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The Black Culture Thread |OT11| In This Salon, Everyone Gets A Perm
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Face it Tiger..
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sweet Queen, he's with his Day 0 broad.
press your chill button.
and the fact that Kenny signed with Reebok as soon as he could is telling.
NipplesAndToes23
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What are you referring to? I only started to really listen to him when To Pimp a Butterfly came out.
Also, I found my black geek bae.
Lawd!
Wait, is Fury Road seriously an all white cast? Because if it is then lol at the people saying it's a feminist movie.
FeenixRising
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Nah... I believe Zoe Kravitz is in it. That's all I have though
Discotheque
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zoe kravitz and also the youngest bride didn't look white either.
FeenixRising
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Meh... Idk I ain't see it. I just knew Zoe was in it due to the amount of thirst in his thread when the movie dropped
in what way did Kendrick sell out
I'm interested, elaborate if you don't mind.
Face it Tiger..
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From some people I get feeling that Kenny (& TPAB by extension) was supposed to be a page turner if you will
and end to commercialism, like fuck name brands.
just you, your locs & your wits.
but Kendrick signing to Reebok threw that all away for them.
EDIT: Honestly if I had a name brand that's what I would call it: You, Your locs and your wit..
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
He got popular and made an album he wanted to make, his way.
I knew that the moment people found out TPAB wasn't GKMC 2, some would be outraged.
That being said there is some legitimate criticism for Kendrick as some of the things he has said fly a little too close to the nublack sun for my liking.
Professor Beef
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gosh it almost sounds like a musician wanted to be a success
What are you referring to? I only started to really listen to him when To Pimp a Butterfly came out.
Also, I found my black geek bae.
Lawd!
I looked at the second video first and thought it was nicki minaj.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
There's one biracial none background character.
I'm not getting into any feminist debate but the Mad Max name was simply used to get the movie green lit. Women run that shit.
Seriously the best movie I've seen in theaters since the og Matrix and that's the highest compliment I can give to any film.
They combined escort, follow, and backtracking missions into a single piece of media and made it work well.
The story isn't deep but they make up for it with none stop action.
Movie made me wish I had kids so I could watch their little brains melt from pure awesomeness.
Black Republican
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damn, yall making me wanna go see mad max, it must be the best damn action film in a long ass time.............which is pretty sad actually
Mrs. Manky
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Either:
A) That 14% is not black.
or
B) The black people in that 14% are the "good ones".
In any case, fuck the people who wrote that note.
Struck a nerve I see.
My problem with Kendrick is that he wants to put out these "real nigga" albums and put on this "real nigga" persona. He has the balls to position himself as a critical force in Hip Hop. But then the second he gets his brand to a certain level he's doing commercials about his life and revolution being a green-ass pair of Reeboks. And now he's doing songs with Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, the biggest "fuck integrity, just give me my paper" artist in music right now.
Look, ain't nothing wrong with using your brand to make money. But when you compromise your own image in the pursuit in that paper...then shit, you're just wack. For all his fucking talking, Kendrick really ain't no better than them niggas using ghostwriters that he wants to complain about. It's all about using your brand to make money, right?
I'm all for being proud to be black, but I understand that when I have babies with a white man, that my baby's black 'features' will go away.
She's super cute.
What are you referring to? I only started to really listen to him when To Pimp a Butterfly came out.
Also, I found my black geek bae.
Lawd!
She's super cute.
Who does this woman look like to ya'll? http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/just-another-birthday-for-detroit-area-woman-her-116th/ar-BBkakBB
just cause he trying to get his money up doesn't mean he's compromising his image/values. this america you gotta have money behind you to do anything. rap is a business man. the second his financial muscle runs out will be the second his voice stops being heard. all that peripheral bullshit affords him the ability to make a
turd like
Totally not popping in to comment on something old, pardon me guys:
...you're from Bed-Stuy? Damn, I'm literally right on the border between it and Crown Heights. My parents and I used to live on Fulton right between Nostrand and Brooklyn Ave, but that was before the rest of my siblings were born and we moved.
This article is so fucking wild for me to read by the way. The rapid pace at which all these faces and places I've known for 20+ years are getting displaced in this portion of Brooklyn once known as "undesirable" and given all kinds of nicknames back in the day is fascinating and terrifying at the same time. I just don't want to be put in the situation where when I can finally step out and get my own shit going fully, I won't be able to live in the place I truly consider home just because of how crazy the demographic switching and catering to a more affluent market makes things.
...you're from Bed-Stuy? Damn, I'm literally right on the border between it and Crown Heights. My parents and I used to live on Fulton right between Nostrand and Brooklyn Ave, but that was before the rest of my siblings were born and we moved.
This article is so fucking wild for me to read by the way. The rapid pace at which all these faces and places I've known for 20+ years are getting displaced in this portion of Brooklyn once known as "undesirable" and given all kinds of nicknames back in the day is fascinating and terrifying at the same time. I just don't want to be put in the situation where when I can finally step out and get my own shit going fully, I won't be able to live in the place I truly consider home just because of how crazy the demographic switching and catering to a more affluent market makes things.
just cause he trying to get his money up doesn't mean he's compromising his image/values. this america you gotta have money behind you to do anything. rap is a business man. the second his financial muscle runs out will be the second his voice stops being heard. all that peripheral bullshit affords him the ability to make aTPABturd like
That's exactly what it means.
Shit, not even Drake's so blatantly played himself for a damn shoe.
Mrs. Manky
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I have had multiple people say how much my son looks like his father. Even our black dentist. But that kinky hair? No one can deny that isn't my genetic gift to my child.
Kid Kamikaze10
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I liked TPAB but...
All of this is right. Promotional consistency improves the "brand".
And Kendrick fucked that up. He's making money, but his long term prospect probably aren't as strong as he thinks it is.
All of this is right. Promotional consistency improves the "brand".
And Kendrick fucked that up. He's making money, but his long term prospect probably aren't as strong as he thinks it is.
FeenixRising
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You have to do whatever you can to make money as a rapper. Take Nas for an example... dude was preaching the whole "I'll never sell poison to my community" stuff until Kelis and the IRS performed a 2 piece combo plus biscuit and drink on him.
Now he's the official spokesperson for Hennessy.
Though he is winning these days, dude was an early investor in Uber-rival Lyft and now that shit is worth about 2 billion. Nowhere near the 40 million Uber is worth, but it's more money than most rappers will ever see.
Now he's the official spokesperson for Hennessy.
Though he is winning these days, dude was an early investor in Uber-rival Lyft and now that shit is worth about 2 billion. Nowhere near the 40 million Uber is worth, but it's more money than most rappers will ever see.
^ exactly. that starving suffering artist shit is for the birds.
We see ut completely different then.
also Drake never had any integrity to begin with cause he wasnt ever about shit other than the dollar from day 1
We see ut completely different then.
also Drake never had any integrity to begin with cause he wasnt ever about shit other than the dollar from day 1
bobby smurda only real dude in the game
CountBlack
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fuckin sellout smh
NipplesAndToes23
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I can't agree with that. I can't put aside my morals and integrity for some change. If I do, please slap the shit out of me.
He didn't. TPAB isn't "nu black" at all, and the complexities of what Kendrick is trying to say is disrespected by comparing it to the likes of Raven Symone or Pharrell's words.
Unless something happened outside of his most recent album, in which case, I wouldn't know about it.
Edit: oh, commercialization.
Prototype Viktor
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That movie where Tyler the creator, Syd the kid and the Asian guy from N.E.R.D try and sell drugs they get stuck with?
Kid Kamikaze10
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At some point for artists, it becomes money vs message.
Very few are lucky to be able to get money while remaining true to their message, and many never reach the point where the choice needs to be made.
In the end, one is a clear necessity while the other isn't. Problem is, the necessity continues the system/status quo in place while the other is an attempt to break it.
As a writer myself, I'm willing to make some money, but if I can maintain even a middle class livelihood, that's pretty much it. I don't care to have millions; just a decent ideas and some ideas and messages to share. Then again, that thinking never gets anyone famous.
ChamplooJones
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I still can't believe Kenny did a song with T-Swift. That was a real :dahell: moment for me.
FeenixRising
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In the situation I'm fighting out of right now, shiiiit.... Imma let Steve Harvey tell it.
Face it Tiger..
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Professor Beef
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If you're in the music business, 90% of the time it's gonna be for financial reasons. The people who had a "message" only make that seem successful because the song was marketable. Guarantee if you want to make music to make a statement but your song sounds like something IceJJFish would pass on, then that message will get thrown in the bushes.
That being said, let Kendrick make his money. He's no more a sellout than any other successful rapper in the game, since rap has been about selling out for decades. Or has everyone already forgotten about My Adidas?
That being said, let Kendrick make his money. He's no more a sellout than any other successful rapper in the game, since rap has been about selling out for decades. Or has everyone already forgotten about My Adidas?
Kid Kamikaze10
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The plight of the conscious rapper. Far too many have trash flows/productions.
Kid Kamikaze10
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I see his point. As much as integrity matters and such, the US makes poverty hell on earth.
I can talk about messages all I want, but struggling just to find a meal or shelter, etc., will beat that out real quick. It scars people, even at a young age. Puts money and capital on a pedestal.
Get that outta here. Kendrick made 1 million from just one day's worth of streaming on Spotify alone.
The idea that Kendrick HAS to sell out in order to not be struggling is some real BS.
Fuckin tru. That's the reality of the game atm, you can rap, but the real money is elsewhere. That's why dudes like Diddy can laugh it up.
Let Kendrick do what he's doing, don't even try to act like you don't know why.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Oh, I was just adding to Feenix's point, not Kendrick. Definitely not defending Kendrick on him selling out when he already made it.
I'll call him a sellout when his next record features T swift, Selena Gomez, and Bruno Mars on all his hooks. Till then get outta here with that selling out bs. Let the dude do him. If it hasn't affected the music he's actually making and giving to the world, I couldnt care less if he did a song with T Swift.
I mean, if we're going on this metric, then almost every hip hop artist that people consider 'real' are all sellouts too.
I mean, if we're going on this metric, then almost every hip hop artist that people consider 'real' are all sellouts too.
A rapper builds his image around his realness, and then literally peddles that realness into a shoe.
Have you seen the commercial? It was almost as tone deaf as Jay Z thinking he was saving the world with a music streaming app.
Not to mention, he's basically guilty of a different version of the same type of shit he spent that last album criticizing. Except Kendrick's one of those niggas who thinks his talent makes him the exception. But what does talent have to do with anything?
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