oblierate rooms and bosses.
3. 0 cost devil deal.
4. No drawbacks at all. There's no required synergy, there's never a time you can't use it, or any negative aspects at it at all.
This is some bullshit
Lord British
Member
Can confirm that Dark Bum also spawns enemy black spiders.
YianGaruga
Banned
nooooooooo
SerTapTap
Member
For fuck's sake
Welp, one less devil deal that's good.
I await in hopes that Cobalt doesn't realize there's a patch and he gets the beggar.
Haunted
Member
I still haven't closed my Isaac from earlier today so I'm still on the previous patch.
what up you Dark Bum peasants
I kept hoping for a Pyromaniac upgrade in the Suicide King challenge before I realised that you can only get it from a treasure room. ;_; Not sure how to ever beat that fucking thing.
what up you Dark Bum peasants
Honestly, it's more in line with other bums now.
I kept hoping for a Pyromaniac upgrade in the Suicide King challenge before I realised that you can only get it from a treasure room. ;_; Not sure how to ever beat that fucking thing.
They're going to have to update this page with falling spiders now too.
http://platinumgod.co.uk/dark-bum
http://platinumgod.co.uk/dark-bum
YianGaruga
Banned
It could also be removed from the normal item pool. And Krampus Head would be fine as well if it was more rare. There was nothing wrong with Lil' Brim. Now it costs as much as a nomral Brim, only weaker and without synergies. Makes no sense.
SerTapTap
Member
Yeah, it's also much harder to use than normal brim too, unless isaac is already using a charge shot of the same or longer windup time. It was fine at 1 heart.
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