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Angelus Errare
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It's not.
How is saying you don't own the thing you bought not bullshit?
Why is this a problem for you? Especially considering that we're actually trying to make this happen?
User 73706
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Go to your digital music retailer of choice, type in "gravity gauntlet" and tell me there isn't a commercial product there available for purchase
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Well everyone agreed to it for one. That's like renting a movie and then being mad you have to bring it back. Most things you buy that are like this, especially software, often state you do not explicitly own it, you are merely purchasing a lifetime license, but one which can be revoked at the creators discretion. You might not like it but you agreed to it when you put money down so that's the way it is. A lot of people dislike this state of affairs but I have yet to see it come up as a problem except in rare circumstances.
That's not quite true. The EULA has been savaged in court before. That's why all these newer agreements have class-action lawsuit language now.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
That's true. So from what I understand the newer agreements now state you're waiving your right to pursue a class action suit when you agree to their terms right? Figures. And I did actually think of a circumstance that this has been a huge problem for, which is music. I remember reading something about iTunes getting sued when they still had DRM on every song for locking a ton of people whose computers crashed out of their music.
I disagree. For example, I might not like the way the steam ecosystem works, but if I want the best chance at selling my game I'll work inside it.
Angelus Errare
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Because you can't own the code and there not be far standing issues that go with that.
I "bought" my iPhone but I don't own iOS. Welcome to software. When you release your game, you'll see. Unless you plan to open source that bad boy, if so then more power to you. But somehow I doubt you're going to open source your game, the code, the audio, and everything else. If you don't, then the people who will eventually buy it don't really "own" it. You've merely given them a license. But the idea of consumers being able to "own" the software they purchased has far reaching implications that most people haven't thought of. There's a happy median that exists and it works very well.
Ownership denotes one can do with what they like, if you say consumers "own" the software they purchase then you're saying they can do with the software what they like to include redistributing that software modified or otherwise and charging for it. Which means developers also have to release their source code. If one follows the logical progression, they should come to the conclusion fairly quickly how that's a bad thing.
What most of you are really arguing for are just more lax licensing agreements allowing you to resale the software (again the medium it comes on supersedes any licensing that doesn't allow you to do so since you "own" the medium anyways) and have conflated that with ownership. When it comes to digital distribution...I say give up on the delusion of being able to resell your software. It's probably never going to happen, and if it does, expect your margins to not be very high as the developers are definitely going to want a cut and because you're on a digital platform dealing with keys...them getting a cut isn't too hard if it does happen.
Not everything should be open source, and I say this as a big proponent of open source software.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Could always use Origin instead.
...oh wait you said you wanted your game to sell.
I will say that it is true Steam has created a power vacuum of sorts. The compromise I see most often is with stuff like the Humble Indie bundles which often give you a steam code along with the actual game client so even if for some reason Steam takes it all away you still have a standalone client. I pretty much agree with what Angelus is saying here, I don't have any issue with not truly "owning" the software I buy.
Prototype Viktor
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Rock* just trolling with this PC GTA5 release
You really going to use "nigga my mixtape dropped" as a argument rebuttal?
Prototype Viktor
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only 1 song over 10 minutes long? get out of here!
User 73706
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its fire tho
and it's part of the same overall universe, which was my point. The series has been commercially recognized in some fashion already, is what I'm saying
*Listens to Harden Hellfire* Where is teh DJ Klue drop?
Angelus Errare
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Not shocking, a girl in my sociology class proposed this very thing back in 2007, teacher disagreed.
Shit stings man. T_T
Mrs. Manky
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In other words, Carlton just as likely to be depressed as Jazzy. #nublack is no protection.
Remember when Carlton thought those cops were just doing their job, but Will knew they were dirty?
Angelus Errare
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Professor Beef
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That was a good explanation for EULA and ownership, Angelus. I never could understand the arguments in some of those threads.
He would've stopped them. ;(
Why this girl out here being proud about her funk? Then throwing race into it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BGTNBrihIhI#t=269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BGTNBrihIhI#t=269
MikeBreezy92
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You know an episode of fresh Prince was deep when the credits rolled and everything was quiet.
always on point
Vermillion
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What kind of fetishes does Demi have?
Angelus Errare
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Why this girl out here being proud about her funk? Then throwing race into it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BGTNBrihIhI#t=269
Big Sean really dodged a bullet with this girl. Watching that video...her face is all kinds of fucked up, and she doesn't seem to be all the way there.
Edit: watched the entire thing.
Nah...she has to go.
Showering every day is not a "white people" thing. This chick...nah....naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
The Faceless Master
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Why this girl out here being proud about her funk? Then throwing race into it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BGTNBrihIhI#t=269
hahahah oh what?
i will shower 3-4-5 times a day if i feel like i need it. summer is no joke.
Angelus Errare
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If by lotion you mean Shea or cocoa butter. Word.
Lotion is like putting flavored water on your skin.
Face it Tiger..
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Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I never know what the get with Shea or cocoa butter but I've heard people recommend it before. I know next to nothing about skincare, never really pay attention to it except in the winter when my skin gets double fucked dry by hot showers and the hot compressed air blowing out of vents.
yall trying to get this thread closed
TheBlackMarvel
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Are you mentally prepared for the answer to that question?
So far every Asian restaurant I've gone to seems like they way overpriced until they bring out enough food for a family of four.
It's not bad, just really... odd. And specific.
Angelus Errare
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And the thing is the house was only like what? 7% of his worth? Dudes on gaming side stay mad salty. Probably all living at home with their mom and dad in their basement and shit....but they got that new Amiibo tho!
Honestly any shea/cocoa butter will do so much more for your skin than any lotion will.
She seem kind of spacy, wasn't there some rumors that she like to throw shit?
Georgia Humdity is no joke, air be so thick you can choke on it
Notch? Dude is set for life, let a player play.
I remember the first time I went to Augusta. Came out of that airport smelling pine tar and it felt like I was under 3x earth gravity.
Right.
Angelus Errare
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Wouldn't shock me considering her showering habits.
And unfortunately because this is America, this chick is the spokesperson for all black people now, so now add "niggers don't shower" to the list of nonsense.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Guy can't even throw a fucking house party without console warriors trying to cut in
The one time I went to St. Augustine Florida, shit was worse.
Her last name is Rivera, so Beef people's going to catch some shit too.
Young Magus
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Damn y'all taking me back. Fresh Prince had some good serious episodes.
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DMC HD on sale @ PSN, going to get it but heard tons and tons of shit bout 2. No game can be that bad right, right?
Sawata, Skullomania and Cody (voted again in another browser because hanging chads, etc) If Kurosawa was an option....woooo
DMC2 is one of the biggest dropped balls in gaming history.
Lucky Slayven.
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